1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

The meaning of "all reasonable steps" will depend on whether the player is from a big club, and/or is a star player,  and/or is a "good bloke who wouldn't have meant that".

More long winded court cases coming up, involving lawyers hijacking a sporting tribunal and turning it into a criminal trial, quibbling over the meaning of "all", "reasonable" and "steps", until the tribunal members' heads are spinning and they don't know where they are or time it is, or indeed their own names.

Exactly.

Gotta remember it was Gus' fault for deviating too somehow.

"All reasonable steps" - christ on a bike

I hate the AFL more than I hate Collingwood

4 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Exactly.

Gotta remember it was Gus' fault for deviating too somehow.

"All reasonable steps" - christ on a bike

I hate the AFL more than I hate Collingwood

This is the narrative that annoys me the most. The ‘changing lanes’ argument. Somehow the guy who had disposed of the ball, not expecting contact, following through his regular kicking action was responsible for the contact. Let it sink it. Once it does, you will see how corrupt the AFL is. 

The AFL make me sick, just utterly vomitous stuff 🤮 just watch the first person who does the same thing get 6 weeks. MAYNARD IS STILL A HATED PLAYER  and will always be remembered for his low act!

On 30/09/2023 at 18:02, Supreme_Demon said:

Seeing that dog [censored] Brayden "the Thug" Maynard win a Premiership Medallion is an absolute disgrace!

I hope someone accidentally runs that piece of slime over with a truck!

I hate that [censored] [censored] more than any other player in the AFL now! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

He's no dog. Dogs are great. Friendly, funny and good company. Smart too. Maynard is none of those things.

Maynard is a maggot. Can we agree?

Edited December 15, 20231 yr by pitmaster

On 29/09/2023 at 22:19, Little Goffy said:

Two points;

1. It is important to try to keep the idea of protecting the head alive.

2. It is a higher priority to ensure that Maynard doesn't breed.

So there are other higher (lower?) priorities than knocking him out.

 

Perhaps a double of what Steve Silvagni copped many years ago (ruptured [censored]) would serve your purpose.

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

We will never know what impact that hit on Gus made to our over all team dynamics.

The closest summation you can make as to what sort of impact Gus might have made in that game would be his previous finals games for the club.

Which to say the least have been fairly impactful to our end results.

3rd best GF day 20 plus possessions crucial slips catch mark and goal at an important moment in the 3rd quarter.

His replacement has 2 possessions for 3.5 quarters of football, huge imapct on the game.

Gus is a big game player. He smashed the 21 granny and on that basis losing him was a huge factor in losing against Pies. Also the inexperienced Laurie as the sub was not a good selection IMHO.

5 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I didn’t think it was possible to hate and despise Collingwood any more than I already hated and despised them, before September 2023

It is Possible….

I am sure they will keep surprising us, there will never be enough hate towards that mob.

23 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Maynard is a maggot. Can we agree?

no, that's the umpires

5 hours ago, Deebauched said:

I would love to audit the AFL. Millions will have vanished into the ether. Tricky Gil learned everything from his dodgy predecessor.

The media have constantly watched his back and  celebrated him as a great administrator.  F...off.

Still not sure i will be tuning in next year. The disgusting behaviour of the media and AFL towards Brayshaw/MFC after the Maynard incident will linger for many years.

True. My god, these people. Demetriou showed his true colours when he left the game. Everything he touched (dodgy colleges etc) turned to [censored]. No doubt he's still lolling by the pool in some mansion somewhere. What were his qualifications? From memory, maybe an ex primary school teacher? Not even a decent conman.

If the AFL were serious they would bring back unduly rough play. Captures any weird incident like a flying cannonball smother that isn't otherwise deemed reportable. No room for technicalities.

1 hour ago, pitmaster said:

Perhaps a double of what Steve Silvagni copped many years ago (ruptured [censored]) would serve your purpose.

In Maynard's case that would also put him into concussion protocols.

50 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

In Maynard's case that would also put him into concussion protocols.

Yeah but to have concussion you need to have some Grey Matter! 

7 hours ago, loges said:

Pretty sure you will find plenty of people who feel the same way Deev 

I am still absolutely furious about the whole Maynard incidence. The fact I am married to a Pies supporter only makes it worse. Mind you - he knows to stay in my good books not to bring it up. I have already decided not to go to any games against Collingwood next season. 

1 hour ago, Wrecker46 said:

If the AFL were serious

I think we already have the answer to that

3 hours ago, Brownie said:

"All reasonable steps" - christ on a bike

They could make it easy and just say "the head is sacrosanct", but I think that may have been tried and somehow found wanting (although not sure how).

I just had channel 7 news on for the first time in a decade.  What do I see?  The thug coming on to talk about his mysterious illness.  I keep the channel on 7 despite my revulsion.  The mystery illness he lives with is OCD.  He explained his distress at overthinking and needing to repeatedly check he has locked his door.  Ok mate, but lets put Angus on and let him explain the ins and outs of his concussion experiences and what he experienced in September because of said thug.

 

2 minutes ago, Deebymistake said:

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 20231 yr by Deebymistake
Duplicate post!

So Maynard couldn't help it. IT'S NOT HIS FAULT!

On 14/12/2023 at 17:52, Rocknroll said:

Let's drop this during the first cricket test.  Because we are a bunch of cowards

So terribly predictable, both the timing and the [censored] covering.

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

The AFL make me sick, just utterly vomitous stuff 🤮 just watch the first person who does the same thing get 6 weeks. MAYNARD IS STILL A HATED PLAYER  and will always be remembered for his low act!

Well we certainly agree on that.

On 14/12/2023 at 18:55, Redleg said:

We knew this was coming, when they let him off.

Now as an eternal pessimist, I can see the first club affected will be the Dees.

Pathetic, but totally predictable. The AFL treat us like utter fools 

1 hour ago, Deebymistake said:

The thug coming on to talk about his mysterious illness.  I keep the channel on 7 despite my revulsion.  The mystery illness he lives with is OCD.  He explained his distress at overthinking and needing to repeatedly check he has locked his door.

 

Well, if I was constantly surrounded by Collingwood filth, I'd be constantly and repeatedly checking my door was locked too.

 

Seriously though, how does repeatedly checking your door is locked actually count as OCD?  I do that sort of thing, but I'd hardly call it OCD.

3 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

If the AFL were serious they would bring back unduly rough play. Captures any weird incident like a flying cannonball smother that isn't otherwise deemed reportable. No room for technicalities.

They had plenty to charge Maynard with, they just lacked the motivation to do so.

7 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Putting the Maynard incident aside, we came out as flat as a pancake for a final, barely went inside 50 and lost the contested possession count by 10 (a key KPI for a final) before the incident occurred. 

Collingwood set the tone before the Maynard incident and it just wasn't our night whichever way one looks at it.

And yet we “only” lost by 7 points.

The entire team was flat, and in fact scared that their friend and teammate initially might have been dead, and then may have remained comatose, for the remainder of the first quarter.  Absolutely and understandably  shell shocked.  
 

They actually did well to out score what was mooted in the media as the greatest team of the year with 6 goals 11 points to 5.4 for the rest of the match.

Even if Angus was not going to have another of his big finals games, he would have inevitably contributed towards at least a couple more goals than did his replacement, and the flat first quarter may have been even a little less flat. 

But, inevitably, the AFL have yet again squibbed at making a genuine statement, which they will feign as soon as a “lesser player from a lesser club” actually does make accidental contact with an opponent’s head. 

It's so funny how they bandy around the expression, "Will now owe a duty of care"... duty of care already exists in the common law, it's not something the AFL can presume to regulate.