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23 hours ago, bluey said:

Out

Brown, he’s cooked 

Melksham , he’s done

Petracca, soft front runner

Dunstan , not hard enough

In

Tomlinson

Baker

Rosman

Laurie

 

 

Bluey have you been watching much of the Casey games of late?

Tomo yes but Rosman & Laurie are a fair way off (if they get there and im not saying they wont at some stage.... certainly won't be this week though).

Baker is about a 10 to 1 shot for a guernsey me thinks but hey, you never know!  Not many other options for a Lingers fill in if he doesn't get up.  I reckon he'll get up 😁

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    Interesting that Weid has been thrown around again.

    Not sure if trying to fill a spot or hide him, possibly a bit of both as he was ineffectual in all roles.

    BUT  I reckon his biggest problem is a confidence one. He plays like he doesn't want to get in the way and seems to be in the wrong spot most of the time.

    I still reckon he can make it as he has played some good matches when he has had an identified role as key forward or ruck. He worked well with Brown in the Casey team when they rolled around each other as equals. Now that he is seen as the reserve for Brown, Tmac, Max or Jacko he seems uncertain what to do.

    id say to him make yourself the significant player, lead into space and demand the ball. Don't be static,  keep moving and leap into contests with the opposition, or into packs only with momentum. Don't wait for the ball to come to you, attack the ball. Wether he needs to do that at Casey again or for mine he does it by telling his premiership winning teammates that that is what he is going to do to join them and confidenty proving it in the ones.

    BUT whichever unless he steps up in confidence I regret he may be another with promise who just doesn't make it.

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    Goody on SEN said we will get back all of Langdon, McDonald, Harmes and Salem this week. Didn't specify if Salem would come back via the VFL or not.

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    7 hours ago, dpositive said:

    Interesting that Weid has been thrown around again.

    Not sure if trying to fill a spot or hide him, possibly a bit of both as he was ineffectual in all roles.

    BUT  I reckon his biggest problem is a confidence one. He plays like he doesn't want to get in the way and seems to be in the wrong spot most of the time.

    I still reckon he can make it as he has played some good matches when he has had an identified role as key forward or ruck. He worked well with Brown in the Casey team when they rolled around each other as equals. Now that he is seen as the reserve for Brown, Tmac, Max or Jacko he seems uncertain what to do.

    id say to him make yourself the significant player, lead into space and demand the ball. Don't be static,  keep moving and leap into contests with the opposition, or into packs only with momentum. Don't wait for the ball to come to you, attack the ball. Wether he needs to do that at Casey again or for mine he does it by telling his premiership winning teammates that that is what he is going to do to join them and confidenty proving it in the ones.

    BUT whichever unless he steps up in confidence I regret he may be another with promise who just doesn't make it.

    Unfortunately for Sam, other than a handful of games, he has never shown much “confidence”. And if it is the case that he he is unsure of what to do out there, then that in itself is a huge problem for someone in their seventh year. It is becoming clearer every time he plays that he seems unable to make that jump between VFL and AFL. Time for the future, not the past, Van Rooyen should be given opportunity before Weid.

    13 minutes ago, Nascent said:

    Goody on SEN said we will get back all if Langdon, McDonald, Harmes and Salem this week. Didn't specify if Salem would come back via the VFL or not.

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    If Petty is out along with May, I'm more than comfortable for T Mac to play down back along with Tomlinson who appears an obvious in. T Mac is an excellent one on one defender who is hard to be out marked.

    Of course allowing T Mac to go down back  is predicated on BBB and Weid having more than 3 possessions between them, and dare we say it, Brown kicking a goal or 2 which is what we brought him in for from North.

     

    41 minutes ago, Nascent said:

    Goody on SEN said we will get back all if Langdon, McDonald, Harmes and Salem this week. Didn't specify if Salem would come back via the VFL or not.

    Wouldn't have thought that Salem returns via the vfl

    9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    If Petty is out along with May, I'm more than comfortable for T Mac to play down back along with Tomlinson who appears an obvious in. T Mac is an excellent one on one defender who is hard to be out marked.

