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PREGAME: QF vs Collingwood



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2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Noble dropped for Collingwood after 83 straight games.

Hopefully the Pie players are rattled by this, a permanent fixture getting dropped.

Just saying this to a friend.. hopefully pies players are nervous about their spots and over do it 

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There is some good analysis about this game. The following isn't. Don't blame me if you want your five minutes back after reading it. You have been warned. 

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/we-asked-an-ai-bot-to-predict-every-game-of-this-year-s-afl-final-series-20230905-p5e24u.html?fbclid=IwAR2z_f9OgcLEg8H_9v_5i8SxdPQUtQHqWhWk8W7ZYqQwbs95zPwUpSlRzBI

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Demonland has made the difficult decision to not to permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials.

We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

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On a stats level too basic to be mentioned in the Stats thread:

Since round 10 (21 May) Collingwood have played 4 games only against teams in the finals.  They had a good 2 point win against Port in Adelaide and have lost to Melbourne, Carlton and the Lions.

Over the same time frame, Melbourne have played seven games against each of the fnalists (excepting Port) including Carlton twice and have only lost to GWS (somehow) and the conttroversial loss to Carlton.

I reckon that is pretty good form coming into the finals.

 

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9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Noble dropped for Collingwood after 83 straight games.

Hopefully the Pie players are rattled by this, a permanent fixture getting dropped.

 

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Those in the media and general folks thinking the Pies will win are think back to 6 weeks ago when they were untouchable. at that stage they were by far the best team in it

can they flick the switch? who knows. but it’s bloody hard to change form and switch on from a low base

this is why i’m quietly confident whilst crapping my dacks at the same time

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19 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Noble dropped for who?

changing up their backline at this stage is a good sign for us

Moore, Murphy and McReery coming in one would assume. 

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37 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

In the words of Iggy Pop “gimme danger”. 

But it’s been more common over the last few years, as digital consoles have made it easier. I was moved to have a look at some of the previous performances and as well as PK, Sting, Vance Joy and the The Living End all played live. A couple of their songs used “track” - a phantom keyboard or string part here and there, but that would be the case with their usual live shows too. 

As for Kiss, they’ll certainly have some modern augmentation, as they’ve been leaning on it more and more in recent years. 
 

The oscillation between “game chat” and “KISS chat” on this thread has been very funny. It’s helped the nerves! 

Me and Iggy pop are built differently. I feel like you are asking to sound terrible by going down the live route. No one represents themselves as well as possible in these situations playing live and it’s through no fault of their own. You get a bit of wind and you are doomed. Which is only one of a million ways it can fall apart. I blame the afl. Like I do with most things.


This two weeks has been horrible. I hate the bye and I hate Collingwood more. I feel like I’m pacing around unable to concentrate on anything. Losing this game would hurt more than most to state the bleeding obvious. I am living with a high level of underlying anxiety for the next month it seems. Sometimes I miss sucking as a football team. No expectations had its perks. Then I think how much it will suck when I no longer get to watch max, Clarry, trac, Gus, may etc and I quickly snap out of it.

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6 hours ago, monoccular said:

Pity the AFL are so tight that, like the score review system, they won’t expend a few dollars to provide roaming mikes to the questioners at these press conferences.  I guess directors’ bonuses and overseas junkets are a higher priority.

The types of questions asked can be highly specific, leading thoughts and matters not considered. It is a great shame that in the coaches' responses, one has to interpret what the original question might have been - because you cannot hear the question in full, in part and sometimes, not hear it at all. 

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49 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

In the words of Iggy Pop “gimme danger”. 

But it’s been more common over the last few years, as digital consoles have made it easier. I was moved to have a look at some of the previous performances and as well as PK, Sting, Vance Joy and the The Living End all played live. A couple of their songs used “track” - a phantom keyboard or string part here and there, but that would be the case with their usual live shows too. 

As for Kiss, they’ll certainly have some modern augmentation, as they’ve been leaning on it more and more in recent years. 
 

The oscillation between “game chat” and “KISS chat” on this thread has been very funny. It’s helped the nerves! 

You forgot the best in the past few years...Lionel Richie

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11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sheesh brutal call on Noble.

He's usually the one setting them up off half back with his speed and kicking.

100% correct. No Daicos and Noble out limits their run and carry capabilities and precision kicking. Our good luck I say.

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16 minutes ago, von said:

This two weeks has been horrible. I hate the bye and I hate Collingwood more. I feel like I’m pacing around unable to concentrate on anything. Losing this game would hurt more than most to state the bleeding obviou

I know the feeling. The thought of losing and having to see all their sneering toothless grins after the game is making me sick. What's worse is that i am staying the night at a mates house who is a Collingwood supporter, and he is also going to the game.  Fortunately we have an unspoken gentlemen's agreement not to hang it on each other after a game. His wife, who doesn't follow footy at all, is not so discreet. It won't be pretty.

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My guess:

Tmac in.

Smith in the starting 22.

Laurie on the bench

 

The other possibility i can see is hibberd comes in for turner.

Or perhaps Salem given he had not found his best form.

That said I really can't see salo not being selected.

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6 minutes ago, He de mon said:

I know the feeling. The thought of losing and having to see all their sneering toothless grins after the game is making me sick. What's worse is that i am staying the night at a mates house who is a Collingwood supporter, and he is also going to the game.  Fortunately we have an unspoken gentlemen's agreement not to hang it on each other after a game. His wife, who doesn't follow footy at all, is not so discreet. It won't be pretty.

Probably better off staying in a cheap motel for the night.

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1 minute ago, Deebauched said:

Probably better off staying in a cheap motel for the night.

Yeah, but we couldn't get someone to look after the dogs, and his house is dog friendly. It will be sweet if we win though.

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7 minutes ago, binman said:

My guess:

Tmac in.

Smith in the starting 22.

Laurie on the bench

 

The other possibility i can see is hibberd comes in for turner.

Or perhaps Salem given he had not found his best form.

That said I really can't see salo not being selected.

After his first quarter in 2021 I decree that Salem should never be dropped. 

The full back was a walking cripple if I remember correctly .

They would likely have confronted a mountain too high to climb without Salo.

He stays

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