binman 44,856 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 03:55, whatwhat say what said: p&d vs h&c Expand As long as it isn't holy grail. The Slab? It'd make a great footy song. 2 Quote
Redleg 42,182 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 07:13, binman said: As long as it isn't holy grail. The Slab? It'd make a great footy song. Expand Just as an aside, do you know your avatar’s nick name? Quote
Clintosaurus 7,953 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 07:32, Redleg said: Just as an aside, do you know your avatar’s nick name? Expand Down here in Hobart he's known as Bull. 1 Quote
Hampton 22 519 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Quote
adonski 13,280 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:00, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Expand Pick 6 appears to be cursed 3 1 5 Quote
Demonland 74,467 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Death Riders Returning from a Successful Weekend of Death Riding 6 1 18 2 Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) On 16/07/2023 at 09:10, adonski said: Pick 6 appears to be cursed Expand RIP Ben King's knees Edited July 16, 2023 by John Demonic Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:10, adonski said: Pick 6 appears to be cursed Expand Yeah but 6,66 is good for us 😈 1 2 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Death-riders memberships available now 1 7 Quote
binman 44,856 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 07:32, Redleg said: Just as an aside, do you know your avatar’s nick name? Expand The Slab? Quote
binman 44,856 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:00, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Expand If we get get pick 6, I hope we also get pick 66. Then it will picks 6 66. The number of the beast. With a stutter. 2 Quote
Roost it far 10,181 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 15/07/2023 at 14:46, JimmyGadson said: If we were to nab pick 7 from Gold Coast, we'd go to the draft with pick 4 and 7. Expand That’d really spruce the list up nicely heh Big Fella, big fella, big fella, big fella!! 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:14, Demonland said: Death Riders Returning from a Successful Weekend of Death Riding Expand Meanwhile, freo trying to get their season going... 7 Quote
Billy 2,576 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:00, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Expand 2015 4 Clayton Oliver 6 Aaron Francis 2 2 2 1 Quote
Boots and all 1,000 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 13/07/2023 at 21:59, Pulp Fritschon said: Pick 4 and Grundy to Geelong? Expand Sounds like a great swap for Cameron 😂 Quote
Redleg 42,182 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:26, binman said: The Slab? Expand Mushy. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,182 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 07:43, Clintosaurus said: Down here in Hobart he's known as Bull. Expand At Dees he was known as Mushy. Quote
david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 There is no incentive for Hawthorn to keep winning games the best pick we will get is 4 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:00, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Expand On 16/07/2023 at 09:10, adonski said: Pick 6 appears to be cursed Expand Curse aside, it's a really interesting question. As drafting and recruitment gets better over time, there should be less speculation further down the draft board. But obviously luc, environment and development would play a big part in any drafting. I think what it really comes down to is how much of a lock the selected player is. At pick 1, there is often a standout, or maybe 2-3 in the convo. At pick 50 there might be 20 players in the conversation. So the likelihood of getting a good player may depend on when it starts opening up in any given year. In some years there are a clear top 3, then the next 4 might be not as clear cut. In the case 4 v 6 is going to be much more influenced by drafting nouse and development. If there is a clear top 4 though, then 4 v 6 is going is much more likely to be about skill/quality of the draftee. Quote
Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,064 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 So, if we get Jason Talylor on the Demonland podcast again this year, it would be interesting to know how he's enjoying the death ride!! In all seriousness though, I do wounder how it's actually influenced our recruitment planning. I'm guessing that knowing well have at worst a pick somewhere in the Range 4 - 8 will give the team some great options to seriously think about going forward. 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 As it stands Out: Jackson, 44 (via bedford), 67 In: Jefferson, 4, 23 3 1 Quote
Doug Reemer 1,208 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 This is a good Twitter handle to follow! https://twitter.com/freo1strdpick23/status/1680542298638041088?s=46 1 Quote
JTR 2,910 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 09:00, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Expand Last 10 years... 6 Quote
Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,064 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 16/07/2023 at 14:16, JTR said: Last 10 years... Expand One of the main things this table shows me JTR is Jackson asides, how long it's been since the MFC has had a top 10 pick. For the sustained sucess of the team, it's so important we get more in and thus what a gift from God this season Freo are having is for us in the circumstances. 5 Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 So if we assume that we're getting pick 4, 5 or 6, are there half a dozen young prospects in and around that area of the draft that the draft watchers could put forward here? I'm in that group that doesn't follow the fortunes of the prospects We could of course use the pick as part of a bundle or work our way up to pick 2 or 3 or even using the pick for an established player But young prospects? Quote
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