POSTGAME: Match SIM vs St. Kilda

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

4 hours ago, Action Jackson said:

Hey DD did they do this for all of the games?

If so, where can I find it?

No mate it was just a poster from bigfooty who was studying the game m 2nd time watching just to take stats.

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Lampers from bigfooty did the stats on the game for the 4 quarters and provided the following. 

Jake Bowey 14 kicks 2 handballs 7 marks 1 score assist 
Angus Brayshaw 13 kicks 3 handballs 9 marks 2 score assists
Ben Brown 7 kicks 2 handballs 6 marks 2 goals 
Kade Chandler 8 kicks 5 handballs 5 marks 1 goal 1 behind 2 score assists 
Max Gawn 10 kicks 6 handballs 7 marks 15 hit outs 2 goals 1 behind, 1 score assist
Brodie Grundy 4 kicks 4 handballs 2 marks 20 hit outs 1 goal
James Harmes 3 kicks 3 handballs
Lachie Hunter 17 kicks 10 handballs 9 marks 1 goal 3 score assists
Ed Langdon 10 kicks 5 handballs 6 marks 1 goal 1 score assist
Jake Lever 6 kicks 3 handballs 4 marks 
Tom McDonald 4 kicks 3 handballs 2 marks 2 hit outs 1 goal 2 behinds
Judd McVee 12 kicks 4 handballs 6 marks
Steven May 19 kicks 2 handballs 5 marks
Alex Neal-Bullen 11 kicks 4 handballs 5 marks 1 goal 1 behind
Clayton Oliver 10 kicks 16 handballs 3 marks 2 score assists 
Christian Petracca 14 kicks 8 handballs 5 marks 3 goals 1 behind 5 score assists
Harry Petty 7 kicks 2 handballs 5 marks 
Kysiaih Pickett 15 kicks 2 handballs 7 marks 2 goals 1 behind 
Trent Rivers 11 kicks 8 handballs 9 marks 1 goal
Charlie Spargo 4 kicks 3 handballs 4 marks 3 score assists
Tom Sparrow 6 kicks 4 handballs 3 marks 2 behinds
Jacob van Rooyen 1 kick 2 handballs
Jack Viney 9 kicks 10 handballs 5 marks 1 score assist

These stats also reinforce my concern around Harmes and whether he's in our best 22 anymore.

He was at times, running through the centre as a starting mid and then rotating half forward.

To only get 6 touches in 4 quarters of footy as a mid/forward doesn't bode well for him moving into the new season.

[daisycutter 29,616]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

These stats also reinforce my concern around Harmes and whether he's in our best 22 anymore.

He was at times, running through the centre as a starting mid and then rotating half forward.

To only get 6 touches in 4 quarters of footy as a mid/forward doesn't bode well for him moving into the new season.

you're starting to repeat yourself too much, dazzle.......we get it.

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

These stats also reinforce my concern around Harmes and whether he's in our best 22 anymore.

He was at times, running through the centre as a starting mid and then rotating half forward.

To only get 6 touches in 4 quarters of footy as a mid/forward doesn't bode well for him moving into the new season.

His problem has always been his inconsistencies both within games and from one game to the next.

[BW511 2,669]

The stats are interesting reading.

If Kozzie can be up in the high teens to low 20’s each week we are such a better side. He’s a good user and it may stop him trying to do the impossible.

Langdon and Hunter will be spoken about all season long, that I am sure of. To have Hunter get 27 first up is incredible. We have lucked out here - especially when you consider how damaging he can be compared to our second winger over the last 3-4 years

[binman 43,020]

47 minutes ago, BW511 said:

The stats are interesting reading.

If Kozzie can be up in the high teens to low 20’s each week we are such a better side. He’s a good user and it may stop him trying to do the impossible.

Langdon and Hunter will be spoken about all season long, that I am sure of. To have Hunter get 27 first up is incredible. We have lucked out here - especially when you consider how damaging he can be compared to our second winger over the last 3-4 years

I was thinking much the same thing about koz.

He's a brilliant field kick. In addition to good technique, he has great vision and the confidence to take on difficult options, so can really set up dangerous scoring chains.

If he can average 15 plus possessions we get a lot more value out of his field kicking.

