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9 minutes ago, Vipercrunch said:

The poor bugger should stop dropping the knees.  The one against Essendon that caused all the uproar was only a mistake because it lingered high and became overly agressive.  AFL's call was contact was only high because JG lowered himself so intially the call of play on was correct but the "make him earn it" aspect that wasn't called a free was the error.

Spargo and kossie are every bit as bad as Ginnivan.

And selwood has been doing it for years, just not in front of goal so it has been ignored.

I agree they shouldn't get a free if tbe6 demonstrably drop the knees, but personally I'd prefer more emphasis on the tackler not going high.

Tackle them around the waist and its not an issue.

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39 minutes ago, binman said:

Spargo and kossie are every bit as bad as Ginnivan.

And selwood has been doing it for years, just not in front of goal so it has been ignored.

I agree they shouldn't get a free if tbe6 demonstrably drop the knees, but personally I'd prefer more emphasis on the tackler not going high.

Tackle them around the waist and its not an issue.

Couldn't agree more Binman. Joel Selwood invented dropping at the knees and raising an arm it's only the fact that Ginnivan has a bit of personality that he gets picked out, I for one don't mind him, it's good to have a villain.

I reckon Kosi had missed a few frees this year as a result of his ducking/ arm raising. Makes it bloody hard for the umpires I'm glad they don't show slow motion replays of my work day.

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12 minutes ago, binman said:

Spargo and kossie are every bit as bad as Ginnivan.

And selwood has been doing it for years, just not in front of goal so it has been ignored.

I agree they shouldn't get a free if tbe6 demonstrably drop the knees, but personally I'd prefer more emphasis on the tackler not going high.

Tackle them around the waist and its not an issue.

I know Selwood has been doing it for years, but half of his comes from the strength to lift his arm, not always dropping the knees. However, Ginnivan and Weightman for the Dogs have taken this to a whole new level, which is why I think we're seeing them get punished more. I don't think Kossie does it terribly much, he's just low to the ground at speed - very similar to why Viney got a free last week, he was low at speed, as compared to dropping the knees. Ginnivan drops at the knees and throws his head back - nearly before contact's been made. It's very hard for a tackler not to go high in those instances, some have even been no more than 60cms off the ground when they make contact but was high before the crack down! So normally lower than the waste, just made high by the actions of the player.

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16 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Some great pre-match analysis for killing time (Half way down page):

https://www.footytalkingpoints.com.au/post/ftp-afl-21

 

Now that was not a bad summation, but  they went on how easily they ran over us in the last quarter of QB,  no accountability of our injuries and no May,   and then this

Yet, based off what I saw last week and where we are at in the season, it’s hard not to tip Melbourne.

They look back to their defensive best and if they are able to own the game in their front half, I find it hard to see Collingwood winning. I think Melbourne win comfortably.

 

And I think so as well,

 

And tonight Toby aged 8 runs out with Tom Sparrow,  Hope Sparrow has a blinder.  Young Toby, lucky boy...

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Welcome back to the whether* channel

my take is the rain will stop in around 45 mins. Most of the game will be rain free or drizzle 
 

*shout out to the gramma thred 

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41 minutes ago, binman said:

Spargo and kossie are every bit as bad as Ginnivan.

And selwood has been doing it for years, just not in front of goal so it has been ignored.

I agree they shouldn't get a free if tbe6 demonstrably drop the knees, but personally I'd prefer more emphasis on the tackler not going high.

Tackle them around the waist and its not an issue.

Spargo and Kozzy both do it but I’d argue it’s as bad.  And the AFL should have stopped Selwood doing it 15 years ago but they fluffed it.  However, JG took it to a new level by making winning the high free his first and only goal when confronting a tackler.  Once the dust settles the game will be much better off.  Whether Jack has enough other strengths in his game to remain affective at the highest level remains to be seen.

Edit for clarification - I’ve never liked Spargo and Kozzy doing it, or any other Melbourne player.  I loved Brad Green but disliked when he started throwing his head back late in his career.  Playing for a free is totally against what I view as the mythical “spirit of the game”.

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I’ve been in covid iso this week and been replacing rotten timber on exposed end of my deck. Having run string lines for every 5th board I would like to line up before a firing squad whomever laid it originally as it’s as crooked as a politician. It has been a nightmare to straighten and space properly (ie 5-8mm not 0.5mm). I don’t want to even start on posts set into the ground (sloping block) and lack of termite barrier . Dear god. It had been a big week so thank you dees for wrapping it up with a win (please)

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Have to admit, I nearly wimped out as it was [censored] down rain when I left The Manor. However, I displayed true G and D and am currently enjoy a well earned libation before heading to the G.

I'm confident of a comfortable victory

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19 minutes ago, 640MD said:

Now that was not a bad summation, but  they went on how easily they ran over us in the last quarter of QB,  no accountability of our injuries and no May,   

Fair call. 'Great' analysis might've been a bit overboard - Just thought id post a little bit of light reading anyway. 

My expectation bar is so low for the media that I don't expect neutrals to re-watch an old matchup or remember, as we fans do, players getting subbed off and playing injured, but it's a standard we should expect. 

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I’ve read a number of reviews and they all have said, Collingwood have all these strengths across the ground, blah blah blah, then every person whose written the article goes onto tip the Demons!

It seems people trying to find reasons to tip the Pies, but don’t believe it!

We don’t have a great record against the Pies but last years QB match Demons were as flat as pancakes, and this year Max injured, Turner went off and Petty was injured, we stopped to a walk and yet with 5 mins to go we’re only 8 points down, they kicked 3 in last 5 mins to make it 26 points.

Looking forward to something good from the Demons and a solid win!

 

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53 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

I’m at the Tippler and everyone that’s walked in so far has been draped in black & white. Looks like they will be out in force tonight. 

Why not? It's their Grand Final after all!

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25 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

I’ve been in covid iso this week and been replacing rotten timber on exposed end of my deck. Having run string lines for every 5th board I would like to line up before a firing squad whomever laid it originally as it’s as crooked as a politician. It has been a nightmare to straighten and space properly (ie 5-8mm not 0.5mm). I don’t want to even start on posts set into the ground (sloping block) and lack of termite barrier . Dear god. It had been a big week so thank you dees for wrapping it up with a win (please)

Sell immediately 

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