PREGAME: Rd 02 vs Brisbane

[Jaded No More 68,972]

12 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

I love petty but if you were judging the game on form not name, he goes out for may. Not Tomlinson. He was exceptional last night. 

What are you talking about? Kept Naughton to 1 goal. Naughton is an absolute gun. 
Tomlinson played on Lobb who is borderline a potato (still has a fantastic game!)

[jnrmac 20,154]

36 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

I love petty but if you were judging the game on form not name, he goes out for may. Not Tomlinson. He was exceptional last night. 

The Dogs skyscraper fwd line had 50 i50s and they kicked 9 goals

Their 4 talls kicked 2 goals.

Your judgement is terrible Muriel

[BDA 22,866]

Tommo has dispelled the doubts about whether he was still AFL standard. But he is still behind Petty unless Harry has a serious loss of form. Great to know Tommo can step in when required but he isn't first choice. 

[Pipefitter 2,163]

50 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

What are you talking about? Kept Naughton to 1 goal. Naughton is an absolute gun. 
Tomlinson played on Lobb who is borderline a potato (still has a fantastic game!)

I think Petty was lucky Naughton can’t kick. But to be honest I don’t think any defender can go with Naugton in the air. He’s hands and timing are ridiculous 

[Jaded No More 68,972]

21 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

I think Petty was lucky Naughton can’t kick. But to be honest I don’t think any defender can go with Naugton in the air. He’s hands and timing are ridiculous 

Yes Naughton missed a couple but as you said, it’s impossible to stop someone who can take the sort of aerial marks he can. He didn’t let Naughton get on the lead at all. He is only 23 which I think people forget. Naughton is also 23 but has played twice as many games as Petty. 

[whatwhat say what 22,896]

naughton is the best tall forward in the competition imo - his reading of the play and ability to take pack marks is second to none

fortunately, he's not the greatest kick in the world

our tall triumvirate of lever, petty, tomlinson worked very well together 

[old dee 23,870]

17 hours ago, ANG13 said:

Kozzy, Laurie, Hunter and Tomlinson out

Viney, Salem, Fritsch and May in. 

Not sure what you were on last night but stop.

[dl4e 5,851]

I am stunned that some people are casting doubts over Petty. He is one of the first I would put in my side. 

[Maldonboy38 6,405]

Kozzie will miss - no way should any footballer not miss at least 2 weeks for that.

Salem back via Casey

May & Fritsch unlikely.

Viney will come in for Kozzie.

[John Demonic 5,848]

58 minutes ago, dl4e said:

I am stunned that some people are casting doubts over Petty. He is one of the first I would put in my side. 

We won't be winning another flag IF we're picking players on reputation and not form. 

Let's be clear, I'm not saying Petty deserves to be dropped, I'm saying the next week or two should be the selection criteria for who May replaces. 

Edited March 19, 2023 by John Demonic

[old dee 23,870]

Good grief we just beat a potential top 4 side by 8 goals and people want multi changes. Now matter how good a team is there will be members who have average games. The only changes IMO will be Kossie out if suspended and perhaps Viney back in. 

[titan_uranus 25,040]

10 hours ago, ANG13 said:

I have said it through the pre season I am out on my own on Demonland with my views on Hunter and he did nothing last night to convince me he should be playing in front of some of our young players or even Harmes on last nights form. And if Salem is fit I am definitely playing him in front of Hunter, just my thoughts. 
 

I don’t expect Hunter to be dropped but I would. 

I have absolutely no idea how or why you hold this view.

Hunter is a proper wing, allows us to spread the field and to not rely on Langdon, plus he’s a strong two-way runner, a very good kick, and a smart read of the play. He’s a critical addition to the side and played his role well last night. 

7 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Tomlinson was excellent. I hope he's given another week and potentially more if form permitting. Am I crazy in thinking Petty isn't an automatic lock, if he gets beaten next week and May is ready to return v Sydney? I know some,even me, have pencilled him in as a future AA Backman, but that doesn't exactly mean his spot is an absolute lock, if others 'below' are performing. It's easy to forget he's still 23* and isn't immune to a dip in form. 

Yes, you are probably alone. Petty is not at all close to being dropped.

However, with Tomlinson playing well, the broader point that there is selection pressure on all players is valid. 

5 hours ago, ANG13 said:

Just my opinion that we have others in front of him. 
 

More than happy to eat my words on Hunter. 

Who are the players you think are ahead of Hunter for that wing and why?

[Big Col 1,347]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Good grief we just beat a potential top 4 side by 8 goals and people want multi changes. Now matter how good a team is there will be members who have average games. The only changes IMO will be Kossie out if suspended and perhaps Viney back in. 

The only reason we're talking about dropping players after that win is because of the quality coming back. May, Fritsch and Viney are automatic inclusions. Salem is too unless it's thought he needs a run in the VFL first. Nobody wants to drop anyone after last night's win.

