The Stigga 1,097 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 JVR has to play in the ones next week 5 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Are Dunstan, Munro, Baldi and Mitch White effectively Sauntner-ing our young mids? Bedford, Chandler, Laurie even Woewodin are all good enough to get significant midfield minutes. They’d get 25 disposals rather than 15ish. That’s 60% more chances to work on their disposal and decision making. Fair enough to use the big bodies when we’re playing a top side, but against Preston’s collection of Northern footy league level players I don’t think we’re getting the right development here. 1 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 van Rooyen is a two-grabber. He also dropped an easy chest mark from a perfect pass. Dropping chest marks is my pet hate. Infuriating. He's a smart player with plenty of ability, but he's also a fair way off AFL level for mine. That said, they named him as an emergency, so he may not be far off getting a taste. 1 Quote
KC from Casey 7,211 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Three Quarter Time: Casey Demons 14.12.96 to Northern Bullants 4.3.27 Goals Van Rooyen 4 M Brown Chandler Dunstan 2 Bedford Laurie Moniz-Wakefield White Dunstan is dominating the possessions. JVR the main goal kicker. 1 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,758 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Are Dunstan, Munro, Baldi and Mitch White effectively Sauntner-ing our young mids? Bedford, Chandler, Laurie even Woewodin are all good enough to get significant midfield minutes. They’d get 25 disposals rather than 15ish. That’s 60% more chances to work on their disposal and decision making. Fair enough to use the big bodies when we’re playing a top side, but against Preston’s collection of Northern footy league level players I don’t think we’re getting the right development here. Good point Last week I mentioned that we are not challenging the younger players enough but there was strong disagreement by some Even a half in a new position every second or third week would do no harm. Winning the VFL flag is nice but it's not the real game Quote
binman 44,788 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Great signs. Smith takes a great pack mark and kicks beautifully to JVR in open space for his fifth 2 Quote
Fritta and Turner 4,688 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 I think we might have this.... 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hannibal Inc. said: van Rooyen is a two-grabber. He also dropped an easy chest mark from a perfect pass. Dropping chest marks is my pet hate. Infuriating. He's a smart player with plenty of ability, but he's also a fair way off AFL level for mine. That said, they named him as an emergency, so he may not be far off getting a taste. Marking anything out at Casey today is near on impossible with the breeze. JVR’s clunked plenty of clean marks this year, and his contesting against an experienced afl defender in Cordy last week was good. But for now Brown or even Weid are more likely to halve contests against good afl defenders due to their size and strength. And Melk is in the other key forward role because he has a seasoned afl tank and 200 games of experience. His positioning and ability to find some uncontested disposals is just superior to a young fella. But in both of those important aspects JVR is building. He’s not far away 3 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,758 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 If you were playing the drinking game for every time the commentator uses the word "spikes" you'd be under the table 1 Quote
Rab D Nesbitt 8,951 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 If the emergencies from last night are playing at Casey today then surely Weeds could've played as well. 7 2 Quote
Gator 18,053 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: Marking anything out at Casey today is near on impossible with the breeze. JVR’s clunked plenty of clean marks this year, and his contesting against an experienced afl defender in Cordy last week was good. But for now Brown or even Weid are more likely to halve contests against good afl defenders due to their size and strength. And Melk is in the other key forward role because he has a seasoned afl tank and 200 games of experience. His positioning and ability to find some uncontested disposals is just superior to a young fella. But in both of those important aspects JVR is building. He’s not far away Against Footscray in slippery conditions he couldn't hold his marks. At the other end Sam Darcy was one-grabbing contested marks in the same greasy conditions. I like JVR and anybody is better than Weideman, but I don't consider him to be presently a strong mark, nor do I think he'll compete well one-on-one against AFL bodies. He is however a very smart player at ground level and very athletic. He's the only 194+cm key forward on our list with a leap. Our key position forward stocks are presently so woeful I'm not against van Rooyen debuting soon. Edited July 30, 2022 by Hannibal Inc. 2 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,758 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Smith getting some touches in this last quarter. The last thing he needs is a bye next week and of course that's what we have Love the cockatoo sound effects 1 1 Quote
