CHANGES: Rd 16 vs Adelaide

[jnrmac 18,451]

On 6/25/2022 at 11:02 AM, sisso said:

100% agree in as much he’s too good for VFL and has a real impact for us whenever he plays

He has only hit the ground 5 times. Plus 7 x the sub where he hasn't played.

Doesn't look overawed at all. Slotted straight in 

[monoccular 15,325]

1 hour ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Best 23 maybe but not 22 in my view. At least not 2022 Rivers. The best of Salem, Gus, Hibbo, Bowey has him covered this year and I dont see another defensive rotation. A full preseason and another year in his body he will back in our best. 

There is still a lot of water to flow under the bridge for 2022 - sure they have him [Rivers] covered, for now.

But Hunt, Rivers are there and applying pressure.  And even poor Joel Smith, if he ever gets an injury free run, is in the mix.

 

[DEE fence 4,059]

On 6/24/2022 at 12:24 PM, Maldonboy38 said:

No change, unless Salem is still a bit proppy. If he is, Hunt comes in. 

No way does Rivers come back yet. He in particular was in rare horrible form prior to the bye and has to earn his way back in. 

Bedford gives us another option and his pace is a serious point of difference. We are not a particularly quick team.

If Max tries to come back early, I'm going to sneak Ipecac into his double strength chai latte. Jackson and Weideman are a fine team to play their roles until Max heals FULLY.

2 of 3 am with you, however Rivers has been BOG in the 2's and his drive has looked brilliant, so I think he has dialed it back in. I like Bedford's speed and he is dog hungry and not second guessing himself with shots at goal, that enthusiasm is good for the others that still have the yips. And I want Max rested for Geelong, they will merde themselves at Skilled seeing him down there, he lives in Blicav's head and I know Scott still has bad dreams. I also think Max has more than one injury healing.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

What I want to see continue is Bedford building a body of work in the role he played Thursday night. He absolutely deserves to retain his spot and could be an important component of the team in this years flag tilt. 

The other thing is to play Weideman in kahoots  with Dogga whilst Maxy' recuperating.

Who knows but this could be the circuit breaker role that elevates Weed to the contributor that we've been crying out for.

I thought he was far from disgraced as the second ruck against the Lions.

[dee-tox 4,494]

3 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

 

I thought he was far from disgraced as the second ruck against the Lions.

If Jake Spencer is the standard then he didn't disgrace himself.

Otherwise, a one mark, 10 disposal game with two relatively simple misses on goal doesn't quite do it for me.

[Boots and all 850]

A question regarding Rivers performance on the weekend if I might? I only managed to see a shortened version, hacked to bits on the AFL app. Unfortunately for Riv, all I saw was him absolutely butchering the ball twice. How was the rest of his game?

[adonski 8,547]

2 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

A question regarding Rivers performance on the weekend if I might? I only managed to see a shortened version, hacked to bits on the AFL app. Unfortunately for Riv, all I saw was him absolutely butchering the ball twice. How was the rest of his game?

He seems unable to kick a regulation drop punt anymore...which is odd

[pitmaster 2,877]

35 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

If Jake Spencer is the standard then he didn't disgrace himself.

Otherwise, a one mark, 10 disposal game with two relatively simple misses on goal doesn't quite do it for me.

Weird did much more than those stats suggest - good physical presence in the ruck, several clean taps to advantage. Showed improvement without getting among the goals. Played his role.

[John Demonic 4,597]

55 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

If Jake Spencer is the standard then he didn't disgrace himself.

Otherwise, a one mark, 10 disposal game with two relatively simple misses on goal doesn't quite do it for me.

Poor Jake. Had a great opportunity to have 5-10 game spell at senior footy and boost his trade value and career prospects, but I recall he overestimated his abilities by diving head first  into a Richmond player for a tackle (instead of keeping his feet) and he wiped himself out for 3 months and that was that.

Edited June 26, 2022 by John Demonic

[Demon Dynasty 14,017]

Bedford must stay in in my view.  He's effectively the forward version of the Bowey inclusion in late 2021.

[Supreme_Demon 2,951]

No changes unless there are injuries.

Toby Bedford is starting to play with confidence and realising he can be an AFL player!

 

[Willmoy1947 3,605]

Please make sure our defence is right..

[Pates 9,364]

11 hours ago, dee-tox said:

If Jake Spencer is the standard then he didn't disgrace himself.

