On 27/04/2023 at 21:26, rpfc said:

I hope he has a lovely brunch with friends in Hardware Lane on the morning of the game 

Check.

Mate.

I hope he finds good parking around there.

CM

If he can take 9 marks, lay 3 tackles, have 18 kicks and kick 3.2 I'll call it a good game.

I’ve been waiting for this combination to try out with JVR, Schache and Fritsch.

I think it’s the perfect balance and very mobile , let’s hope it bears fruit.

  On 27/04/2023 at 20:41, Gorgoroth said:

Tbh I thought he was 28 or their abouts. 25… I’m surprised.

He was in the same draft as Oliver. In fact both teammates and close friends at the Murray Bushrangers.

I've always been a bit bias on Schache just from dealing with him back then.

Some people forget that during his draft year he was rated the best key forward in his draft year by a fair mile ahead of the likes of Charlie Curnow, Harry McKay and Eric Hipwood. So the talent is definitely there. Being at Brisbane at a time where they were one of the worst teams going around didn't help his development. Then having to go to the doggies where he's had no continuity due to form, injuries and Bevo being an odd unit hasn't helped either.

If it was me I'd give Schache 5 games in a row at AFL level to see how whether he's up to it and just advise him that they have zero expectations, but also just wanting him to compete hard each game.

  On 27/04/2023 at 23:01, dazzledavey36 said:

He was in the same draft as Oliver. In fact both teammates and close friends at the Murray Bushrangers.

I've always been a bit bias on Schache just from dealing with him back then.

Some people forget that during his draft year he was rated the best key forward in his draft year by a fair mile ahead of the likes of Charlie Curnow, Harry McKay and Eric Hipwood. So the talent is definitely there. Being at Brisbane at a time where they were one of the worst teams going around didn't help his development. Then having to go to the doggies where he's had no continuity due to form, injuries and Bevo being an odd unit hasn't helped either.

If it was me I'd give Schache 5 games in a row at AFL level to see how whether he's up to it and just advise him that they have zero expectations, but also just wanting him to compete hard each game.

The compete hard and help pressure the opposition when they have the ball is his Achilles IMO - hopefully he can improve in that area and perform well 

He should realise its now or never 

well he won’t get an easier game. north have conceded the most amount of points aside from WC. He should get plenty of opportunities 

So, to summarise the thread thus far, Schache will:

1. Have a scrumptious breakfast.
2. Transmogrify into a competitive beast.
3. Kick 3 and a half goals.

Go Josh!

  On 27/04/2023 at 13:46, Bates Mate said:

Still only 25 , plenty of upside good kick at goal . Hope he goes well. Bbb and tmac will be done by the end of next year if not before

He has a lot to play for and I hope he has been listening to Goody. Whilst you dont see it on TV what he does off the ball and after the drop will be important. 

Good luck Josh Schache, try and enjoy your first game in the Red & Blue at the G. Stay in the moment work hard, beat your man, kick a couple and open up the forward line for Fritta, JVR and Kozzie and hopefully stay in the team.!!!!!

  On 27/04/2023 at 22:10, layzie said:

I hope he finds good parking around there.

CM

Well, if he can find good parking near Hardware Lane he will at least have proven he's developed a bit of mongrel competitiveness!

Personally, I'm setting my Schache expectations at; kicking a goal, getting a bundle of long-lead marks to help us link up as we move the ball, and having a really good view as Van Rooyen feasts on the 1-on-1 contests created by the faster ball movement and extra space created by Schache's unselfish team-oriented play.

I recall we gave the two ex bulldogs different contracts.  Hunter got 2 years but Schache only 1.

So this is it . Couldnt have been given a better game for his debut although Hawks and Eagles just raised their hands and said Hold my beer!_

  On 27/04/2023 at 23:07, TRIGON said:

So, to summarise the thread thus far, Schache will:

1. Have a scrumptious breakfast.
2. Transmogrify into a competitive beast.
3. Kick 3 and a half goals.

Go Josh!

4th possibility: he will mark on the goal line with 10 seconds to go and the Demons 3 points down, and will refuse to take the kick until the AFL acknowledge him as Living Person Josh Schache, Freeman on the Land.

  On 27/04/2023 at 13:31, DemonWA said:

Good luck to the lad. Weids is playing like a man at the bombers so I have hope Shaq will reinvent himself too.  