Hunter is an even better kick, and also creates dangerous scoring chains. He has that ability the best left footers have to exploit the split second of space lefties get when the defender instinctively shapes to cover a right footer.

I think Mcvee will be in the round one team, and hopefully can keep his spot when Salem comes back. 

He looks class. Fantastic, fluid technique, calm, makes good decision - and hits targets.

Bowey looks in great shape, makes excellent decisions and has a case to being the most reliable kick in the team, certainly up to 35-40 metres.

With Salem, that's 5 elite kicks in our starting 22, who get 15 plus possessions, reliably hit those crtical 25-40 metre kicks, have tricks and set up rolled gold scoring opportunites.

That translates to kicking more goals through quality assists and fewer scoring chains breaking down with junk turnovers (thst often gift the opposition a scoring opportunity).

The other factor is those five players almost certainly have goody's approval to take on risky kicks to the corridor.

That's obviously the best spot to  enter 50 from, so three or four more kicks thst hit the target in the corridor makes us so much more dangerous. 

The four playing all hit corridor targets against the saints, and I'd be guessing collectively were involved in a lot of our scoring chains.

Good times.

Edited February 26, 2023 by binman

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8 hours ago, Demonland said:

I've made a more visually friendly version

Show off ..... but thanks

[Fat Tony 5,231]

Did Jordon play in the second game?

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

11 hours ago, loges said:

His problem has always been his inconsistencies both within games and from one game to the next.

Agree.

Looked completely out of confidence on Friday night.

25 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Did Jordon play in the second game?

Yes he did.

[Fat Tony 5,231]

I watched the first four quarters but St Kilda were woeful and I thought we were pretty average.

[binman 43,020]

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Agree.

Looked completely out of confidence on Friday night.

Yes he did.

This game was our serious dress reherseal for round one, just as was the case in 2021 and 2022. 

I doubt we will have a full strength team next week, and they will probably try some different things eg some new set plays, different positions, some younger players.

Meaning it was a bit of a blow to Jordan and Hibbo.

From the saints game, the only changes I can envision is harmes out (who  did look.a bit rusty - though in his defence it must be hard playing that utility position - same goes for sparrowwho also had a quiet game).

Jordan or maybe hibbo in (Gus could play more as a mid and hibbo takes his spot).

Given his versatility, jordon could be 23rd man. 

[dazzledavey36 54,951]

12 minutes ago, binman said:

This game was our serious dress reherseal for round one, just as was the case in 2021 and 2022. 

I doubt we will have a full strength team next week, and they will probably try some different things eg some new set plays, different positions, some younger players.

Meaning it was a bit of a blow to Jordan and Hibbo.

From the saints game, the only changes I can envision is harmes out (who  did look.a bit rusty - though in his defence it must be hard playing that utility position - same goes for sparrowwho also had a quiet game).

Jordan or maybe hibbo in (Gus could play more as a mid and hibbo takes his spot).

Given his versatility, jordon could be 23rd man. 

Like this idea.

[Whispering_Jack 30,198]

The Herald Sun is reporting that Steven May is expected to be free to play Western Bulldogs in the Round 1 blockbuster. 

“May was involved in a late hit on Saint Dan Butler on Friday night but the umpires and St Kilda are not expected to refer the incident for match officer review.”

[DeeSpencer 25,717]

34 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The Herald Sun is reporting that Steven May is expected to be free to play Western Bulldogs in the Round 1 blockbuster. 

“May was involved in a late hit on Saint Dan Butler on Friday night but the umpires and St Kilda are not expected to refer the incident for match officer review.”

Jay Clark working harder for May to be suspended than he does on his fake trade rumours.

May was millimetres from spoiling the ball and there was no wind up or aggression in it. Butler bounced up and took his kick and the Saints players really weren’t too fussed because they knew what it was.

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On 2/25/2023 at 11:01 AM, old dee said:

Thanks Andy. I am struggling with the decision on whether to get Kayo via the club membership this year. Could not go yesterday due to  having a cataract removed but after studying the fixture there are quite a few games that will be tv events for me this season. May have take a subscription. 

If you are only going to watch it during footy season, then it still may work out cheaper paying the Kayo standard of $30 a month and suspending it for approx 5 months than the club’s annual

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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Jay Clark working harder for May to be suspended than he does on his fake trade rumours.