Brownie 6,086 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, KC from Casey said: Bedford in the act this quarter That goal in the pocket by Bedford must have been about four or five defensive efforts in a row by him. Just pure guts and persistence when the game was already in the bag. Great goal 5 Quote
Mr Steve 3,820 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Not sure how to judge VFL form but boy oh boy our future looks bright with some of the young kids coming though. Quote
KC from Casey 7,211 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 And that’s a wrap - a whopping 91 point win to the Casey Demons. Luke Dunstan gets leather poisoning with 41 touches. Jacob Van Rooyen comes away with a 5 goal haul. CASEY DEMONS 6.3.39 8.7.55 14.12.96 18.17.125 NORTHERN BULLANTS 0.1.1 4.3.27 4.3.27 5.4.34 Goals Casey Demons Van Rooyen 5 Bedford M Brown 3 Chandler Dunstan 2 Laurie Moniz-Wakefield White Northern Bullants Boyd Honey Kolar Murphy Nikolovski Best Casey Demons Dunstan Munro Van Rooyen Bedford Tomlinson White Baldi Northern Bullants Mackie Velissaris Murphy King Statistics Oskar Baker 1 behind 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 63 dream team points Ryan Baldi 1 behind 10 kicks 10 handballs 20 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 69 dream team points Toby Bedford 3 goals 1 behinds 9 kicks 7 handballs 16 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 86 dream team points Jake Bowey 18 kicks 8 handballs 26 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 94 dream team points Mitch Brown 3 goals 8 kicks 5 handballs 13 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 79 dream team points Matt Buntine 9 kicks 5 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 50 dream team points Kade Chandler 2 goals 1 behind 9 kicks 8 handballs 17 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 77 dream team points Luke Dunstan 2 goals 2 behinds 18 kicks 23 handballs 41 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 135 dream team points Corey Ellison 10 kicks 5 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 57 dream team points Blake Howes 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 52 dream team points Bailey Laurie 1 goal 6 kicks 13 handballs 19 disposals 6 marks 1 tackles 70 dream team points Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 goal 3 kicks 2 handballs 5 disposals 3 marks 25 dream team points James Munro 14 kicks 15 handballs 29 disposals 4 marks 6 tackles 107 dream team points Aiden Quigley 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 44 dream team points Miles Shepherd 7 kicks 4 handballs 11 disposals 4 marks 41 dream team points Joel Smith 1 behind 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 41 dream team points Josh Smith 6 kicks 2 handballs 8 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 24 hit outs 74 dream team points Adam Tomlinson 19 kicks 10 handballs 29 disposals 11 marks 110 dream team points Daniel Turner 1 behind 15 kicks 6 handballs 21 disposals 8 marks 82 dream team points Ryan Valentine 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 8 hit outs 40 dream team points Jacob Van Rooyen 5 goals 8 kicks 4 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 7 hit outs 68 dream team points Mitch White 1 goals 3 behinds 10 kicks 19 handballs 20 disposals 3 marks 69 dream team points Taj Woewodin 9 kicks 5 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 3 tackles 61 dream team points 1 2 Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Pity about the bye next week - another solid JVR game could have been a good lead in for Carlton - NDAF - never debut against filth 1 1 Quote
Demonstone 23,549 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Just now, Mr Steve said: Not sure how to judge VFL form but boy oh boy our future looks bright with some of the young kids coming though. It was the top team belting the bottom team but there was plenty to be pleased about for Demon fans. 1 Quote
Jibroni 5,056 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 Some good selection headaches for next week. Great performance by JVR but the occasion of next week might be too big to debut him just yet. 1 Quote
mo64 5,910 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 I don't get this argument that playing against the Pies in front of a big crowd is not the time to debut JVR. We are bringing him in with the full intention that he will be part of our finals campaign. Some players thrive in the big occasions, some don't. JVR would only have to perform 20% better than Weid last night and it makes our team better. The one thing that JVR shows is that he is a competitor. 5 1 Quote
Ollie fan 3,671 Posted July 30, 2022 Posted July 30, 2022 For goodness’ sake! This is the twos! And against the bottom team! Whenever we have tried Bedford or Chandler or even Dunstan in the firsts they have struggled. I hope as much as anyone that JVR will become a good player but at the moment, he is a boy and playing him against men would be a disaster. 1 1 Quote
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