    Of course allowing T Mac to go down back  is predicated on BBB and Weid having more than 3 possessions between them, and dare we say it, Brown kicking a goal or 2 which is what we brought him in for from North.

     

    I’d just bring Tomlinson in but I’d say T Mac will be needed forward with the way Weed performed on the weekend .  

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    20 minutes ago, ucanchoose said:

    Wouldn't have thought that Salem returns via the vfl

    Would normally agree but 3 months of no footy or match fitness puts a big ? on that. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a half or 3/4 of a game at Casey before coming in the following week.

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    14 hours ago, stinga said:

    Not looking good.  Injuries are taking a toll across the club - Only 11 melbourne players available for Casey today.   Only D.Smith and Thomlinson had stats that would in any way suggest a promotion.

    Tough next 3 weeks with lots playing sore and until some come back from injuries.  Great the bye is coming up.

    Turner says “hello”. Was clearly one of the best players for Casey.

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    4 minutes ago, Heart Beats True said:

    Turner says “hello”. Was clearly one of the best players for Casey.

    As much as Turner was close to BOG yesterday it was only his 3rd game back from injury. 

    I would like to see him back up another performance like that in the VFL especially against a team with AFL listed KPF's.

    He definitely tracking in the right way though!

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    11 hours ago, Nascent said:

    Out: May, Melksham

    In: Tomlinson, Langdon

    One of Brown or Weideman will most likely come out for McDonald pending the fitness of Petty. If Petty misses due to injury, McDonald to play back and Brown and Weideman get a reprieve.

     No Weed. I'd prefer to see Joel Smith in there, up forward (if available). If Majak can play, he's thoroughly worth a try, as well on two fronts: Height, Marking, Physical Presence, Lining up the  big sticks for a goal, and Rucking duties to the smalls (that would include protection for them from the  Swans' defenders.

     

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    9 hours ago, dpositive said:

    Interesting that Weid has been thrown around again.

    Not sure if trying to fill a spot or hide him, possibly a bit of both as he was ineffectual in all roles.

    BUT  I reckon his biggest problem is a confidence one. He plays like he doesn't want to get in the way and seems to be in the wrong spot most of the time.

    I still reckon he can make it as he has played some good matches when he has had an identified role as key forward or ruck. He worked well with Brown in the Casey team when they rolled around each other as equals. Now that he is seen as the reserve for Brown, Tmac, Max or Jacko he seems uncertain what to do.

    id say to him make yourself the significant player, lead into space and demand the ball. Don't be static,  keep moving and leap into contests with the opposition, or into packs only with momentum. Don't wait for the ball to come to you, attack the ball. Wether he needs to do that at Casey again or for mine he does it by telling his premiership winning teammates that that is what he is going to do to join them and confidenty proving it in the ones.

    BUT whichever unless he steps up in confidence I regret he may be another with promise who just doesn't make it.

    Seven years alongside notably well-pronged forwards and greatly improved ball transfers into the hot zone with noted supports from both smalls and mobile 'bigs'. It ain't a confidence thing at all, it is a skill deficiency.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Obviously the big 4 come in, Tmac, Salem, Ed and Harmes (if ready) plus Tomlinson who Goody has already flagged. Id say 5 changes is probs the biggest amount of changes for some time just as a side note.

    The outs compounded our structure and watching it live, for the first time in a while, players looked lost, especially down back, just interesting to observe. Think Spargo playing higher didnt help fwd connection. Get back to basics this week. Contest, clearance and strong defense. that will open up the fwd line.

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    10 hours ago, dpositive said:

    Interesting that Weid has been thrown around again.

    Not sure if trying to fill a spot or hide him, possibly a bit of both as he was ineffectual in all roles.

    Gee lets think hard???

    May goes down, Petty does an ankle, TMac not playing and their talls are marking everything that is going their way.

    Can't for the life of me think of why Weid was sent down back. 

    Maybe because he was ripping it up in the forward line.....