May was millimetres from spoiling the ball and there was no wind up or aggression in it. Butler bounced up and took his kick and the Saints players really weren’t too fussed because they knew what it was.

Didn't even raise a murmur from the crowd 

[In Harmes Way 7,793]

On 2/25/2023 at 11:01 AM, old dee said:

Thanks Andy. I am struggling with the decision on whether to get Kayo via the club membership this year. Could not go yesterday due to  having a cataract removed but after studying the fixture there are quite a few games that will be tv events for me this season. May have take a subscription. 

There's got to be a one-eyed joke in there somewhere?

[Deeoldfart 8,033]

16 hours ago, binman said:

I was thinking much the same thing about koz.

He's a brilliant field kick. In addition to good technique, he has great vision and the confidence to take on difficult options, so can really set up dangerous scoring chains.

If he can average 15 plus possessions we get a lot more value out of his field kicking.

Hunter is an even better kick, and also creates dangerous scoring chains. He has that ability the best left footers have to exploit the split second of space lefties get when the defender instinctively shapes to cover a right footer.

I think Mcvee will be in the round one team, and hopefully can keep his spot when Salem comes back. 

He looks class. Fantastic, fluid technique, calm, makes good decision - and hits targets.

Bowey looks in great shape, makes excellent decisions and has a case to being the most reliable kick in the team, certainly up to 35-40 metres.

With Salem, that's 5 elite kicks in our starting 22, who get 15 plus possessions, reliably hit those crtical 25-40 metre kicks, have tricks and set up rolled gold scoring opportunites.

That translates to kicking more goals through quality assists and fewer scoring chains breaking down with junk turnovers (thst often gift the opposition a scoring opportunity).

The other factor is those five players almost certainly have goody's approval to take on risky kicks to the corridor.

That's obviously the best spot to  enter 50 from, so three or four more kicks thst hit the target in the corridor makes us so much more dangerous. 

The four playing all hit corridor targets against the saints, and I'd be guessing collectively were involved in a lot of our scoring chains.

Good times.

Thanks Bin.  Just need to read this out at tonight's Podcast.  

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59 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

There's got to be a one-eyed joke in there somewhere?

I made one on another tread i.e." I am not going on Friday I will be more one eyed than normal"

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4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Jay Clark working harder for May to be suspended than he does on his fake trade rumours.

May was millimetres from spoiling the ball and there was no wind up or aggression in it. Butler bounced up and took his kick and the Saints players really weren’t too fussed because they knew what it was.

Wouldn't be Pre-Season without sweating on a May suspension though. 

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,137]

Some take-outs from the Troy Chaplin post-match (sorry if this has been covered elsewhere - sooo hard to keep up!)

* Kossie and Trac developing a forward/on-ball rotation between them (drool...)

* Max and Brodie rotating forward (as opposed to any notable backline role) '60/40 or 70/30' Max/Brodie, noting, relatively, M's goals and B's stoppage follow-up work in sim.

* Going into the pocket had to some extent been for a reason (unstated...) and will continue but look to increased directness, with speed, into fwd 50, or further up the ground.

[DeeZee 7,397]

We should see some more skillful ball movement this season , and better delivery into the forward line with Kozzie on ball and Hunter on the wing .

I just watched the replay of the match again and I agree with Binman that McVee will be in the round one side , he was a real stand out.

If Salem and Fritsch are back for the season opener, Harmes might be an out, but I have a feeling they want to give Chandler more of a run.

Hibberd was too good for the seconds, so a couple will miss out but it’s a good problem to have.

I also reckon we will see the best of Petracca more consistently this year, he is looking scary good.

[bing181 9,242]

1 hour ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

* Max and Brodie rotating forward (as opposed to any notable backline role) '60/40 or 70/30' Max/Brodie, noting, relatively, M's goals and B's stoppage follow-up work in sim.

Wonder if this is also part of a long-term plan to keep Max playing into his thirties - park him down forward to protect him from being knocked from pillar to post each week as full-time ruck. Perhaps noteworthy also that Tom Mac took ruck duties deep in the forward line, once again taking some of the load from Max.

[Monbon 1,840]

where can I watch the replay of this pre-season game?

 

[Devil In Disguise 2,278]

2 minutes ago, Monbon said:

where can I watch the replay of this pre-season game?

 

Kayo.