37 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Let’s hope the sickos out there don’t use this as an opportunity to troll. Wouldn’t be surprised.

Too late. 
The internet is full of “tough men” saying Petty is weak for showing emotions.  
 

We live in a dumpster fire of toxic masculinity. 

I think Brown was more referring to being embarrased by the comment made (does Petty want it to be public) rather then embarrased by being upset part

5 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

For all the criticism about our ‘apparent’ deteriorating culture and selfishness, last night all I saw was a single united club playing and supporting each other. 

 

Jonathan Brown’s comment is extremely disappointing. As a senior commentator, influential figure in the sport, a father and a 40 year old man, he should have been much more considered in his commentary - particularly given it was known from the outset to be something inflammatory about a family member and Petty is a young 22 year old. I think he behaved completely appropriately in the circumstances.

In addition to their focus of mental health, inclusiveness, women and on field behaviour, Brown and Fox Sports should immediately apologise to Petty, and the AFL investigate the incident.

Spot on.

I have a 19 year old sun. He is a full on gamer and often plays late into the night.

Listening talking to his teamates and opponents (he plays a team strategy game called rust), he is often so aggressive and frankly unpleasant.

I get that's part of the gaming culture but my son is not normally like that.

It's like going gback in time to my youth - aggressive young blokes everywhere.

[censored] like Brown are part of the problem.

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Too late. 
The internet is full of “tough men” saying Petty is weak for showing emotions.  
 

We live in a dumpster fire of toxic masculinity. 

One of our problems in society is  that men are conditioned to act with this tough guy crap. The world would be a better place if more men showed their feelings. We might get fewer Trump types. 

Different take, and this might make me a dinosaur too - tears are often a frustration thing.
 

As in you’re so angry by what has been said and frustrated because you know you can’t respond as you’d like that you end up crying.  As in ‘I’d like to smash Zorko but know it’s the wrong thing & also don’t want to miss finals’ 
 

I thought those were rage tears. 
 

Very disappointing to hear Brown suggest Petty might be embarrassed.  The AFL types all talk about mental health but seem unable to connect  that old fashioned societal expectations of masculinity really hurt men & crush their ability to share their feelings.  I love that our players so strongly care & support each other, they’re amazing examples to young ppl, especially men, about how you love your mates. 

3 hours ago, binman said:

I don't think that's quite what he said.

I heard it as Brown saying, after footage of him crying, that petty might be embarrassed for his part.

Which, even if I'm right is still pathetic. I mean what possible reason would petty have to be embarrassed?

The last quarter should be viewed through the lens of that incident.

The entire team was impacted by seeing petty so obviously distressed and would have white hot angry, particularly his brothers in arm down back.

Impressive effort by our boys , particularly Harry  to remain as focused as they did and not lose the plot and do something silly.

Can only speak for myself but I would be a bit embarrassed if there was footage of me crying being watched on replay by a million people including everyone I know. 

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

One of our problems in society is  that men are conditioned to act with this tough guy crap. The world would be a better place if more men showed their feelings. We might get fewer Trump types. 

 social media algorithms help these [censored] find each other. In the past they wouldn't have the guts to make a comment. Now type anything and you find a crowd to back you up no matter how sick and twisted you are. 

I dislike Zorko as much as the next guy, but there was heaps of niggle, and scuffles prior to this incident, Zorko was their main protagonist probably trying to get some reaction from his teammates. Through all that, there were plenty of words coming from Demons, many of them... You don't have to scoll Twitter for long to see there's a bit of ammunition to throw Zorkos way if you chose to... How do we know Petty or other Demons didn't cast the first stone...?

Hope this doesn't result in embarrassment of being able to dish it out but not take it.

3 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

I dislike Zorko as much as the next guy, but there was heaps of niggle, and scuffles prior to this incident, Zorko was their main protagonist probably trying to get some reaction from his teammates. Through all that, there were plenty of words coming from Demons, many of them... You don't have to scoll Twitter for long to see there's a bit of ammunition to throw Zorkos way if you chose to... How do we know Petty or other Demons didn't cast the first stone...?

Hope this doesn't result in embarrassment of being able to dish it out but not take it.

Big big difference between getting stuck into one another and getting stuck into a family member. 
That stuff is off limits for a reason. There is no need for it. Ever. 
 

18 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

 

I think you’re all bring too harsh on Brown until we know what he meant by this. There are several ways to read into it. Maybe he referring to personal family details being discussed amongst the public. Or all the attention when this should be kept in-house. Brown has shown to be a good person over many years and seems to be a good father too. Let’s not cancel him just yet

you can tell Dorko does not believe he is in the wrong....   what a twit.

He gave Hipwood an absolute bath, which has been somewhat overlooked.

I loved how our players gave it to Zorko at every opportunity afterwards. Not sure if Demon sides from previous years would have had that in them.

13 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

I think Brown was more referring to being embarrased by the comment made (does Petty want it to be public) rather then embarrased by being upset part

Yeah. after listening to the soundbite again perhaps thats what he meant. Would like to hear him clarify his remark

5 minutes ago, red and blue forever said:

you can tell Dorko does not believe he is in the wrong....   what a twit.

More like Fkwit.

8 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Big big difference between getting stuck into one another and getting stuck into a family member. 
That stuff is off limits for a reason. There is no need for it. Ever. 
 

I tend to agree

But my point is, how do we know a Demon didn't do that first?

2 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

I tend to agree

But my point is, how do we know a Demon didn't do that first?

I suppose we don’t. But I know who has form with appalling on field behavior and it’s not Melbourne players. 
 

Zorko got in trouble for his treatment of Touk Miller earlier this year. He is not a good person. Or a smart one. 

Zorko is a giant skid mark on the underpants of society!!!!!

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

Gutless of Zorko to deny what he said. 

So he thinks Petty imagined it.

34 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Can only speak for myself but I would be a bit embarrassed if there was footage of me crying being watched on replay by a million people including everyone I know. 

 No shame in responding emotionally to a slight directed at your family. Good on him for showing the impact it can have

It's one of life's paradoxes that men get criticised for bottling up their emotions but also get criticised if they show them.

43 minutes ago, binman said:

Spot on.

I have a 19 year old sun. He is a full on gamer and often plays late into the night.

Must be a bit hot to handle

8 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

So he thinks Petty imagined it.

Strange isn't it. He denies what was said but the Lions apologised. Make that out !!!

AFL must be big enough to make a statement.  We have all this about caring for mental health and about men talking about how they are feeling. Yes are “R U OK” ? 
 

Well it’s clear Harrison Petty is not ok.  I don’t care what it’s about. Zorko should apologize and say verbal taunts are NOT OK.  

Petty is a great young player and must be supported. 
 

Great to see him teammates supporting him. 

48 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

I think Brown was more referring to being embarrased by the comment made (does Petty want it to be public) rather then embarrased by being upset part

That’s a really good point. Appreciate your perspective.

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