Otherwise, a one mark, 10 disposal game with two relatively simple misses on goal doesn't quite do it for me.

Looking at the disposal stats for Weids game on Thursday would be completely unfair to him. He competed hard, and in ruck contests I felt he was at absolute worst 50/50 with his direct opponent. He used his body, did teams things, to me it looked like a much improved version of Weid and certainly something to build on. 

[layzie 27,039]

11 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Bedford must stay in in my view.  He's effectively the forward version of the Bowey inclusion in late 2021.

Without a doubt he goes again this week!

[old dee 22,463]

2 hours ago, Pates said:

Looking at the disposal stats for Weids game on Thursday would be completely unfair to him. He competed hard, and in ruck contests I felt he was at absolute worst 50/50 with his direct opponent. He used his body, did teams things, to me it looked like a much improved version of Weid and certainly something to build on. 

He is a relief ruckman not a KPF. His only hope of playing in a GF at the MFC is through injury. Sad but IMO true. On Thursdays play he stays in till Max returns. How come we are playing on the weekend next week? Must be an error! 

[DeeSpencer 22,048]

4 hours ago, Pates said:

Looking at the disposal stats for Weids game on Thursday would be completely unfair to him. He competed hard, and in ruck contests I felt he was at absolute worst 50/50 with his direct opponent. He used his body, did teams things, to me it looked like a much improved version of Weid and certainly something to build on. 

He’s a top 3 handballer in the team too. Can use both hands and understands how to handball on the up. If he can break even in the ruck, crash packs and fire off a few lovely handballs he doesn’t have to hit the scoreboard. 

[bluey 736]

The Weed applies a lot of blocks and shepherds, he is also very popular amongst the playing group as well.

That all counts.

[Sir Why You Little 33,248]

On 6/23/2022 at 7:27 PM, Cranky Franky said:

Out BBB continued his woeful form.  Got outmarked again & again. In Tomlinson. Has to be an improvement.

That is a shocking call Crank

BBB was very busy early, when Brisvegas were still having a go

[At the break of Gawn 3,368]

19 hours ago, DubDee said:

And a 6 day break Vs our 9 day break

thats their entire fwd line!

Walker will get up to play us. He hates Melbourne and would love nothing more to knock us off again at home.

[buck_nekkid 5,328]

24 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Walker will get up to play us. He hates Melbourne and would love nothing more to knock us off again at home.

Walker seems to hate everyone who is not him

[buck_nekkid 5,328]

Fwiw, i watched the replay with a focus on our talls.  They all did well at crashing packs, halving contests knocking the ball to advantage.  Weid put his body into contests like we haven’t seen before, he competed cleverly in most ruck contests.  BBB looked better and worked harder too.  jacko is doing fine at plumping his value.

I suggest wer go unchanged until MAx is right,  the smaller forward setup with different use of the talls seemed to work well for us.

[deebunked 224]

Mitch Brown played an absolute blinder in  the VFL on Sat. Frustrating he cant go to the next level.

No change for the creepy trip to Karak.

Gawn can rest up at home. We need him for gloomy  dark Mordor.

Great draw we have. Nothing changes.

[Bring-Back-Powell 12,350]

The Walker/Fogarty combo requires some consideration given they kicked 10 between them yesterday.

Whilst they were playing nobody yesterday, 10 goals is still 10 goals and both were instrumental when they beat us last year, with Tex kicking the winning goal.

We did well against Brisbane's big "3" last week but all three are yet to hit peak form/fitness yet. These Adelaide blokes are at the top of their game.

If we were to somehow lose to Adelaide next week, I'd imagine these two lads would've had a big say in the result.

[Lord Nev 13,510]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That is a shocking call Crank

BBB was very busy early, when Brisvegas were still having a go

If you call 2 behinds "very busy" I guess...

[Bring-Back-Powell 12,350]

Just now, deebunked said:

Mitch Brown played an absolute blinder in  the VFL on Sat. Frustrating he cant go to the next level.

No change for the creepy trip to Karak.

Gawn can rest up at home. We need him for gloomy  dark Mordor.

Great draw we have. Nothing changes.

Agree with your first point about Mitch Brown. Just doesn't have what it takes anymore to be a regular AFL player.

With your last point, in fairness Geelong also have a five day break too. I expect multiple Geelong restings given they have North at home next weekend.