[mandeelorian 211]

Can you even make 4 changes in 1 week after a massive win albeit pretty big ins ...

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Hard to believe.....but in what reality are Brisvegas favorites?

.. even better !

 

[cantstandyasam 700]

4 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

naughton is the best tall forward in the competition imo - his reading of the play and ability to take pack marks is second to none

fortunately, he's not the greatest kick in the world

our tall triumvirate of lever, petty, tomlinson worked very well together 

I'd love him at Melb, Choco could teach him to kick.

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21 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Salem would have to have a run at Casey wouldn't he? It's been a lomg journey. Thinking Fritta maybe also at game in the Magoos

Viney in, for Kossie, Melksham for Laurie and then a ? on the Sub

Yeah nah. Straight back into the side. 👍🏽

[ElDiablo14 5,002]

9 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Yeah nah. Straight back into the side. 👍🏽

You would think that without Kozzy we really need Fritsch goal kicking magic. It would be hard to defeat the Lions without Kozzy and Fritta (combined for almost a 100 goals last year!!!)

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3 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

You would think that without Kozzy we really need Fritsch goal kicking magic. It would be hard to defeat the Lions without Kozzy and Fritta (combined for almost a 100 goals last year!!!)

Kozzie being rubbed out has no bearing on Fritta’s inclusion in the side for round 2, which is likely what many will think. Even with Kozzie out, if Fritta is anything less than 100% he simply wouldn’t be playing.

I mentioned this before but Fritta was *sooooo close to being in the side last night.

*verbatim quote, even down to the number of 0s in the word “sooooo” 😁

[ElDiablo14 5,002]

3 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Kozzie being rubbed out has no bearing on Fritta’s inclusion in the side for round 2, which is likely what many will think. Even with Kozzie out, if Fritta is anything less than 100% he simply wouldn’t be playing.

I mentioned this before but Fritta was *sooooo close to being in the side last night.

*verbatim quote, even down to the number of 0s in the word “sooooo” 😁

I agree , if not fit he won't play. But if he is fit and ready 🤞🏻 ... Bring the super Frittata on!🔥🔥

[Sir Why You Little 37,119]

14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Harmes is the real worry for me to be honest. 

He started the game straight into the guts but was barely sighted at times.

With Viney out and given the opportunity for more midfield minutes he only finished with 15 disposals. Seemed to fumble a lot last night and had little influence around the contests.

When Viney is fit and ready to then he comes straight back in. I think Harmes is most vulnerable here to lose his spot to him.

Harmes kept The Bont very quiet, he did it very quietly 

Suprised you didn’t notice that

[dazzledavey36 55,311]

11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Harmes kept The Bont very quiet, he did it very quietly 

Suprised you didn’t notice that

Lol he barely had a hard tag on him mate.

I watched the full replay this afternoon and followed Bonts movement around stoppages. There were times Harmes stood near bont and that was it. Not even a hard arm across him or anything.

If anything Harmes probably spent more time on Libba and Treloar then he actually did on Bont. There was a CLEAR focus that we weren't doing a hard tag on him and it was us simply backing our midfield system over theirs which proved success.

Hatmes role was purely to fill in for Viney and provide extra grunt around stoppages. 

Watch the actual game again.

Edited March 19, 2023 by dazzledavey36

[Sir Why You Little 37,119]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Lol he barely had a hard tag on him mate.

I watched the full replay this afternoon and followed Bonts movement around stoppages. There were times Harmes stood near bont and that was it. Not even a hard arm across him or anything.

If anything Harmes probably spent more time on Libba and Treloar then he actually did on Bont. There was a CLEAR focus that we weren't doing a hard tag on him and it was us simply backing our midfield system over theirs which proved success.

Hatmes role was purely to fill in for Viney and provide extra grunt around stoppages. 

Watch the actual game again.

I will happily watch the game again 

Libba Treloar and the Bont were all fairly quiet in the 2nd Half

[monoccular 17,569]

IF Frittata is 100% fit he should come in for Kozzie

IF Viney has recovered fully in for Laurie

IF May 99% fit give him another week … even if 100% keep him back for Buddy

IF Salem ready he will need a week, or two, at Casey 

[dazzledavey36 55,311]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I will happily watch the game again 

Libba Treloar and the Bont were all fairly quiet in the 2nd Half

Libba had 18 disposals and a goal in the 2nd half with 11 coming in the 3rd quarter. That's not quiet by any standard...

Treloar had 16 disposals and a goal in the 2nd half with 11 also coming in the 3rd.

Bont was definitely the quite of the two but that had nothing to do with Harmes as there wasn't a hard tag on him.

Not sure entirely sure what exactly is 'quiet' in your books, but Treloar and Libba were still going fairly hard in the 2nd half.