PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Sydney

[layzie 29,269]

I would have thought Tmac got one more shot at it but I'm not the selector.

[monoccular 16,281]

3 hours ago, bing181 said:

Hidden amongst the major selection calls is that Judd McVee held his place after a rubbish game. Kudos to the coaches for backing him in.

???  rubbish game???  Cameron, who I saw as his opponent, had a pretty average game by his standards.  So, how did you come to that conclusion ?

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,937]

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[Pinball Wizard 273]

7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

My only worry is Sydney defenders will double team Brown due to not having another solid senior body up forward.

This was certainly a worry in the latter half of last year, when we weren’t fully fit and had some important players carrying injuries. 

It’s going to be different on Sunday. If they double team BBB then we’ll have someone loose and if the ball is brought to ground, then … BANG!

[Travy14 1,518]

I have a feeling the T-Mac "omission" is actually an injury or rest.  The last quarter of the game last week he had a noticeable limp.

I am worried about the work load JVR is going to have in his first game.  and also how big Grundy's tank is atm, i have no worries that Grundy can't dominate his opponent but can he go for 80 - 85% of the game?

Very intrigued with how this plays out, and hopefully out coaching staff have a good plan.

[picket fence 15,366]

11 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Tmac has been very poor, cant be surprised

Agree but definately would have retained Tomlinson

[58er 5,632]

11 hours ago, DubDee said:

thank god we have changed the fwd line set up. Gawn, T Mac and Brown is too tall and not mobile enough 

JVR, Brown, Fritsch should be better. we’ll have more runners and pressure too. 

expect Trac to spend more time than usual fwd 

Was ok in 2021 Gawn Brown and Tmac.  And Gawn no longer for 5/6 matches. Fritta agsin needs to stand up and clearly JVR will play the second ruck role playing say 25 to 33 % of time on the ball and forward or bench otherwise. 

Tmac must be the Sub.  Also some mids must play blinders and others flankers contribute more than last week, ie no passengers when we panicked and our game plan became non existent. Can't do the lights out trick to change momentum at the G so full on running and movement the order of the day. 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,282]

Ignoring the reason for the outs, the thing I like is we have/are rewarding 3 players in JVR, Hibberd and Jordon who were excellent in the VFL last week and deserving of promotion. They will also be hellbent on taking their chance and cementing a spot in the 22. Best of luck to each of them. 

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

10 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

It’s funny how last year we blamed most of our forward problems on Tmac not playing in the second half of the year. Yet, after just 2 games this year, he’s dropped. I agree he’s been poor so far, but it’s putting a lot of faith in Brown, Fritsch and JVR against last year’s grand finalist…

Thank god honestly.  Picking an out of form/unfit Tom has already helped derail previous seasons.   Picking "fit" players in a brutal game > someone that can't really jump or run but is tall and sometimes competes.

If we learnt anything from last year it should be not playing  injured or out of form players til it is way too late.

[Roost it far 6,239]

The eternal optimist in me hopes Schache becomes a key forward for us if Brown and TMac both can't play

[DubDee 21,030]

3 hours ago, 58er said:

Was ok in 2021 Gawn Brown and Tmac.  And Gawn no longer for 5/6 matches. Fritta agsin needs to stand up and clearly JVR will play the second ruck role playing say 25 to 33 % of time on the ball and forward or bench otherwise. 

different in 2021 as Gawn was primarily a ruck. LJ primarily fwd. 

i don’t think Gawn fwd, T Mac and Brown is a good option for us. 

[DubDee 21,030]

can someone who knows footy better than me explain why we’d ask a first gamer in JVR to play ruck and not Brown? just structural so brown is the focal point always?

but harsh on a 193cm kid?

[Neil Crompton 4,817]

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

can someone who knows footy better than me explain why we’d ask a first gamer in JVR to play ruck and not Brown? just structural so brown is the focal point always?

but harsh on a 193cm kid?

Agree but who says we are? I think they’ll share. 

