PREGAME: Rd 20 vs Richmond

[DubDee 24,355]

48 minutes ago, IRW said:

Want to bet?

Dee's three in a row makes a loss more likely would be their thinking

very happy to take the bet

40pt+ win coming up

[Smokey 4,345]

I've just pivoted here from the "What they're saying at Punt Rd" thread.

Please, PLEASE boys - put them to the sword by 50+.   

[beelzebub 23,198]

19 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Have no idea if Petty is up to speed or not.

Have to assume he is if we decide to bring him in.

Can't say I'd share that view given his recent outings/form.

Id really like him to get a good solid run in the magoos.

 

[monoccular 17,320]

Just now, beelzebub said:

Can't say I'd share that view given his (Petty) recent outings/form.

Id really like him to get a good solid run in the magoos.

 

I agree. At least one game.  Let’s hope Casey don’t have yet another bye 🙄

[binman 41,951]

3 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I agree. At least one game.  Let’s hope Casey don’t have yet another bye 🙄

We have one, maybe two more byes (if Casey finish top six we get a bye the week of the VFL pre finals wild card round)

[Macca 16,611]

6 hours ago, old55 said:

Look I'm the "beaten up" culprit and I'm guilty of generalising Jack Viney to the entire team. Jack has been monumental across the period Clarrie has been missing and he just looked justifiably spent at the end of the Adelaide game.

I think we need to persist with the attacking move of Petracca forward and that places more load on Jack, although happily this has been mitigated by Angus really stepping up in the midfield - some pretty good depth there, and Kossie playing higher.

I do fear that Richmond's midfield might get a hold of us this week and will be glad to see Clarrie back and Jack get a break when it's possible.

Other better judges think I'm jumping at shadows, let's hope so. "Happy to be wrong" 😀

If the MC's thinking is '4th' then that thinking can permeate through to the players

We can drop 2 games and still finish 4th but we also may not want to put pressure on ourselves this far out

Beat Richmond and the rest of it is on our terms (to a large degree)

We could get to 3rd but 2nd would require a lot to happen in our favour including us winning out

 

Edited July 26, 2023 by Macca

[layzie 32,819]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

very happy to take the bet

40pt+ win coming up

*Witness signature*

[IRW 1,377]

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

very happy to take the bet

40pt+ win coming up

I was referring to Tigers fans re crowd numbers...

I hope for a win  ,we should win.

I doubt 40+ big time

Tempted to take your bet and have  a win win Saturday

[Roost it far 7,398]

53,457

23 point Melbourne win

[beelzebub 23,198]

3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

53,457

23 point Melbourne win

Is that you Biff ??? 

[Roost it far 7,398]

27 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Is that you Biff ??? 

I call my older brother Biff

[jnrmac 19,892]

9 hours ago, IRW said:

When is it that Petty forward has " "worked"?

It's been tried and has  been ok but no way a "lock",yet down back over at least 2 seasons he's been part of a serious backline glue.

Hibberd in would be an idea as well.

They are running out of room down back which is about the only argument for Petty forward 

 

 

When he was used as a defensive fwd  on Tom McCartin and we beat Sydney.

[Demon Dynasty 17,092]

27 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

When he was used as a defensive fwd  on Tom McCartin and we beat Sydney.

Correct and if fully fit might be brought in to play that role on Balta this week.

Ideally he might need a run at Casey though.  Potentially one week (or more?) too early for Harry.

Edited July 26, 2023 by Demon Dynasty

[Demon Dynasty 17,092]

5 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Can't say I'd share that view given his recent outings/form.

Id really like him to get a good solid run in the magoos.

 

That might be needed Bubs but who knows.  Certainly not me lol.

Fingers crossed though as you wouldn't want Petty having the same result as he did last time he came straight back In without any Casey lead in.

Edited July 26, 2023 by Demon Dynasty

[IRW 1,377]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

When he was used as a defensive fwd  on Tom McCartin and we beat Sydney.

Ok good call

[Dee*ceiving 1,630]

Pig's history on dusty and form last week is too good to ignore.  

If Petty is fit I can't see him being left out and it will be in his defensive role. My read is they prefer the Gawn/Grundy ruck/forward combo in finals with BBB and TMac as fall back options. 

Grundy will play another at Casey as planned, will come in to give Max a rest at some point and then we'll trial them together again just before September.

Tomlinson is purely a backup for May, Lever and Petty.  

