Daisy Pearce calls time on a stellar career

[kryton101 411]

Can’t say I’ve seen her play much as I find AFLW unwatchable, but I find her commentary very insightful and refreshing.

[Demonland 73,495]

 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,969]

47 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Need the AFL to update their policy and bring in the parent / child rule for recruitment of players.  55 games from Daisy must be worth at least 110 games to get over the games played threshold!

A couple of potential MFC AFL / AFLW  players there in the making!

Edited January 18, 2023 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Sideshow Bob 2,462]

Any chance of her returning to head up our women's program after a couple of seasons learning at the cattery?

[Wrecker46 3,067]

My daughter has had number 6 on her dee's jumper every time since she was about 3 years old. One day at the footy she got asked if was for Jordan Lewis and she said straight back no it's for Daisy

[Brownie 6,067]

1 hour ago, Sideshow Bob said:

Any chance of her returning to head up our women's program after a couple of seasons learning at the cattery?

I think she should be straight into the men's senior coaching team as soon as we can possibly get her back.

Listened to this wonderful podcast from her on the way up to watch the AFLW grand final win last year.

A true highlight for me in over 50 years supporting this club was being there to witness the victory and watch a truly wonderful Melbourne team playing for each other.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/so-much-more-than-that-daisy-pearce-on-finding-fulfilment-outside-flag-dream-20221115-p5byi3.html

An amazing leader and human being.

I love the way she's been outspoken on a number of issues in footy over the last couple of years.

A great football brain and commentator.

She is just all class.

Please don't stay at the cats for too long Dais.

 

[Brownie 6,067]

 

https://youtu.be/JqxC5I1eVl8

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,568]

Having now seen the presser, the associated media, and 'Landers reflections in the foregoing, and with my own reflections going back to the first exhibition game, I'm wondering if there has been any player, female or male, who has had Daisy's breadth of all those characteristics that one might group together under 'presence'.

Suggestions? I'm not sure many will tick all the boxes...

[rpfc 28,912]

Without sounding like a Social Justice Warrior or being too ‘Woke’ - go and look at some of the passive aggressive, to outright toxic, comments on social media on Daisy’s retirement. 

Read through that and tell me that a bloke would get the same treatment. 

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

11 hours ago, BDA said:

Possibly. Libby Birch or Maddy Gay I reckon.

I’d sincerely hope not. Many ahead of her in terms of talent and leadership 

[Wodjathefirst 2,667]

16 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Without sounding like a Social Justice Warrior or being too ‘Woke’ - go and look at some of the passive aggressive, to outright toxic, comments on social media on Daisy’s retirement. 

Read through that and tell me that a bloke would get the same treatment. 

Makes me admire her that much more!

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

25 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Without sounding like a Social Justice Warrior or being too ‘Woke’ - go and look at some of the passive aggressive, to outright toxic, comments on social media on Daisy’s retirement. 

Read through that and tell me that a bloke would get the same treatment. 

Haters gonna hate. All social media does is provide the chance for the lowest ebb to mercilessly troll behind a veil of anonymity.

We as a country still have a lot of social problems and I fear it is only getting worse.

[darkhorse72 1,926]

We all saw this coming.  Great career giving the short history of the AFLW.   More importantly our club is better for her involvement more than just on the playing field.  She has been part of the cultural change in the club, plus the creation of the culture of our women's team.  Despite only winning 1 GF so far, we have always been almost there with her in charge (Often unlucky based on AFL season decisions or 1 lost game). 

We'll hopefully get the see her become a great coach and a regular first string commentator of the footy. 

 

[rpfc 28,912]

6 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Haters gonna hate. All social media does is provide the chance for the lowest ebb to mercilessly troll behind a veil of anonymity.

We as a country still have a lot of social problems and I fear it is only getting worse.

It’s just being revealed more, and the more toxic ‘take’ hits the algorithm and gets amplified.

Its always been there. The only silver lining is I hope those that have mildly misogynistic, racist, and anti-gay views see the toxicity they are standing in front of and turn around and step back.

[Webber 10,586]

A game-changing pioneer in the history of our sport. And one thing’s for sure I’d say….“She’ll be back”. 

[Demonland 73,495]

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,021]

11 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Having now seen the presser, the associated media, and 'Landers reflections in the foregoing, and with my own reflections going back to the first exhibition game, I'm wondering if there has been any player, female or male, who has had Daisy's breadth of all those characteristics that one might group together under 'presence'.

Suggestions? I'm not sure many will tick all the boxes...

Ron Barrasi and Ted Whitten, particularly through the 1960s and 1970s. Both were called "Mr Football" (which was a bit confusing!). I think Lou Richards can join this category, although I'm not old enough to remember him as a player. I am struggling to think of anyone in the 21st century. Perhaps Nathan Buckley?

[BDA 23,018]

11 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Many ahead of her in terms of talent

she should have been all australian last year. 

[Pates 9,678]

11 hours ago, rpfc said:

Without sounding like a Social Justice Warrior or being too ‘Woke’ - go and look at some of the passive aggressive, to outright toxic, comments on social media on Daisy’s retirement. 

