TRAINING: Monday 5th December 2022

[daisycutter 29,605]

7 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I'd doubt the 'clone' intent  of any poster in this matter, to date. Similarities only are surmised. Breadth of footy experience and observation enable one to discern certain characteristics seen within and across the generations, including player generations, and that is all that is recalled - no absolute 'dead cert' intonations. Golly, it is as if having an opinion, large, small and in this case, minute, is once again DL criticised. It must be time, therefore, to stop finding linkages - no matter how remote - to player attributes seen so far before and since recruitment, and the ultimate questions:  wonder why this guy or that guy was selected? Are these good attributes? What experiences have we had in the footballing past to see certain recurrent attributes, by whom? 

come come, ds56, you are too easily triggered.

the post you responded to and was seemingly aggrieved by, was very much a cheeky tongue-in-cheek comment and amusing.

golly, indeed 😆

 

[deejammin' 2,370]

33 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

I'd doubt the 'clone' intent  of any poster in this matter, to date. Similarities only are surmised. Breadth of footy experience and observation enable one to discern certain characteristics seen within and across the generations, including player generations, and that is all that is recalled - no absolute 'dead cert' intonations. Golly, it is as if having an opinion, large, small and in this case, minute, is once again DL criticised. It must be time, therefore, to stop finding linkages - no matter how remote - to player attributes seen so far before and since recruitment, and the ultimate questions:  wonder why this guy or that guy was selected? Are these good attributes? What experiences have we had in the footballing past to see certain recurrent attributes, by whom? 

Deemania I was loving the posts and comparisons. I’m excited by all our draftees, the position of our list and our potential to win more flags in the near future. I was enjoying how positive things get about every player at this time of year, it’s only a matter of months and one loss before all the negativity returns. I was enjoying it not lambasting it!

[Lucifers Hero 39,612]

A few decent opp players are out until the new year:  Sam Walsh, Max King, De Goey, Stringer who seems to never e fit!

It can't help their season build up.

[durango 2,005]

At this stage we have to enjoy that we have not lost a game we have players like Grundy, Hunter and Schache who have made our list better and hope some of our younger players like Bowey, Rivers, Van Rooyen, Sparrow, Jordan, Howes, Chandler, Moniz-Wakefield, Deakyn Smith, Woewodin, Turner  and Laurie take the next step or leap to the top step this year.

[58er 6,399]

7 hours ago, durango said:

Matthew will fillout in time but don't expect a 2023 debut unless we have a disastrous run of injuries, development of young bodies with the help of the fitness staff and diet his 84Kg body will become a 94-98Kg body in a year, so maybe he will be ready in 2024.

I believe his selection was more long term since JVR is already on his journey to AFL football and there is no rush.

There is no harm on Jeffer developing ahead of Schedule.

BTW this Casey Team might just be worth getting a bet on B to B if possible. 

[adonski 11,878]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

A few decent opp players are out until the new year:  Sam Walsh, Max King, De Goey, Stringer who seems to never e fit!

It can't help their season build up.

I might need a helmet for the upcoming facepalms, but reckon free agent Darcy Parish could thrive in our midfield 

[58er 6,399]

2 hours ago, durango said:

At this stage we have to enjoy that we have not lost a game we have players like Grundy, Hunter and Schache who have made our list better and hope some of our younger players like Bowey, Rivers, Van Rooyen, Sparrow, Jordan, Howes, Chandler, Moniz-Wakefield, Deakyn Smith, Woewodin, Turner  and Laurie take the next step or leap to the top step this year.

It would be strange if MOST of the above players did not develop further. Some are already fair/ good AFL players but need to improve and others are in 2nd or third seasons where the pre season is exciting seeing bulked up and fitter bodies more ready to use their undoubted skills. Bring it on.

Out if the above Bowey Rivers Sparrow Chandler JJ JVR Turner and Taj appeal as improvers to AFL debut or standards.

Other is a  real smoky is AMW who has added bulk etc to his rare skill and no limit on his career should be placed on his shoulders. 

That's  whatt we pay Choco etc. the big bucks for!!

[Lucifers Hero 39,612]

57 minutes ago, adonski said:

I might need a helmet for the upcoming facepalms, but reckon free agent Darcy Parish could thrive in our midfield 

Not sure what he has to do with the injured players post but anyway I'll play along.

He ain't a team player, just wants to rack up possessions and won't run both ways.  He is where our midfield players were in 2019.

No thanks.

[adonski 11,878]

1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Not sure what he has to do with the injured players post but anyway I'll play along.

He ain't a team player, just wants to rack up possessions and won't run both ways.  He is where our midfield players were in 2019.

No thanks.

The more we have the ball the less the opposition does!

