Obviously the Clarry news has put this in teh background, but i see the Grund situation as being similar as the Oliver albeit that instead of behavioural issues there has been management/expectation issues.

I wonder if it is possible for Goody or the club to put their arms around Brodie and say if we can't find you a home you'll play and shre the No.1 ruck spot with Max (but one or the other won't play every game).

Interesting times.

If teh realationship is dead though i doubt we will play hardball and i can see the above article being correct.

Isn't JJ going to the Swans along with Grunds also?

I think pick 23 is a fair trade.

Edited October 5, 20231 yr by YesitwasaWin4theAges

11 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Isn't JJ going to the Swans along with Grunds also?

I think pick 23 is a fair trade.

JJ costs them nothing...ia a FA

Swans will have to package some picks  ( in effect )  for the Bun.

I suspect some exchanging of picks...    but whatever we end up with will more than likely get used as currency in other pic exchanges etc.

We'll be pragmatic...but we'll get more than the 43 some suppose

25 minutes ago, Cheap Seats said:

Obviously the Clarry news has put this in teh background, but i see the Grund situation as being similar as the Oliver albeit that instead of behavioural issues there has been management/expectation issues.

I wonder if it is possible for Goody or the club to put their arms around Brodie and say if we can't find you a home you'll play and shre the No.1 ruck spot with Max (but one or the other won't play every game).

Interesting times.

If teh realationship is dead though i doubt we will play hardball and i can see the above article being correct.

I would give it one more season, no good back up rucks out there atm, give both boys a full preseason working in the forward half... dunno why we would quit after 15 games or so

6 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I would give it one more season, no good back up rucks out there atm, give both boys a full preseason working in the forward half... dunno why we would quit after 15 games or so

Yeh i agree, Lever and May both took a season (called failures by a lot of Demonlanders) or two before they settled in.

The biggest issue with the combo has been that they both can't play forward or have had litle effect going forward. Would we play only one at a time and can one (for example Max) be played exclusively as a forward in throughout the seaon?

Would another offseason help the duo or have the cards already been stamped?

Edited October 5, 20231 yr by Cheap Seats

18 minutes ago, Cheap Seats said:

Yeh i agree, Lever and May both took a season (called failures by a lot of Demonlanders) or two before they settled in.

The biggest issue with the combo has been that they both can't play forward or have had litle effect going forward. Would we play only one at a time and can one (for example Max) be played exclusively as a forward in throughout the seaon?

Would another offseason help the duo or have the cards already been stamped?

The biggest mistake..imho.. has been trying to get them to be kpf..  dumb as doggy doo if you ask me.  Both...esp Max capable of floating across half back or esp half forward as the link from the rebounds. 

I really dont get why we do this ..either can then pass ( not hail mary lob ) to a REAL  forward on lead etc.

Its footy 101...   baffles me.

Anyway...he's off...  so be it.

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

The biggest mistake..imho.. has been trying to get them to be kpf..  dumb as doggy doo if you ask me.  Both...esp Max capable of floating across half back or esp half forward as the link from the rebounds. 

I really dont get why we do this ..either can then pass ( not hail mary lob ) to a REAL  forward on lead etc.

Its footy 101...   baffles me.

Anyway...he's off...  so be it.

Don't forget that McQualter could do things a little bit differently including Grundy. I would be interested in his ideas.

I have a theory that picks in the early 20s are going to be very useful this draft given the number of 'type' selections available from about 20 to 30, so personally I'd be pretty happy with a pick swap moving our current 33 to Sydney's current 23. Maybe throw in one of their picks in the 40s.

If you compare this draft to an imaginary draft that is perfectly incremental in what is available as you go down the order, I'd say the sweet spots for value are the 4-8 range and the 18-25 range. (counting before concessions go in).

 

 

 

Would love to see him give it one more season, I think we'd be able to make something work.  This year has been a bit strange, not a fair test for Grundy/Gawn in my opinion.  Give it one more year fellas!

1 hour ago, Young Angus said:

Would love to see him give it one more season, I think we'd be able to make something work.  This year has been a bit strange, not a fair test for Grundy/Gawn in my opinion.  Give it one more year fellas!

We didn’t play him ahead of Schache. In a final.

Schache.

Got to be too much water that has now flowed under that bridge. The bridge is  now gone.

