8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

In one respect  a 'problem" with the forward line stocks is even with the likes of Milky (retained ) Roo and Petty ( if he is indeed to live forward permanently )  is we're ...imho...still one decent sized KPF short.   Whereby we had the likes of Big Benny and Tommy  alas I would think those halcyon days are passed.  Had we a more mature and experienced Forward I doubt that Roo would have been chucked in the deep end as he was.

Other than Fritta we dont have too many who live and breathe forward craft.  Smith isnt too bad.. but not what I think we're looking at as being the KEY forward. Petty might get there...but he's still learning imo.

It is someone like Hogan (oh the irony ) that we need... Not the Lynchs or the like...just a good solid meat and 3 veg realiable PROPER forward.. Will only likely need for 3-4 years.

We dont need a silver bullet...just add to the silver already on hand

Tom Lynch is turning 31 in October. basically same age as Tmac and BBB - but yes body in a better condition.

Wonder how many years he'd have left.

25 minutes ago, BaliDemon said:

I don’t know about that. JVR/Petty is not as good as the Lions, GWS or Blues combos, maybe the Pies duo yes but still a big gamble placing that much pressure on JVR in his second year. Can we afford to take a gamble like that with two solid years left of a premiership window? I’m not sold on it. 
 

Get Tom Lynch. 

Lynch would be expensive both in terms of salary cap and draft picks, is coming off a foot injury and will be 31 next year. 

I think Petty/JVR could give us a better (or similar) return next year to a fit Lynch and we could boost our team in other areas.

2 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Tom Lynch is turning 31 in October. basically same age as Tmac and BBB - but yes body in a better condition.

Wonder how many years he'd have left.

I think a fit Tom Lynch would be great but 've seen two separate reports that he's still getting around in a moonboot ...

9 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd be a big fan of a godfather offer being made to Jamara. 

One things for sure, he knows where the points are 

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

One things for sure, he knows where the points are 

not at docklands tho

4 hours ago, BaliDemon said:

Miers still superior statistically in flag years, even though it wasn’t his best season. 

Look at the past 24 months. Miers has surged, Spargo stagnated/regressed. Not a good sign for a 6th/7th year player. 

👍

1 hour ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd be a big fan of a godfather offer being made to Jamara. 

Me too. Gun already.

1 hour ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd be a big fan of a godfather offer being made to Jamara. 

Absolutely, $5mill for 5 years, pick 5 to the Dogs.

Thats the 5 for 5 for 5 Demon Deal.

Edited September 19, 20231 yr by Roost it far

1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

Lynch would be expensive both in terms of salary cap and draft picks, is coming off a foot injury and will be 31 next year. 

I think Petty/JVR could give us a better (or similar) return next year to a fit Lynch and we could boost our team in other areas.

Salary wise yes not cheap but he wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg in draft capital. Pick 5 wouldn’t be touched. We might get away with our 2024 first rounder which should be in the 15 - 18 range. 

31yo doesn’t phase me. It’s just his body. That’s certainly the question mark. 

I don’t know that JVR is ready to take the next step at this stage. He’s got some filling out to do and got monstered a bit too much for my liking against the big boys. He’s only 20yo. As a combo with Petty with a shot at a flag at stake it’s too big a risk imo. 

We need a proper gorilla coming out of the square. 

Edited September 19, 20231 yr by BaliDemon

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Absolutely, $5mill for 5 years, pick 5 to the Dogs.

Thats the 5 for 5 for 5 Demon Deal.

Actually... in context ... new cba and all that...

$1M a year ..hmmmmmmmm

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Actually... in context ... new cba and all that...

$1M a year ..hmmmmmmmm

You gotta pay overs to lever them out. 

Lynch is a year away at most from being as cooked as TMAC or BB.

Drafting is great but our window is now.

Jamara or kitchen sink at Oscar Allen - perfect age bracket.

Jack Buller was a Swans midseason draftee who kicked 22 goals in 8 VFL games. Big unit.

Unfortunately he immediately extended his contract for a year before he made his debut. Swans really leveraged him.

Rumour was he was going to play WAFL finals?

Can we put a fat contract to him and try to force the Swans hand in the Grundy deal?

I know there is significant baggage and NQR about Tarryn Thomas, but North were open a month ago to the possibility of trading him...would pick 13 be enough to get him across? He is the forward/mid that could switch with Tracc. He is a beautiful kick, fast, can apply pressure, good forward craft. 

