NON-MFC: Rd 23 2023

[leave it to deever 17,598]

Sick it up Crows fans.

I recall a dob act not paid a couple of years ago.

Karma's a ditch 

[dees189227 12,453]

Gee poor Jack Ziebell. In hospital because some boofheads thought they'd be tough & push him onto the road then punched him in the face then kicked him.

Horrific. Will likely need facial surgery. 

Not how you wanted to celebrate your final game 

[whatwhat say what 23,624]

absolutely appalling stuff re ziebell

[Deebauched 1,220]

7 hours ago, Glorious Day said:

1991? Gosh, that’s a 32 year old grudge 😂

What happened? I cant remember back that far. I know Fitzroy had a decent side and almost made into a Granny.

[Deebauched 1,220]

15 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Gee poor Jack Ziebell. In hospital because some boofheads thought they'd be tough & push him onto the road then punched him in the face then kicked him.

Horrific. Will likely need facial surgery. 

Not how you wanted to celebrate your final game 

I leased factory space behind Sunglass Hut on Chapel st in the 90's.  Ok during the day but a no go strip at night. Alot of fights behind Chapel after midnight including hit and runs and some bashing/knife deaths. Cops didnt like going there and double parking.  Loads of drunk drivers on a relatively narrow street. Its also on the yarra giving crims quick acess to the North.

 

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,346]

11 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Longmire said Papley had tightness in his hamstring. Lets hope it keeps him out next week.

If the Swans are guaranteed to make finals (with a Dogs loss next week) then you’d imagine they’d rest Papley for our game.

If Bulldogs win, and Sydney need to win to make certain of finals, then they might risk him.

Then again, if he’s torn his hammy he’ll obviously miss next week and he’ll more than a handy out.

[Little Goffy 14,791]

Nevermind Adelaide - one of either the Western Bulldogs or GWS will miss out on finals because Sydney was given a win in a clear error that didn't even follow basic procedure.

[Redleg 42,039]

2 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Nevermind Adelaide - one of either the Western Bulldogs or GWS will miss out on finals because Sydney was given a win in a clear error that didn't even follow basic procedure.

But they did follow procedure.

Goal Umpire was certain it touched post and therefore he didn’t request review.

That is the current procedure.

It’s a mistake, not a breach of procedure.

[BDA 23,031]

after watching the Swans fade out last night gives me confidence for next week. We are in better condition than them and will be favourites to beat them.

[gregdemon 628]

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

But they did follow procedure.

Goal Umpire was certain it touched post and therefore he didn’t request review.

That is the current procedure.

It’s a mistake, not a breach of procedure.

Yes a mistake  but a shocking one   must change procedure/  Imagine a grand final being decided by that    

[gregdemon 628]

43 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Sick it up Crows fans.

I recall a dob act not paid a couple of years ago.

Karma's a ditch 

You mean when deliberate out of bounds not paid  when we lost by a point.  Still not over that one     Umpires saw it and were influenced by crows crowd not to pay Boo !!

[sue 9,233]

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

But they did follow procedure.

Goal Umpire was certain it touched post and therefore he didn’t request review.

That is the current procedure.

It’s a mistake, not a breach of procedure.

It's ironical that points aren't reviewed in the same way that goals are before play recommences. Understandable of course given the lack of time after a point is awarded before play resumes compared to a centre bounce.  But both goals reviewed into points and points into goals can decide a match.   Perhaps that's an argument to review nothing and go with umps' call. 

Maybe it would be cheaper to employ 4 goal umpires than get reliable technology.    4 goal umps, one at each gaol post would be in a good position except for deciding whether a ball is out of bounds or a point.  The boundary umps can help decide that as they do now.  Don't ask me what to do if the 2 goal umps disagree!

[Jjrogan 1,466]

44 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

What happened? I cant remember back that far. I know Fitzroy had a decent side and almost made into a Granny.

Game in Adelaide where the Crows got 4 free kicks in the last 2 minutes, including the winning kick and stole the game from the Roy boys. 

 

Memorable for Peter McKenna's commentary as much as anything else. This is Murder!  Absolute Murder!

[layzie 34,374]

7 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

Game in Adelaide where the Crows got 4 free kicks in the last 2 minutes, including the winning kick and stole the game from the Roy boys. 

 

Memorable for Peter McKenna's commentary as much as anything else. This is Murder!  Absolute Murder!

And it was indeed, murder!

[Deebauched 1,220]

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

And it was indeed, murder!

Makes yesterdays controversial end highly justified.  Karma!

What were those umpires thinking?

Peter McKenna didnt hold back his disgust unlike the corporate cowards in todays  commentary box.

Gerald Healy is the worst of them. AFL apologist start to finish.

[Redleg 42,039]

37 minutes ago, gregdemon said:

Yes a mistake  but a shocking one   must change procedure/  Imagine a grand final being decided by that    

Actually a mistake that us sitting at home watching replays can pick up.

