7 minutes ago, Billy said:

Seems like we’re not allowed to talk about this, but what is going on?

There's your problem.

You don't know what's going on but go on to cast blame anyway.

Close this thread seriously.  We have another 3 threads talking about this matter incessantly.  He is out for 3-4 weeks, get over it.  Clearly was managed well.

I’m sure this has been raised but  since Burgess left for family reasons our injuries fitness have been questionable by Griffiths, call it bad luck but questions need to be asked by the club! 
In 2022 we seemed to run out of puff after 1/2 time & Oliver’s injuries seems to have been managed poorly 

 

5 hours ago, Billy said:

Seems like we’re not allowed to talk about this, but what is going on?

The way that our Best  & most important player has been looked after & treated has been diabolical 

First nicks his hamstring, then is seen running a day later

Then hospitalised for 5 days with a infected toe & releasing himself 

Then the online trolling about drug taking, with the Coach taking waaay to long to back his player & shut down the rumours 

Public arguments  with the fitness staff 

Promises of playing every week since the Kings birthday & now talk about him missing a least another  month & now talking about his hamstring tendon

This feels like a very public soap opera unfolding  in front of our eyes

I feel so sorry for Clarry the way he’s been treated & how unprofessional the football club has been  

Over 10 weeks out for gods sake

 

 

Settle down Billy, you are being a bit dramatic. Have you considered that Oliver's hamstring injury might be a tendonopathy rather than a muscle strain and that loading it up, as opposed to rest, is the rehab protocol. Sports rehab is an inexact science and our strength and conditioning team have done an excellent job in managing soft tissue injuries over the past few years. While it's frustrating that Oliver has been out for an extended period I think our medicos and strength and conditioning personnel deserve some credit.

Edited July 7, 20231 yr by chookrat

We’ve actually done really well at rehabbing injured players this year. Let’s run around and say we haven’t because Oliver’s injury is a tricky one to get right. 

18 hours ago, McQueen said:

I’M DOING DRY JULY, CLAYTON!

A good reason to make it wet.

Seems relevant to post here.  Don't shoot the messenger!

On a positive note... has Clarry changed stylists?  Looks like he's had a bit of trim and starting to get into the swing with a bit of a fade!!??   Noice one Clazza!

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/06/melbournes-mismanagement-of-oliver-injury-labelled-a-disgrace-and-a-debacle/

Edited July 7, 20231 yr by Demon Dynasty

Lol, Chad’s brother doing his thing.

17 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Unfortunately with the Oliver news, it is what it is. Need to move forward now and continue to find ways to think our midfield.

I think the positive is that our midfield has actually held up better then I thought. We're still beating teams in contested possessions and centre clearences so not like our strength around the ball has dropped.

 

An other potential upside of Oliver being out is it creates an opportunity for JJ.

JJ' s best spot in my opinion is as a true mid, so Oliver's' injury could prove a blessing in disguise by giving him the chance to cement his spot in the team as a mid - and potentially change the trajectory of JJ's career (ie he might stay, not leave to get a permanent spot in the ones)

2 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Seems relevant to post here.  Don't shoot the messenger!...

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/06/melbournes-mismanagement-of-oliver-injury-labelled-a-disgrace-and-a-debacle/

The minute I saw Kane Cornes involved  🤣🤣 🤣🤣. I do like the way he can pretend he has some insightful comments about subjects he has absolutely no expertise in!!

5 minutes ago, dworship said:

The minute I saw Kane Cornes involved  🤣🤣 🤣🤣. I do like the way he can pretend he has some insightful comments about subjects he has absolutely no expertise in!!

Yep he loves to create a bit of controversy the old Volcano

2 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Yep he loves to create a bit of controversy the old Volcano

Kane:  "hmmm Clayton plays for the Demons... how to get the most click bait out of this... I know, alliteration!  Debacle!  Disgrace!"

34 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Lol, Chad’s brother doing his thing.

The 'good' Cornes Chad 😀

1 hour ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Seems relevant to post here.  Don't shoot the messenger!