[DubDee 21,030]

1 minute ago, Neil Crompton said:

Agree but who says we are? I think they’ll share. 

a lot of posters speaking about it as if fact…

i thought i was missing something. Maybe Petty can take some ruck duties down that end

[DubDee 21,030]

we’ve selected 5 half backs. can we assume Brayshaw plays some midfield? Rivers on a wing?

we also need some fwd line support with no Kozz. i’ll like to see what Bowie could do on a HF flank but i wonder if we have any plans. maybe Viney more time fwd

[Dee Zephyr 17,835]

Boys are having a run at Goschs. May is out there. Out of the emergencies, T Mac and Melksham are also there. 

On the other side of the field a few Casey boys training with Kozzie and Schache. 

[dazzledavey36 49,001]

6 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Boys are having a run at Goschs. May is out there. Out of the emergencies, T Mac and Melksham are also there. 

On the other side of the field a few Casey boys training with Kozzie and Schache. 

Either Melk or McDonald are subs.

How uninspiring. 

[binman 38,776]

21 minutes ago, DubDee said:

can someone who knows footy better than me explain why we’d ask a first gamer in JVR to play ruck and not Brown? just structural so brown is the focal point always?

but harsh on a 193cm kid?

Because Brown is to rucking what i am to marathon running. 

JVR spent afair bit of tme in the ruck in the second half of last year's VFL season and was the back up ruck in orund one of this year's season.

Plenty of pratice rucking against men.

I'd be more worried for the oppoents he is going to launch into. 

Edited March 31, 2023 by binman

[binman 38,776]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Either Melk or McDonald are subs.

How uninspiring. 

TMac gives us fair bit of postional flexibility given he can go back or forward. 

[DubDee 21,030]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Either Melk or McDonald are subs.

How uninspiring. 

has to be melk surely. under normal circumstances for a sub - playing a Q only he fits the role well. 

T Mac is struggling for fitness or form and would be better for the run at Casey

[Dee Zephyr 17,835]

In the last 15 mins the team has been working on a turnover drill. Team with the ball would link up a few times with handballs to the wing, coach would yell turnover and the defending team would now rebound with a switch to the corridor then inside 50 to a leading player.

May is moving unrestricted to me. 

Edited March 31, 2023 by Dee Zephyr

[Kent 2,605]

Toomorrow  Mr Grundy (Reg to his friends) will have to make a statement justifying his selection by the DEES pivotal gamein my opinion. I'm hoping he takes control

[loges 6,143]

17 hours ago, binman said:

The Pies and the swans share simlar game plan (as do we now too for that matter) - ball in motion, get it forwad quickly, aggresisve kicks and use the corridor.

In many ways that game plan was reaction to ours - it became obvious the only way to beat us was to playt fast so our defence couldn't get set.

The way to beat their game game plan is huge pressure on every disposal, but in particular kicks. Press up to deny space, corall, chase from behind, harrass. Add clogging up the corridor as much as possible.

The Swans' game plan fell apart under the Cats pressur einb the GF. The Pies did well to almost beat the Cats in the prelim - but ultimately lost it becuase their kicks to the corridor in the last quarter came unstuck. 

My tip is that scoring will go down now as the early season fast bvall movment trend will diappate because if teams can't go with teams like the Pies, swans and the dees  - and by that i mean literally leg speed but also conditioning -  they will gte dimantled. And coaches dont like that.

So i expect to see more game like last night where teams look to take th speed out of the game and make it a kick to kick, stoppage based slugfest and clog up the corridor as much as possible.  

I suspect that trend wil start tonight because the Pies will cut the Tigers up if they just go head to head fast footy. The slippery conditions wil help the tigers turn the gamne into a scrap.

As for our game, the key will be how much pressure we can apply.

Pressure, pressure, pressure. 

 

 

Absolutely cannot play anything like last week or will get smashed 

[loges 6,143]

Need to get the pressure rating back to 2021 instead of whatever the pathetic rating would have been last week.

[layzie 29,269]

8 hours ago, Pinball Wizard said:

This was certainly a worry in the latter half of last year, when we weren’t fully fit and had some important players carrying injuries. 

It’s going to be different on Sunday. If they double team BBB then we’ll have someone loose and if the ball is brought to ground, then … BANG!

Aw yeah, BANG, BANG, BANG