binman 44,837 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said: p&d vs h&c As long as it isn't holy grail. The Slab? It'd make a great footy song. 2 Quote
Redleg 42,172 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, binman said: As long as it isn't holy grail. The Slab? It'd make a great footy song. Just as an aside, do you know your avatar’s nick name? Quote
Clintosaurus 7,953 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Redleg said: Just as an aside, do you know your avatar’s nick name? Down here in Hobart he's known as Bull. 1 Quote
Hampton 22 519 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Quote
adonski 13,274 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Posted July 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Pick 6 appears to be cursed 3 1 5 Quote
Demonland 74,441 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Death Riders Returning from a Successful Weekend of Death Riding 6 1 18 2 Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, adonski said: Pick 6 appears to be cursed RIP Ben King's knees Edited July 16, 2023 by John Demonic Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, adonski said: Pick 6 appears to be cursed Yeah but 6,66 is good for us 😈 1 2 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Death-riders memberships available now 1 7 Quote
binman 44,837 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Redleg said: Just as an aside, do you know your avatar’s nick name? The Slab? Quote
binman 44,837 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. If we get get pick 6, I hope we also get pick 66. Then it will picks 6 66. The number of the beast. With a stutter. 2 Quote
Roost it far 10,147 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 18 hours ago, JimmyGadson said: If we were to nab pick 7 from Gold Coast, we'd go to the draft with pick 4 and 7. That’d really spruce the list up nicely heh Big Fella, big fella, big fella, big fella!! 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 56 minutes ago, Demonland said: Death Riders Returning from a Successful Weekend of Death Riding Meanwhile, freo trying to get their season going... 7 Quote
Billy 2,576 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. 2015 4 Clayton Oliver 6 Aaron Francis 2 2 2 1 Quote
Boots and all 1,000 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 7:59 AM, Pulp Fritschon said: Pick 4 and Grundy to Geelong? Sounds like a great swap for Cameron 😂 Quote
Redleg 42,172 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, binman said: The Slab? Mushy. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,172 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Clintosaurus said: Down here in Hobart he's known as Bull. At Dees he was known as Mushy. Quote
david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 There is no incentive for Hawthorn to keep winning games the best pick we will get is 4 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. 2 hours ago, adonski said: Pick 6 appears to be cursed Curse aside, it's a really interesting question. As drafting and recruitment gets better over time, there should be less speculation further down the draft board. But obviously luc, environment and development would play a big part in any drafting. I think what it really comes down to is how much of a lock the selected player is. At pick 1, there is often a standout, or maybe 2-3 in the convo. At pick 50 there might be 20 players in the conversation. So the likelihood of getting a good player may depend on when it starts opening up in any given year. In some years there are a clear top 3, then the next 4 might be not as clear cut. In the case 4 v 6 is going to be much more influenced by drafting nouse and development. If there is a clear top 4 though, then 4 v 6 is going is much more likely to be about skill/quality of the draftee. Quote
Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,064 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 So, if we get Jason Talylor on the Demonland podcast again this year, it would be interesting to know how he's enjoying the death ride!! In all seriousness though, I do wounder how it's actually influenced our recruitment planning. I'm guessing that knowing well have at worst a pick somewhere in the Range 4 - 8 will give the team some great options to seriously think about going forward. 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 As it stands Out: Jackson, 44 (via bedford), 67 In: Jefferson, 4, 23 3 1 Quote
Doug Reemer 1,208 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 This is a good Twitter handle to follow! https://twitter.com/freo1strdpick23/status/1680542298638041088?s=46 1 Quote
JTR 2,910 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Hampton 22 said: The fun of this thread aside, does history show that a, say, number 4 pick is really better than a number 6? I would have thought that there’s so much luck and talent development involved that it wouldn’t make much difference. Last 10 years... 6 Quote
Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,064 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, JTR said: Last 10 years... One of the main things this table shows me JTR is Jackson asides, how long it's been since the MFC has had a top 10 pick. For the sustained sucess of the team, it's so important we get more in and thus what a gift from God this season Freo are having is for us in the circumstances. 5 Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 So if we assume that we're getting pick 4, 5 or 6, are there half a dozen young prospects in and around that area of the draft that the draft watchers could put forward here? I'm in that group that doesn't follow the fortunes of the prospects We could of course use the pick as part of a bundle or work our way up to pick 2 or 3 or even using the pick for an established player But young prospects? Quote
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