Read through that and tell me that a bloke would get the same treatment. 

Can you link to where you’re seeing these comments? Absolutely disgusting and pathetic for people to say a bad word about her; she’s been a champion of women’s footy, a champion of the game, and should go down as a legend of the footy club. 

I find her special comments far more in line with the modern game compared to the likes of Dermie, Carey, and I’d throw in Gary Lyon as well (just to show I’m not biased 😉). 

Interestingly I remembered having a debate with an Adelaide person that argued she shouldn’t have the standing in the game that she has. They were arguing Vic based bias, but the fact is that without Daisy pushing the women’s game as much as she has I really doubt they would be in the 18 team position they are now. The Dees B&F will surely be named after her at the least. 

[rpfc 28,912]

23 minutes ago, Pates said:

Can you link to where you’re seeing these comments? Absolutely disgusting and pathetic for people to say a bad word about her; she’s been a champion of women’s footy, a champion of the game, and should go down as a legend of the footy club. 

I find her special comments far more in line with the modern game compared to the likes of Dermie, Carey, and I’d throw in Gary Lyon as well (just to show I’m not biased 😉). 

Interestingly I remembered having a debate with an Adelaide person that argued she shouldn’t have the standing in the game that she has. They were arguing Vic based bias, but the fact is that without Daisy pushing the women’s game as much as she has I really doubt they would be in the 18 team position they are now. The Dees B&F will surely be named after her at the least. 

Go to any media outlet praising her on FB or Twitter.

Or don’t, save yourself the outrage, it’s what they want.

[BDA 23,018]

21 minutes ago, Pates said:

Can you link to where you’re seeing these comments? Absolutely disgusting and pathetic for people to say a bad word about her; she’s been a champion of women’s footy, a champion of the game, and should go down as a legend of the footy club. 

I find her special comments far more in line with the modern game compared to the likes of Dermie, Carey, and I’d throw in Gary Lyon as well (just to show I’m not biased 😉). 

Interestingly I remembered having a debate with an Adelaide person that argued she shouldn’t have the standing in the game that she has. They were arguing Vic based bias, but the fact is that without Daisy pushing the women’s game as much as she has I really doubt they would be in the 18 team position they are now. The Dees B&F will surely be named after her at the least. 

Look at the comments after the HUN article on her retirement. 

The HUN disabled the comments section on AFLW related articles a few years ago (i was surprised to see comments section enabled on Daisy's article) because most of the remarks were absolute rubbish. Mainly trolling but some were from legit posters with an 18th century outlook. 

[Deeoldfart 8,109]

I love all the praise above for Daisy.  Every bit of it 100% justified and earned.  She’s a true legend of our great Club, and the game itself.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,568]

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Ron Barrasi and Ted Whitten, particularly through the 1960s and 1970s. Both were called "Mr Football" (which was a bit confusing!). I think Lou Richards can join this category, although I'm not old enough to remember him as a player. I am struggling to think of anyone in the 21st century. Perhaps Nathan Buckley?

Thanks for the uptake, LDvC; it was a genuine invitation for discussion.

Barass and Bucks were two that occurred to me, and you'd be right to include Teddy and Lou with them. However, I feel the three 'oldies' were fairly narrowly 'footy blokes' and showed only parts of themselves - Lou and Ted their humour and knockabout-ness, Ron his seriousness, and all three their quirky passion.

Bucks comes closer, prepared to show different, revealing, non-footy, sides of himself - for example, in the few occasions I listened to him with Gerard Whateley - combined with more (expressed) football 'intelligence'. Compared to the others, he may have benefited from the much broader platform modern media gives to individuals, both in reach and in openness. However, fairly or not, he has seemed somewhat divisive and self-interested.

Daisy has benefited from the same thing, no doubt, and it has further evolved between Bucks' and her 'times'. AFLW has contributed, encouraging further reach and, particularly, openness. There may also be 'a gender thing', in (generalisation warning!) women's preparedness to be vulnerable, particularly in supportive environments.

So, Daisy seems to have everything all the above have, and more, and of equal or better 'quality'. So, I think I'm still searching for peers.

More thoughts anyone?

Edited January 19, 2023 by Timothy Reddan-A'Blew

[No. 31 1,382]

16 hours ago, kryton101 said:

Can’t say I’ve seen her play much as I find AFLW unwatchable, but I find her commentary very insightful and refreshing.

I too like her commentary! Hopefully she returns in some capacity to MFC down the track.

[Deebauched 1,220]

I know i am playing with fire such is the request that we tone down this constant adulation of AFLW players. It goes on relentless 12 months a year. There are more positive comments about AFLW than the mens which is odd considering the massive difference in public interest.

AFLW players are lauded as brilliant athletes and legends or potential legends of the game.

Every AFLW article is basically the same.

The most positive thing i can think of is that AFLW has eaten into cricket media pie.

Good, i cant stand  modern day mens cricket.