Hawks racism allegations (merged thread)

[Demonland 71,131]

 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Grapeviney
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[Lucifers Hero 39,394]

Even if half of that is true they should never use 'The Family Club' moniker again.

[whatwhat say what 22,592]

That was a tough read

Pretty vile

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,336]

Gobsmacked.

[demosaw 1,011]

Wow. This is very sad but great that it is now in the open. Does this taint Clarko’s legacy and all others involved/who stayed silent: Yze, Viney snr?

Should North be pulling the eject lever?

[Lucifers Hero 39,394]

 

9 minutes ago, demosaw said:

Wow. This is very sad but great that it is now in the open. Does this taint Clarko’s legacy and all others involved/who stayed silent: Yze, Viney snr?

Should North be pulling the eject lever?

Very, very sad.

Viney left in 2008 and Yze started in 2014.  Not sure we should even vaugely link them or others to these horrible events.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[BDA 22,693]

This is unbelievable. Must be thoroughly investigated by the AFL and heavy sanctions imposed if these details are proved. 

Wouldn't be sending my son anywhere near that football club if these allegations are true. Disgraceful behaviour 

[layzie 33,729]

Hopefully Adem Yze isn't implicated in this?

[DeeGee 177]

Horrendous if even partly true.  I’m not sure how anyone would think that those actions are good for any footballer’s career. How was that meant to improve performance?

[BW511 2,634]

Wonder if North Melbourne knew this was happening?

This does not paint a great picture for the Hawks as a club and Clarkson as a person, not exactly what you want your marquee signing being associated with

 

Edited September 20, 2022 by BW511

[Mickey 4,640]

37 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

 

Very, very sad.

Viney left in 2008 and Yze started in 2014.  Not sure we should even vaugely link them or others to these horrible events.

Fagan started in 2008 and left in 2016. Not much of a cross over there

[Jaded No More 68,855]

As a woman, reading this article made me sick to my stomach.

Men should NEVER be allowed to make decisions relating to a woman's body or fertility, and nobody has the right to ever tell someone else how to handle their private family matter.

[Vipercrunch 2,820]

Very disturbing reading.  Lot's of horrible allegations made that unless they are completely fabricated, I just can't see how they can be defended.  Scary thing is this is relatively recent, not something from the 70's or 80's.  

It all seems so counterintuitive to think that these young men would perform better if forced to remove themselves from their partners and kids...

[Redleg 40,782]

 

If true, it’s horrible and my heart goes out to all who were affected.

 

Edited September 20, 2022 by Redleg

[Demonland 71,131]

 

[dees189227 12,361]

Wow that's horrific. I just cannot fathom the stories that I've read To tell a player and there partner to get an abortion is just horrifc and just so wrong. 

To change there sims cards in there phones to cut off contact and lose contact with there partners is awful.

I wonder how Sonya Hood fells about reading this and how the indigenous players at nth feel. 

[doc roet 1,287]

If all these allegations are proven true, Clarkson should never be allowed to coach again at any level.

[Fritta The Hair G.O.A.T. 510]

That is absolutely psychopathic behaviour, unbelievable. To be able to carry out those actions like essentially showing up to the player's house to evict their partner without questioning yourself as a human - unfathomable.

 

Horrible for all partners and players involved. You also have to feel a bit for North - their biggest signing in years and less than a month later this comes out. Wonder how they'll handle it 

[layzie 33,729]

Just finished the article. I have never read anything like this before regarding a football club, not even close. If 20% of this is true none of the people mentioned should ever work in this sport again. 

[The heart beats true 18,089]

In the late 90’s I knew a lot of players drafted into AFL clubs. At the first meeting of one player I knew with his new club all the drafted players where asked about their relationship status and told to end their relationships. They were also warned to limit contact with families to one call a week, and to not talk to them about football, or anything that happened at the club, at all. On day one.

Prior to the draft the player welfare manager at my under 18’s club told my family, and any family that would listen, that ‘the worst thing that can happen is that you get drafted’. It was a very confusing thing to hear.

The expectation on young players was insanely all encompassing. Everything I read here, while shocking, also sounds entirely plausible in the context of what I’ve been told.

[Lucifers Hero 39,394]

I'm really struggling with this. 

That Clarkson and Fagan, men who are husbands and fathers would even contemplate such inhuman behaviours is rephrensible on so many levels: moral, abuse of power, racism. 

It is right up there with the Ess drug saga. Perhaps even worse in that it was deliberate, selective to one racial group and extended to controlling partners and family decisions that affect them for the rest of their lives.

It certainly puts a moral stain on Clarkson's 4 premierships.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Thank christ we never merged with them. The not so family club.

[cookieboc 775]

I hope that the MFC has done/ doing better

[demon3165 2,682]

People need to calm down they are allegations, until proven people need to be careful with their wording.

[Bystander 903]

Very hard to absorb this. But there shouldn't be a rush to judgement. Such a shame. There better be a coherent response.