Time to move on. If we get a pick in the 20s - great. 30s - sigh. 40s - Argh. 50s - ok, Brodie, you’re sticking around…

4 hours ago, beelzebub said:

JJ costs them nothing...ia a FA

Swans will have to package some picks  ( in effect )  for the Bun.

I suspect some exchanging of picks...    but whatever we end up with will more than likely get used as currency in other pic exchanges etc.

We'll be pragmatic...but we'll get more than the 43 some suppose

I think we need to get another club interested to get a higher premium from the Swans. 

How bout Geelong maybe we can rock tease them a bit to get a bit of talk around Grunds.

Swans are the biggest bunch of vultures who prey on the misfortune of players from other clubs and want players for unders everytime.

Absolute Scrooge's.

Edited October 5, 20231 yr by YesitwasaWin4theAges

4 hours ago, rpfc said:

We didn’t play him ahead of Schache. In a final.

Schache.

Got to be too much water that has now flowed under that bridge. The bridge is  now gone.

Time to move on. If we get a pick in the 20s - great. 30s - sigh. 40s - Argh. 50s - ok, Brodie, you’re sticking around…

Just another possible issue - was Brundy fully fit to play finals?  Injury and tank included?  

I would love to see him at least one more year in the R&B - Max just cannot go around solo for another year.

IMVHO the combination just wasn't worked at smartly enough by the coaching panel - new faces as mentioned above McQualter could bring a fresh view on how it may work.

I guess if we grab someone who can make a go of support ruck ?Chol, things may be different.

3 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I think we need to get another club interested to get a higher premium from the Swans. 

How bout Geelong maybe we can rock tease them a bit to get a bit of talk around Grunds.

Swans are the biggest bunch of vultures who prey on the misfortune of players from other clubs and want players for unders everytime.

Absolute Scrooge's.

Swans are smart list managers I wouldn’t call them scrooges if they can get deals done 

14 hours ago, rpfc said:

We didn’t play him ahead of Schache. In a final.

Schache.

Got to be too much water that has now flowed under that bridge. The bridge is  now gone.

Time to move on. If we get a pick in the 20s - great. 30s - sigh. 40s - Argh. 50s - ok, Brodie, you’re sticking around…

The Super Sub.

5 minutes ago, Super Sub Schache said:

The Super Sub.

12 hours ago, Sydee said:

Swans are smart list managers I wouldn’t call them scrooges if they can get deals done 

I am still hopeful of 11 for Grundy and spices.

We should know fairly early next week.

I would imagine the deal has already been agreed and it will be put through early, to allow concentration by both clubs on other deals.

Edited October 6, 20231 yr by Redleg

19 hours ago, Young Angus said:

Would love to see him give it one more season, I think we'd be able to make something work.  This year has been a bit strange, not a fair test for Grundy/Gawn in my opinion.  Give it one more year fellas!

Totally agree. Hes only been with us 5 minutes and we're already showing him the door. It takes time to settle in to a new club especially one thats in the premiership window with lots of expectations on players.

If Swans play hardball then F...off.

We'll keep BG and Swans can start 2024 with no established ruckman and a mangled Cam Mills. Season cooked. Who cares.!!!!!

beware the swooping magpie

Stay Brodie, the club is going to be better for it and I reckon you'll be much more valuable to the whole team than you realize.

2 hours ago, Young Angus said:

Stay Brodie, the club is going to be better for it and I reckon you'll be much more valuable to the whole team than you realize.

YA you are wasting your time and energy he is GONE! 

I hate Brodie Grundy :(

(not really...but like the kid in Love Actually hates uncle Charlie)

Edited October 6, 20231 yr by Young Angus

We want an early 2nd rounder for Grundy according to foxsports. Can we get 23 off the swans? Could help land us pick 10

Edited October 9, 20231 yr by Nascent

3 hours ago, Nascent said:

We want an early 2nd rounder for Grundy according to foxsports. Can we get 23 off the swans? Could help land us pick 10

23 is a steal. The Swannettes have no Ruckmen 

I will be disappointed if this deal is done quickly. 
Brodie is high currency 

Apparently the filth want the same Pick for Adams

On 10/6/2023 at 11:41 AM, Young Angus said:

Stay Brodie, the club is going to be better for it and I reckon you'll be much more valuable to the whole team than you realize.

They treated him like [censored] why would he stay for  more of the same?

I am waiting to hear his story when  he wins a flag  with the Swans or maybe what May says about him next year

Edited October 9, 20231 yr by IRW