On a positive note... has Clarry changed stylists?  Looks like he's had a bit of trim and starting to get into the swing with a bit of a fade!!??   Noice one Clazza!

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/06/melbournes-mismanagement-of-oliver-injury-labelled-a-disgrace-and-a-debacle/

Absolutely 100% agree with this.It has been a debacle!

i don't understand the aggression of some people on here. It's entirely valid for people to have concern about how Oliver's injury has been handled. 

Edited July 7, 20231 yr by PartyTimeJohnny

 

2 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Seems relevant to post here.  Don't shoot the messenger!

On a positive note... has Clarry changed stylists?  Looks like he's had a bit of trim and starting to get into the swing with a bit of a fade!!??   Noice one Clazza!

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/06/melbournes-mismanagement-of-oliver-injury-labelled-a-disgrace-and-a-debacle/

You can all laugh at Kane Cornes but he’s right it has been a debacle, anyone who thinks it’s not have just got their head in the sand

15 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I’m sure it has. Can’t be easy going through a complex rehab while idiots on the internet keep calling you a drug cheat 🙄

6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I’m sure it has. Can’t be easy going through a complex rehab while idiots on the internet keep calling you a drug cheat 🙄

Why if it is a complex rehab we have been told since Kings birthday that he’ll be playing every blo#dy week

This is when rumours start when a 1-2 week injury become 10 weeks

28 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Apologises for being slightly of topic but I need help, ‘Social Media Speak’ has finally got the better of me !

What the hell does “I really for him” mean ?

Was it written by an imbecile, a typo perhaps, deliberate social media clickbait or just yet another example of the destruction of our vocabulary due to the Internet ?

If I am in fact the [censored] here, I await the response from the usual crowd, no names mentioned.

"Brukner told 3AW he believed the Melbourne fitness and medical team was elite but the complicated nature of hamstring issues meant sports science had still not found a perfect way to manage them, despite decades of research."

10 minutes ago, bing181 said:

"Brukner told 3AW he believed the Melbourne fitness and medical team was elite but the complicated nature of hamstring issues meant sports science had still not found a perfect way to manage them, despite decades of research."

Nah, sorry that's complete rubbish. 

How do I know that?

Well, i don't need some 'expert' with an agenda to protect the reputation of his profession.

I have all the experts I need right here on DL.

I mean, how could Bruckner hold a candle to people who can confidently say we have botched oliver's treatment with zero access to his private medical information or zero knowledge about what his injury is, or what the complications might have been.

Or limited or no medical training whatsoever for that matter.

You don't need years of study and training to understand the medical team have stuffed up. It's just common sense. That's all that is needed

If covid taught us anything it is that experts are dangerous.

 

Edited July 7, 20231 yr by binman

On 7/6/2023 at 5:35 PM, Engorged Onion said:

That is a really salient point, that emotional posters either don't know, or choose to forget.

The injury list is THE biggest predictor of premiership success.

I also hope that all your follow up posts also take this into account... because all your previous certainly don't.

Not sure what ur point is? Mine is a bit of banter & a laugh… my point on taking a your chance is true, look at all the premiership teams they all have had a healthy list

3 hours ago, binman said:

Nah, sorry that's complete rubbish. 

How do I know that?

Well, i don't need some 'expert' with an agenda to protect the reputation of his profession.

I have all the experts I need right here on DL.

I mean, how could Bruckner hold a candle to people who can confidently say we have botched oliver's treatment with zero access to his private medical information or zero knowledge about what his injury is, or what the complications might have been.

Or limited or no medical training whatsoever for that matter.

You don't need years of study and training to understand the medical team have stuffed up. It's just common sense. That's all that is needed

If covid taught us anything it is that experts are dangerous.

 

Absolutely Binman. I am all for doing ones research and the best way to diagnose an injury is looking at photos and videos of the players at training. These so called experts with their fancy degrees, x-rays and rehab protocols. I'd much rather listen to the experts who spend large amounts of time in the toilet cubicle at work posting on Demonland.

6 hours ago, chook fowler said:

A good reason to make it wet.

July already has just flown by!!!