Based on that I'd guess 

Out; Brown, Tomlinson, Woey

In; Petty, Hibberd, Smith 

Sub; Harmes

[monoccular 17,320]

11 hours ago, old55 said:

Look I'm the "beaten up" culprit and I'm guilty of generalising Jack Viney to the entire team. Jack has been monumental across the period Clarrie has been missing and he just looked justifiably spent at the end of the Adelaide game.

I think we need to persist with the attacking move of Petracca forward and that places more load on Jack, although happily this has been mitigated by Angus really stepping up in the midfield - some pretty good depth there, and Kossie playing higher.

I do fear that Richmond's midfield might get a hold of us this week and will be glad to see Clarrie back and Jack get a break when it's possible.

Other better judges think I'm jumping at shadows, let's hope so. "Happy to be wrong" 😀

I don't think anybody underestimates Jack Vineythese days - he has been immense in covering for Clarrie's absence.

But I think there are still some to fail to recognise Angus' contributions particularly over this period.  He has been pivotal.

 

And regarding Max / Brundy - I wonder if, provided we lock in 4th place by beating the Tigers, would we consider "managing" Max in the North and Hawthorn games, leaving Brundy as the main ruck?    I remain too be convinced that either should be regarded as a key forward - would love to be proven wrong by the way.,

[dazzledavey36 52,741]

 

[dee-tox 4,835]

1 hour ago, Dee*ceiving said:

Out; Brown, Tomlinson, Woey

In; Petty, Hibberd, Smith 

Sub; Harmes

Think I'd have Woey or Tomo as sub way before Harmes. Harmes is having a annus horribilis! Can't see him on the list next year.

[McQueen 17,864]

We’re getting the job done without Oliver, Fritsch, McDonald and Petty. 
Pressure for spots all over the ground have appeared due to these guys being injured.

I’d love to be top 2 but it ain’t gonna happen. 
We’ve exposed Rivers and more of Jordon to the midfield. Woey is an instant valuable role player. 
Melky is a clutch king. 
Joel Smith can quite frankly play anywhere and impact play. 
 

We get back to full strength before finals, I think we feel relatively confident of our capabilities and to handle the pressure of finals footy. 
 

So I anticipate another tight game and a couple of goals win. 

[layzie 32,819]

16 hours ago, IRW said:

I was referring to Tigers fans re crowd numbers...

I hope for a win  ,we should win.

I doubt 40+ big time

Tempted to take your bet and have  a win win Saturday

Happy to organise another digital handshake. 

[Dee*ceiving 1,630]

We are definitely building some great depth and flexibility in many ways accellerated by the Petty, Fritsch & Oliver injuries and to a lesser extent the limitations of Brown and McDonald.  

Melksham's opportunities in Fritsch's role has lead to good outcomes and a definite confidence boost. 

Viney has had a career best season. 

We've seen the value of Smith forward and as the sub. 

JVR has played ~15 games, mostly held his own and will be better placed to make an impact in September than he would be if he'd only played a handful. 

JJ, Sparrow & Rivers have been exposed to significant midfield minutes they otherwise wouldn't have with Oliver in the team and Tracc not needed forward. 

Plus we've got Hibberd to come back in, potentially Gus relocating to the half back line (his best position IMV), a top 10 ruckman in the twos & proven capable key position backups in McDonald and Tomlinson. 

Whilst clearly a plan off the back of last year, the 'squad' based approach was further enforced by injuy, and there is no doubt it has delivered significant benefits.

[Pennant St Dee 12,663]

20 hours ago, Nicko said:

60k for a non ANZAC eve/non final wouldn’t be a bad result considering we’ve only seen that three times in our history with the tigers….

• 76k - Rnd 22, 1998 (Dees home game)

• 62k - Rnd 14, 2011 (Dees away game)

• 60k - Rnd 15, 2006 (Dees home game)

surprising isn’t it!!

and just in case anyone was wondering….yes, we won all of those games above 💙❤️

Remember the 98 game both had to win to make the 8, we were in good form and we’re just to good. We ended the round 4th on the ladder and steamrolled the eventual premiers Adelaide in the first final the following week 

[layzie 32,819]

2 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Remember the 98 game both had to win to make the 8, we were in good form and we’re just to good. We ended the round 4th on the ladder and steamrolled the eventual premiers Adelaide in the first final the following week 

We were on that day. I'd lost a junior footy grand final in Camberwell but was more keen on what was happening at the G. 

That side has a special place. 

[Demonland 70,267]