Who would have thought we'd line up without Ben Brown or Tmac in the F50 without injuries being an issue. I'm stoked that the FD are taking a look at the whole squad and aren't scarred to mix things up. 

OK but I believe that although BBB and TM are playing VFL, and may have underlying 'fitness'  their underlying chronic injuries are the reason they are not performing up to scratch.

  On 28/04/2023 at 00:14, Deebauched said:

I recall we gave the two ex bulldogs different contracts.  Hunter got 2 years but Schache only 1.

So this is it . Couldnt have been given a better game for his debut although Hawks and Eagles just raised their hands and said Hold my beer!_

Hunter wasn’t given a contract by us, it was his original contract he signed at the Bulldogs that had 2 years to run that they’re paying a large portion of over the duration that he’s on. 
 

Schache is also signed on for 2 years. 

Does he have a nickname?  If not, I'll nominate "Love" 😁

(I hope I don't have to explain why)

Anyway, his second efforts and doing the little things when he doesn't have the ball is what I'll be most interested to see tomorrow night.

On the few occasions I've watched him at Casey, those were definite areas for improvement.

  On 28/04/2023 at 05:53, JTR said:

Does he have a nickname?  If not, I'll nominate "Love" 😁

(I hope I don't have to explain why)

Anyway, his second efforts and doing the little things when he doesn't have the ball is what I'll be most interested to see tomorrow night.

On the few occasions I've watched him at Casey, those were definite areas for improvement.

Diesel is his nickname at the Dees.

  On 28/04/2023 at 06:17, 12345_54321 said:

Diesel is his nickname at the Dees.

I hope it’s not - not fast but can run all day or has a lot of torque.!!!

  On 04/10/2022 at 08:15, Bitter but optimistic said:

That is a fair dinkum power spew! Pity he wasn't upright - may have Brocken a distance record or two.

Straight out of the Excorcist. 

  On 28/04/2023 at 08:29, leave it to deever said:

Straight out of the Excorcist. 

Nah deever - he needs to rotate his noggin 180 degrees for that!

  On 28/04/2023 at 08:50, Bitter but optimistic said:

Nah deever - he needs to rotate his noggin 180 degrees for that!

I'd love to see that spew aimed at Toby green. What a signature move.

Really hope it clicks for him. He’s done well at VFL level and deserves his chance. 

Not to mention that he’d really be doing our forward a big favour.

 

I'm excited by the fact we're in a no.lose situation with Josh. He either comes in ajd performs a role or he's a bust, but protects Jefferson's development and allows BB and Tmac time to gain form themselves.

But there are a couple excellent posts on this thread that make me intrigued. I've always felt Schache gets pushed off contests far too easily, but Ben Brown does too. But BB and Schache are both excellent kicks and have a height advantage. The thing BB struggles with his ground level and agility, particularly at his age. Schache has him covered there.

In tandem with JVR and Fritsch, with protection from Max/Grundy, Schache will hopefully be able to form a functional part of our system. And if he can, it's a stroke of genius recruiting. I also trust Mark Williams' development credentials to get the best out of him.

Like @dazzledavey36, I hope they give him a bit of time / continuity. 

Very average performance. Does not compete when required. Depth at best 

  On 29/04/2023 at 13:39, Smokey said:

Does not compete when required.

This is what stood out to me too. Didn't seem to have near the intensity of his other teammates.

I'd give him another week, but would be having a word in his ear.

I thought he was serviceable tonight, and did enough for the role.

He isn't our target going forward: that's Fritsch, or Roo, or Gawn, or Grundy, or Pickett even.

So when Schache was our target it was a bit like kicking long to Ben Brown and hope it's neutralised.

What I thought he did well though was when he marked on the flank, too far out to score, he wheeled quickly and kicked very well to a target. The ability to move it on quickly with good foot skills from that position can't be overrated: holding it up is costly.

He finished with 9 disposals for 5 score involvements, including a goal and a goal assist. 4 marks, all outside 50, and 3 i50s. He had 2 stoppage clearances as well (from stoppages he was ruck) and is credited with 2 score launches: I'm pretty sure both of those clearances resulted in shots at goal. This from 76% game time.

I think that's a serviceable first game back in the firsts and think he is worth persisting with.

 

His ability to take forward ruck work means that the undersized JVR doesn't do it, and Gawn and Grundy can both set up a kick behind play. TMac can't do this, BBB can.

Edited April 29, 20231 yr by deanox