CHANGES: Rd 16 vs Adelaide

[DeeSpencer 25,444]

2 hours ago, Jontee said:

Um I dont think Bowey is in the side to win aerial contests. Often he stays out of them.

I think his form of late has been ordinary, perhaps Rivers in.....

He’s generally won his 1 on 1’s when needed, it’s a big part of his game. Seeing him get out marked by McCluggage is insulting and Bowser will know that. 

Riv needs his speed and run 100% back to really get that spot. 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,687]

No changes unless injuries or illness require. Salem was hobbling badly in the first but played on. I presume it was a corky. Hopefully he pulls up OK and is right to go. However, if he's not, I would have thought Hunt to replace him rather than Rivers. (It's nice to have genuine choices, though.)

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

14 hours ago, bluey said:

Need a tall forward, that’s clear.

Yes unfortunately there isn't one.  BBB still a work in progress.  Let's see how he goes against the lowly Crows.

The only other tallish possibilty is Tomlinson and can't see that happening.

14 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Bowey is really struggling at the moment. Rivers might be a better option.

Young fellas are always going to have some ups and downs.  No different here.  I don't think he's going badly enough to say "drop him" but in a managed sense on such a short break a managed option could be worth looking at for a bit ofna break and reset for Rivers.

Otherwise no changes for mine.

[Young Blood 2,575]

Bowey is perfectly fine.

Thought he was one of the few who played well against Collingwood.

Are people basing his game on how much he had the ball? With Salem and May back he's not going to be as much a focal as a distributor across half-back. Just needs to keep doing what he does, carry out his role in our defensive structure, provide a contest and make the right decisions with his disposal. 

Unlike Rivers he rarely gets caught out of position. Rivers has struggled early on this season and needs to build on form in the two's. Last week was a step in the right direction. 

For what its worth I would say Rivers have most pressure on Hibberds spot/role. Coaching staff adore what Bowey does.

[titan_uranus 24,970]

I don't at all see the need to drop Bowey. We performed superbly last night, let's leave them and see if they can generate consistency into next week and then Geelong the week after.

The only major consideration is to ensure we're OK for the 5-day break going into the Geelong game.

For that reason alone, Gawn shouldn't play this week. Skip the Adelaide game, ensure he's fully fit, then return for Geelong.

15 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Out BBB continued his woeful form.  Got outmarked again & again. In Tomlinson. Has to be an improvement.

He was much better last night. Yes, Andrews took a number of intercept marks, but at the game Brown's leading and work-rate looked much better than in the month before the bye. He also got us into the game in the first half when the game was at its hottest.

Tomlinson hasn't played forward since he joined us and won't be an improvement on Brown in anyway.

[monoccular 17,413]

15 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Bowey is really struggling at the moment. Rivers might be a better option.

 

15 hours ago, DEE fence said:

+1 Rivers for Bowey, more in honour  of how Riv has been playing in the 2’s. Bowey can freshen up.

Wouldn’t see Bowey as struggling.  The whole defensive unit was down the previous three weeks, as a unit.  
And given the competition for small medium defenders positions, “a week off to freshen up” could mean he would not get back for a long time. 

[leave it to deever 17,511]

15 hours ago, bluey said:

Need a tall forward, that’s clear.

Yep.

Weid took.one mark and kicked np goals.

Maybe after stringing  a few games he'll get better. 

[old55 23,372]

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

He’s generally won his 1 on 1’s when needed, it’s a big part of his game. Seeing him get out marked by McCluggage is insulting and Bowser will know that. 

Riv needs his speed and run 100% back to really get that spot. 

Are you serious? McCluggage 185cm vs Bowey 176cm, and McC is a very good player.

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

16 hours ago, bluey said:

Need a tall forward, that’s clear.

Respect this, wouldn't it be great if Weideman just started to play last night's role and it ended up being Carey Mk2..

[Demon4Life 603]

Let Gawn have another week off.

I thought Bowey's confidence was looking seriously shaken in the past few weeks as he learnt what it was like to lose - coughing up the ball, shirking contests, showing indecision - but last night he did all we could have asked of him and looked more like the 17 game undefeated champion we've all come to know and love, so I say keep him in.

It will be interesting to see how Viney pulls up. That was a hard hit he took and my first thought when I saw him on the ground was he'd ripped his hammy off the bone. Obviously he shook it off and played out the game as though nothing had happened but it may be a different story today. If he goes out we will have to bring Dunstan back in and just hope his poor disposal doesn't hurt us too much.

