Trade and Free Agency rumours

[58er 5,928]

On 10/3/2022 at 1:37 PM, whatwhat say what said:

dow's kicking is as bad tho

Name some  outside Mids ( other than draftees) who are avslisble in trade at the moment than WSWS.

Realise finishing is very important but the ability to get the ball and run is also super important! 

[Gorgoroth 12,701]

26 minutes ago, 58er said:

Name some  outside Mids ( other than draftees) who are avslisble in trade at the moment than WSWS.

Realise finishing is very important but the ability to get the ball and run is also super important! 

Sure speed and running ability is good, but like we have seen with Hunt all too often over the years if you run fast and far and kick it straight to your opponent who then run the ball back up the other way for a goal…

Give me a player who can get ball make quick decisions and deliver by foot over some one with speed. 
A lot of speedy players get through Jnr years on their quickness and become avg players due to their disposal. So many of them lack composure. 
Not saying Dow would be good or bad, tbh I’ve not really noticed him but I reckon his wage would be a sticking point. 

[58er 5,928]

3 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Sure speed and running ability is good, but like we have seen with Hunt all too often over the years if you run fast and far and kick it straight to your opponent who then run the ball back up the other way for a goal…

Give me a player who can get ball make quick decisions and deliver by foot over some one with speed. 
A lot of speedy players get through Jnr years on their quickness and become avg players due to their disposal. So many of them lack composure. 
Not saying Dow would be good or bad, tbh I’ve not really noticed him but I reckon his wage would be a sticking point. 

It's Hunt vs Spargo or Spargo vs Bedford really isn't it! 

Not sure what Dow is on but he also has a year on contract to go so a mini "Treloar" deal might be needed Gorg.

Its only probably fantasy talk as this is my post only re Dow not much excitement but we need pace and outside run badly IMO. 

[buck_nekkid 5,818]

All this talk of speed… I would prefer POWER.  Being fast and strong enough over 10 m to break a line and be clear enough to deliver a high quality pass.  Headless chook running looks good, but in a contested style happens once or twice a game.

[whatwhat say what 22,119]

Dow hasn’t shown any ability to ‘win’ his own football at afl level and his disposal is atrocious 

Would not go near him personally 

[fr_ap 2,430]

2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

Dow hasn’t shown any ability to ‘win’ his own football at afl level and his disposal is atrocious 

Would not go near him personally 

Agreed, kid sleeps with the lights on

[Redleg 40,085]

9 hours ago, A F said:

My old man just messaged me to say apparently Peter Wright has requested to be traded and that we're interested.

Has anyone heard this or has the old fella gone off the deep end?

Just won B and F.

[layzie 32,802]

9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

Dow hasn’t shown any ability to ‘win’ his own football at afl level and his disposal is atrocious 

Would not go near him personally 

Just isn't tough enough for me. Even Langdon will back into a pack if required. 

[John Demonic 5,501]

30 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

All this talk of speed… I would prefer POWER.  Being fast and strong enough over 10 m to break a line and be clear enough to deliver a high quality pass.  Headless chook running looks good, but in a contested style happens once or twice a game.

So do we recruit Dusty, DeGoey, or Stringer? 

[Turner 1,489]

2 hours ago, 58er said:

Name some  outside Mids ( other than draftees) who are avslisble in trade at the moment than WSWS.

Realise finishing is very important but the ability to get the ball and run is also super important! 

Bonner, Sharp, HClark, Hunter

[layzie 32,802]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

All this talk of speed… I would prefer POWER.  Being fast and strong enough over 10 m to break a line and be clear enough to deliver a high quality pass.  Headless chook running looks good, but in a contested style happens once or twice a game.

You're right, power in the contest and speed off the mark is preferred over who does the best 30 metre dash. Throw in some quick decsion making and consistent target hitting. 

[Turner 1,489]

Turner's predicted wednesday movements:

Tucker/Logue will be finalised

Cordy will join StK

Frampton for that future pick to the pies

GrunDEE

tune back in at 7pm to see how right i am lmao

[Adam The God 29,337]

41 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Just won B and F.

Yep, we both knew that (so did Dunkley), and thought it was huge if true, and anything was possible given Essendon's implosion, but sounds like it was a hoax.

Edited October 4, 2022 by A F

[Demonland 70,255]

 

[Lord Travis 10,457]

No compo for Cordy! Seems a bit rough. He's no world beater, but even a token late pick would be warranted. He played 14 matches at AFL level this year. Surely that counts for something when Liam Jones chose to sit out because he's a plonker and Blues get pick 40 as compo.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Lord Travis said:

No compo for Cordy! Seems a bit rough. He's no world beater, but even a token late pick would be warranted. He played 14 matches at AFL level this year. Surely that counts for something when Liam Jones chose to sit out because he's a plonker and Blues get pick 40 as compo.

It would be because the Dogs signed Liam Jones as a free agent wouldn't it? Compo cancels out.

 

[Lord Travis 10,457]

7 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

It would be because the Dogs signed Liam Jones as a free agent wouldn't it? Compo cancels out.

 

Fair point LN, didn't even consider that! Der! 

[binman 41,945]

3 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

All this talk of speed… I would prefer POWER.  Being fast and strong enough over 10 m to break a line and be clear enough to deliver a high quality pass.  Headless chook running looks good, but in a contested style happens once or twice a game.

I would prefer above average kicking skills.

Teams look quick when they hit targets regularly by foot.

And look slow when they don't as they can be exposed on turnover because players have pushed ahead of the ball on the expectation/hope the disposal chain won't break.

When the disposal chain breaks often multiple players are out of position and have double back and chase tail

[demoniac 1,295]

6 minutes ago, binman said:

I would prefer above average kicking skills.

Teams look quick when they hit targets regularly by foot.

And look slow when they don't as they can be exposed on turnover because players have pushed ahead of the ball on the expectation/hope the disposal chain won't break.

When the disposal chain breaks often multiple players are out of position and have double back and chase tail

We need to be able to move the ball quickly by accurate passing AND by footspeed. 

[binman 41,945]

3 minutes ago, demoniac said:

We need to be able to move the ball quickly by accurate passing AND by footspeed. 

During our 10 zip run i heard several commentators note how quick we were

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

4 minutes ago, binman said:

During our 10 zip run i heard several commentators note how quick we were

Are you saying we are a fast team? Or are you just repeating narratives from games where everyone is a world beater?

[Adam The God 29,337]

Just now, Cheap Seats said:

Are you saying we are a fast team? Or are you just repeating narratives from games where everyone is a world beater?

It's pretty obvious what @binman is saying. That when we move the ball quickly, we are quick. Quick ball movement is much more effective than running the ball quickly...

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Just now, A F said:

It's pretty obvious what @binman is saying. That when we move the ball quickly, we are quick. Quick ball movement is much more effective than running the ball quickly...

Sure cheif, anytime a team wins they are world beaters, that in itself is an obvious statement.

The reality is though we are not. Collingwood, Geelong and Sydney exposed us outside of the contest. We are not a fast side even if we look fast when we beat up on sides early in the season.

 

[Axis of Bob 11,161]

1 minute ago, Cheap Seats said:

The reality is though we are not. Collingwood, Geelong and Sydney exposed us outside of the contest. We are not a fast side even if we look fast when we beat up on sides early in the season.

Were we fast last year?

[Damo 3,238]

I need to ask my annual question. Define quick and fast ball movement please.