Now let’s put ourselves in that goal umpire’s position.

One minute to go, deafening noise as the ball approaches the goals, 2-3 desperate Swans players jumping for the ball, obscuring his view of the ball, while he must keep back out of their way. All this happening quickly. He hears a sound of post being hit, it was a Swans player’s hand, that he wouldn’t see, then sees the ball spinning as though it hit the post. Another Swan yelling at him and pointing to the post and he makes a very innocent mistake.

This is certainly not the first such mistake made by an official. Look at that ridiculous penalty to Sweden against the Matildas. Even with replays VAR. 

Last week’s soft call was another mistake which has cost us probably 2nd place.

It’s up to the AFL to improve officiating wherever possible.

They haven’t even got a GM of Footy yet nearly 2 years after Scott left and Gil is still hanging around like a bad smell, even though his successor has been appointed.

[old55 23,847]

10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Looks like the ball hit the post from that pic you’ve provided.

I agree, in that top image there is no clear evidence that the ball misses the post. 

There is clear air between ball and post in the second front on image, but there is no clear air in the image from the side where the ball is behind the post.  If you zoom in there is yellow pixelation all the way to the post.

The goal umpire should absolutely have called for a review given the state of the game and the closeness of the call, but if those two pictures were the evidence then I could not have over-turned his call.

[DaveyJones'sLocker 647]

Gill says it would have been overturned on review. I find that extremely interesting considering the result of last weeks review. 

[ElDiablo14 5,053]

4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Actually a mistake that us sitting at home watching replays can pick up.

Now let’s put ourselves in that goal umpire’s position.

One minute to go, deafening noise as the ball approaches the goals, 2-3 desperate Swans players jumping for the ball, obscuring his view of the ball, while he must keep back out of their way. All this happening quickly. He hears a sound of post being hit, it was a Swans player’s hand, that he wouldn’t see, then sees the ball spinning as though it hit the post. Another Swan yelling at him and pointing to the post and he makes a very innocent mistake.

This is certainly not the first such mistake made by an official. Look at that ridiculous penalty to Sweden against the Matildas. Even with replays VAR. 

Last week’s soft call was another mistake which has cost us probably 2nd place.

It’s up to the AFL to improve officiating wherever possible.

They haven’t even got a GM of Footy yet nearly 2 years after Scott left and Gil is still hanging around like a bad smell, even though his successor has been appointed.

That goal umpire needs to go to Specsavers. Regardless of any "sounds" you can't miss the huge gap between the ball and the post.

As it has been pointed out before, goal umpires should be instructed that if they have any reasonable doubt it is a must to call for ARC review.

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,606]

26 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

Game in Adelaide where the Crows got 4 free kicks in the last 2 minutes, including the winning kick and stole the game from the Roy boys. 

 

Memorable for Peter McKenna's commentary as much as anything else. This is Murder!  Absolute Murder!

Jesus that was horrendous, 2 ducks, a push in the back that wasn’t there and the last was the worst of the lot.. 

[BDA 23,031]

I think it’s a good example of an AFL rule thats unnecessarily complicated. If the ball goes between the posts it’s a goal. Simples. Removes the guesswork. 

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If the Swans are guaranteed to make finals (with a Dogs loss next week) then you’d imagine they’d rest Papley for our game.

If Bulldogs win, and Sydney need to win to make certain of finals, then they might risk him.

Then again, if he’s torn his hammy he’ll obviously miss next week and he’ll more than a handy out.

What would you rather.

1 -- Swans have to win to play finals

2---Swans have to win for a home final

3---Swan free hit game does not matter

[hardtack 10,978]

13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Actually a mistake that us sitting at home watching replays can pick up.

Now let’s put ourselves in that goal umpire’s position.

One minute to go, deafening noise as the ball approaches the goals, 2-3 desperate Swans players jumping for the ball, obscuring his view of the ball, while he must keep back out of their way. All this happening quickly. He hears a sound of post being hit, it was a Swans player’s hand, that he wouldn’t see, then sees the ball spinning as though it hit the post. Another Swan yelling at him and pointing to the post and he makes a very innocent mistake.

This is certainly not the first such mistake made by an official. Look at that ridiculous penalty to Sweden against the Matildas. Even with replays VAR. 

Last week’s soft call was another mistake which has cost us probably 2nd place.

It’s up to the AFL to improve officiating wherever possible.

They haven’t even got a GM of Footy yet nearly 2 years after Scott left and Gil is still hanging around like a bad smell, even though his successor has been appointed.

Agree with all of that, but, and I’m probably wrong, I thought all goals were reviewed before the centre bounce to restart play took place… in which case, how could that not have been picked up? It beggars belief!

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

Shock horror AFL call mistake.

 

 

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,305]

2 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Agree with all of that, but, and I’m probably wrong, I thought all goals were reviewed before the centre bounce to restart play took place… in which case, how could that not have been picked up? It beggars belief!

Because it was called a behind, as a result it doesn't get reviewed.