[Fat Tony 5,220]

If we can find a way to transplant the weight off Sestan and onto Jefferson in the preseason, we’ll have Charlie Curnow and Dusty in the forward line for Round 1!

[dworship 3,342]

2 hours ago, adonski said:

I might need a helmet for the upcoming facepalms, but reckon free agent Darcy Parish could thrive in our midfield 

Happy to oblige, and he would have to unlearn the Essendon way, which would take some time.

[kev martin 9,812]

I'm off on my holidays. 

Won't be able to report on training till after the new year.

Happy holidays to everyone.  

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,693]

14 minutes ago, kev martin said:

I'm off on my holidays. 

Won't be able to report on training till after the new year.

Happy holidays to everyone.  

Has this leave been approved by Demonland? Seems odd that you're allowed time off during what is traditionally your peak season.

[DeeZone 9,704]

Have a great holiday Kev, Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family.!!!!

[Lord Nev 13,512]

@kev martin- I drove past training on the way to work this morning and noticed there looked to be some kind of screen/score board setup on the boundary, is that new as of today or something you've noticed when you've been at sessions? Not a big story, but never seen that before. Cheers!

 

[kev martin 9,812]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

@kev martin- I drove past training on the way to work this morning and noticed there looked to be some kind of screen/score board setup on the boundary, is that new as of today or something you've noticed when you've been at sessions? Not a big story, but never seen that before. Cheers!

 

It is new, i have not seen it. 

[DeeSpencer 25,497]

39 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

@kev martin- I drove past training on the way to work this morning and noticed there looked to be some kind of screen/score board setup on the boundary, is that new as of today or something you've noticed when you've been at sessions? Not a big story, but never seen that before. Cheers!

 

Do you mean something on the Punt road wing because I can’t recall seeing anything there when I went last Friday?

Or do you mean the new and much larger open air pavilion on the city side, in which they’ve set up a temporary gym and more equipment than I’ve seen in previous years?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

15 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Do you mean something on the Punt road wing because I can’t recall seeing anything there when I went last Friday?

Or do you mean the new and much larger open air pavilion on the city side, in which they’ve set up a temporary gym and more equipment than I’ve seen in previous years?

On the pavilion side. I only got a quick glance as I drove down Punt Rd, but all the players were out, all the cones etc were setup and there looked to be an electronic scoreboard/screen setup - probably about 3m x 2m as a really rough guess. I'm assuming it's something they just wheel out there but I've never seen it before.

[kev martin 9,812]

20 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

On the pavilion side. I only got a quick glance as I drove down Punt Rd, but all the players were out, all the cones etc were setup and there looked to be an electronic scoreboard/screen setup - probably about 3m x 2m as a really rough guess. I'm assuming it's something they just wheel out there but I've never seen it before.

Do you think they will use it as immediate feedback/review kind of device?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, kev martin said:

Do you think they will use it as immediate feedback/review kind of device?

No idea tbh! I literally saw it for about 3 seconds haha! Looked more like just an LED scoreboard at that quick glance.

[deva5610 970]

23 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

A few decent opp players are out until the new year:  De Goey

Injured or waiting for parole? I can't keep up 😜

[Dingo 1,057]

There is an electronic scoreboard on the city side of the ground.I am not sure what it’s purpose is .None of the players or coaching staff pointed it out.I liked the way Oliver Sestan was training.Nothing in particular but he looked like he knew what he was doing!

[Dante 2,739]

On 12/6/2022 at 10:57 AM, Its Time for Another said:

Spare a thought for this kid for a minute. One week up at schoolies the very next without any prior warning running around against the most elite athletes in the country and having no fitness base to be able to keep up. I know the feeling of trying to keep up with fit athletes when you're not. It's excruciating. It's going to be a tough summer for him catching up. They'll really have to nurse him psychologically as well as physically. It would break many young men. Wouldn't surprise me to hear that he's got a different fitness training to the main group until at least after the Christmas break. 

If I remember correctly, there was a guy called Rigoni who was sitting in a pub having a beer with his mates when he was told he’d bee selected by the Dees, can’t recall how many games he went on to play. 

[durango 2,005]

6 hours ago, Dante said:

If I remember correctly, there was a guy called Rigoni who was sitting in a pub having a beer with his mates when he was told he’d bee selected by the Dees, can’t recall how many games he went on to play. 

He played 107 games was from Hawthorn Reserves.

Edited December 7, 2022 by durango

[layzie 33,753]

8 hours ago, Dante said:

If I remember correctly, there was a guy called Rigoni who was sitting in a pub having a beer with his mates when he was told he’d bee selected by the Dees, can’t recall how many games he went on to play. 

Correct Dante, I believe he'd just won the flag with Myrtleford and got the call to come down and train with Melb during their Mad Monday. His response was something like "Sure, why not!"

Edited December 7, 2022 by layzie