He is also a player who with a full pre-season and the right influences around him could be in the true elite in the competition. Hoyne had him as one of the best 6 rated players over the last month of the season. If there are no key forwards on the market and the key backs are overpriced, would be good to buy low on this bloke before he explodes. Would give us a midfield boost and a different type we have been missing, still get another good player with pick 5 to further boost our stocks. Especially is we can't get our hands on the GCS pick, then we should be trying to maximise our premiership window by bringing in skilled players who are upgrades on their incumbents to our 22. 

7 minutes ago, BigMacjnr said:

I know there is significant baggage and NQR about Tarryn Thomas, but North were open a month ago to the possibility of trading him...would pick 13 be enough to get him across? He is the forward/mid that could switch with Tracc. He is a beautiful kick, fast, can apply pressure, good forward craft. 

He is also a player who with a full pre-season and the right influences around him could be in the true elite in the competition. Hoyne had him as one of the best 6 rated players over the last month of the season. If there are no key forwards on the market and the key backs are overpriced, would be good to buy low on this bloke before he explodes. Would give us a midfield boost and a different type we have been missing, still get another good player with pick 5 to further boost our stocks. Especially is we can't get our hands on the GCS pick, then we should be trying to maximise our premiership window by bringing in skilled players who are upgrades on their incumbents to our 22. 

No. 

59 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Lynch is a year away at most from being as cooked as TMAC or BB.

Drafting is great but our window is now.

Jamara or kitchen sink at Oscar Allen - perfect age bracket.

Sure - but Petty plus another year into JVR, they could really do some damage. I feel that our priorities are elsewhere than a KPF, e.g. longer term backup for May + Gawn, plus some on-ballers with decent/elite disposal.

30 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Jack Buller was a Swans midseason draftee who kicked 22 goals in 8 VFL games. Big unit.

Unfortunately he immediately extended his contract for a year before he made his debut. Swans really leveraged him.

Rumour was he was going to play WAFL finals?

Can we put a fat contract to him and try to force the Swans hand in the Grundy deal?

You're kidding right?

I wonder who the back up Ruck is going to be, with Flynn possibly heading to the Eagles.

LRFE has suggested Ned Moyle.

I suggested Goldstein for a year, who could mentor our Casey rucks and play a few games, but he seems to be looking elsewhere. Bryan re signed with Bombers.

I can't think of anyone else.

Edited September 19, 20231 yr by Redleg

1 hour ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Lynch is a year away at most from being as cooked as TMAC or BB.

Drafting is great but our window is now.

Jamara or kitchen sink at Oscar Allen - perfect age bracket.

Lynch hasn't been hungry since he walked into two flags with tiges....

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

You're kidding right?

No, I like the look of him. Wouldn't be offering crazy money but far more than the Swans have got him on the books for and whilst I wouldn't straight swap him for Grundy I'd throw in a couple of 3rd rounders. We have to find a way to get someone!

swans don't need a swathe of picks - they're like us in that they're in the 'win now' phase of their life

hence mckay, grundy, etc.

39 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I wonder who the back up Ruck is going to be, with Flynn possibly heading to the Eagles.

LRFE has suggested Ned Moyle.

I suggested Goldstein for a year, who could mentor our Casey rucks and play a few games, but he seems to be looking elsewhere. Bryan re signed with Bombers.

I can't think of anyone else.

Sam Naismith

26 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

Sam Naismith

Three knee recos and other issues since.  Risky

8 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Mihocek and McStay
Hogan and Ricciardi
Daniher and Hipwood
Curnow and McKay

I think they can easily be better than 2 out of 4 as soon as next year and not too far from the Brisbane and Carlton combinations that are amongst the best in the league.

Unless we get one of the 5 or so genuine stars of the comp we need depth and particularly someone who can go in the ruck to take the load off JVR. 

Who are the two?! 

The only pairing I'd say are potentially Mihocek and McStay. But even then, Mihocek is criminally underrated by oppo supporters. 

It's what they have around them that is superior to us as well. 

 

Edited September 19, 20231 yr by JimmyGadson

9 hours ago, Roost it far said:

You gotta pay overs to lever them out. 

Thats just it $1M..   not massively over all in all...  imo..    for what you should expect.

You would want 50g a season ?