The other question is Salem. Hopefully he's fine but we have either Rivers or Hunt to come in if we need them. I imagine since Hunt was the sub he is seen as next in line, but by all accounts Riv has been improving during his time in the twos and it wouldn't worry me if we brought him in.

Forward line stays as it is.

[Smokey 4,388]

No. Change. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

Yep.

Weid took.one mark and kicked np goals.

Maybe after stringing  a few games he'll get better. 

In terms of his assignment though Deever i suspect he might have met the coaches' requirements last night.

It wasn't all about how he performed up forward as he also spent a fair amount of time rucking against andre' the giant and wasn't too shabby at all here IMV.

Edited June 24, 2022 by Demon Dynasty

[Billy 2,521]

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

Yep.

Weid took.one mark and kicked np goals.

Maybe after stringing  a few games he'll get better. 

Weid was ok, just needs a couple of games, played his role, but agree it would be nice if he could clunk a few marks & kick a couple of goals a game 

[WERRIDEE 5,443]

I'm all for no change but if Gawn's fit he must play no resting him we can't take Adelaide lightly they put a dent in our season last year on their home turf they won't be a pushover.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 hour ago, Smokey said:

No. Change. 

@Demonstone, this means this poster wants change right?

[layzie 33,749]

Need to not rush Gawn. 

[Smokey 4,388]

48 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

@Demonstone, this means this poster wants change right?

You have to figure it out for yourself, phoning a friend is not an option 

[dazzledavey36 54,245]

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

He’s generally won his 1 on 1’s when needed, it’s a big part of his game. Seeing him get out marked by McCluggage is insulting and Bowser will know that. 

Riv needs his speed and run 100% back to really get that spot. 

Insulting that he got out marked by a 24 year old, 118 game veteran and All Australian midfielder?

I think your post towards Bowey regarding this is far more insulting. 

[Bobby McKenzie 2,383]

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

@Demonstone, this means this poster wants change right?

One little dot makes all the difference. Joys of punctuation!

[DeeSpencer 25,444]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Insulting that he got out marked by a 24 year old, 118 game veteran and All Australian midfielder?

I think your post towards Bowey regarding this is far more insulting. 

I’m giving Bowey credit for being a great overhead player for his size. Reads it perfectly, super leap, knows how to use his body for leverage.

McCluggage is a great player but he’s not known for his marking at all. Insulting was a bit tongue and cheek but I’d back Bowser to win or half aerial contests against him most of the time. 

Anyway, was just an example of how Bowey is playing well but a little below his best IMO. 

[Maldonboy38 6,390]

No change, unless Salem is still a bit proppy. If he is, Hunt comes in. 

No way does Rivers come back yet. He in particular was in rare horrible form prior to the bye and has to earn his way back in. 

Bedford gives us another option and his pace is a serious point of difference. We are not a particularly quick team.

If Max tries to come back early, I'm going to sneak Ipecac into his double strength chai latte. Jackson and Weideman are a fine team to play their roles until Max heals FULLY.

[Dave1711 145]

There will be no change

[Dees2014 2,377]

On 6/23/2022 at 10:55 PM, DeeSpencer said:

The 5 day break in to the Geelong game should be the main factor when evaluating changes.

There’s at least an argument for Hibberd and/or Bowey and Bedford coming out this week with a guarantee of coming back the next week. Maybe even Sparrow as well. Or Ben Brown if we want to be really cautious.

Although the more likely thing is they play and we see how everyone is going in a weeks time. 

The melbourne way has been we select on merit. It has proved to be successful in the past, at least recently, and in my view should not change it. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

5 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

The melbourne way has been we select on merit. It has proved to be successful in the past, at least recently, and in my view should not change it. 

Most of the time 2014.  I wouldn't say that's an iron clad g'tee in any club.  There will always be the odd favourite/s that appear.to be picked ahead of others that,  to some or many, appear to be chosen without any merit whatsoever.

Edited June 24, 2022 by Demon Dynasty

[Chelly 810]

We all know that Goodwin tends to the conservative side when it comes to team selection so it will most likely be no change even down to the sub assuming Jayden Hunt gets through today’s game with Casey.

Given that there’s a five day break between our trips to Adelaide and Geelong, Max is likely to play the latter if he’s fit to go by then (it would also be at the lower end of his initial diagnosis).