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    1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

     No Weed. I'd prefer to see Joel Smith in there, up forward (if available). If Majak can play, he's thoroughly worth a try, as well on two fronts: Height, Marking, Physical Presence, Lining up the  big sticks for a goal, and Rucking duties to the smalls (that would include protection for them from the  Swans' defenders.

     

    We don't gift games and with Tmac coming back ,Probably won't happen but I'd be happy to see Majak given a go. He has been there 2 years, better ruck than Weid has played back for extended periods at North and has athletism to play on different types. Also a better presence than Weid if forward.

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    5 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

    We don't gift games and with Tmac coming back ,Probably won't happen but I'd be happy to see Majak given a go. He has been there 2 years, better ruck than Weid has played back for extended periods at North and has athletism to play on different types. Also a better presence than Weid if forward.

    Majak was a late withdrawal out yesterday for Casey due to illness.

    Langdon, Harmes, Salem and T Mac should all come in. 

    Salem to come in and play a role on limited minutes. He is needed. His ball use and the energy he brings is needed. 

    We need to get back to playing our system and that requires players playing their best positions. Gusand Langdon back to a wing, Salem on a flank, Spargo to half forward. 

    I expect a big response from Max and Luke this week. They were embarrassed on the weekend and that's two down weeks in a row for Max. 

    Stand up, it's a Saturday night game and I want a response. 

     

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    Can't see Salem coming straight back in. He has missed far too much footy and it's a big risk to throw him straight back into AFL footy. 

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    IN Tomlinson Harmes Salem Langdon T Mac

    OUT May Melksham Dunstan Bedford Weideman 

    Bedford stiff. Considered Rivers over him
    If petty injured Weed stays in. T Mac to play down back 

    the 22 will look better next week despite May out


    Do we have any info on if Petty is likely to get up and play? 

    assuming Petty is just a bit sore i'd go with 

    Out: May, Melksham, Weideman, Bedford, Dunstan

    In: Tommlinson, McDonald, Langdon, Harmes, Salem

    Potentially Trent Rivers becomes the Sub?

     

    2 hours ago, ucanchoose said:

    Wouldn't have thought that Salem returns via the vfl

    He's been out for 11 games. As much as I'd love him back in the side, you don't want him blowing up in the last quarter with the game in the balance.

    I'm assuming Petty misses next week under worst case scenario.

    Langdon in for Melksham

    T Mac and Tomlinson in to play May and Pettys role.

    Harmes in for Bedford. Stiff on Bedford, but he needed to do more than just the two nice goals he kicked.

    Dunstan drops out of the 22.

    If Petty plays next week, then T Mac goes forward and either BBB or Weid get dropped. BBB might need to get some form for Casey. It worked for T Mac.

    Any chance Jackson can take a contested mark for someone of his height?

     

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    Busy week for Match Committee this week. There's a real chance we might see one or two new faces against Sydney, depending on who's ready to return. Imagine, for example, if none of McDonald, Langdon, Harmes, Salem, Petty and May are fit to play? We shouldn't really be playing Melksham or Weideman but might need to. I could  also see players such as Laurie or Rosman getting a chance, if they've been playing well enough for Casey.

    My best guess is that May and Melksham will go out for McDonald and Langdon (and Dunstan as medi-sub). If this happens, one of Weideman or McDonald will have to play in defence.

    Edit: Just saw the post that said that Goodwin on radio said all of Salem, Harmes, Langdon and McDonald will be good to go. If Salem plays, does Brayshaw go back to the wing, in which case Rivers stays? Or does Rivers have a rest and we keep Jordon on the wing? I'd suggest keep Bryahsaw in defence given that Jordon has consistently been one of our best in the last few weeks.

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    Happy for BBB to stay in, yes he's had 2 ineffective games in a row, we fell apart on the weekend, forward connection non-existent  and were missing several key cogs. If he's still struggling after everyone has come back, then maybe get him to Casey for a week or two. 

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    I'm not sure everyone understands how important a fit TMAC is to our forward structure, I'd be surprised he if he doesn't start in the forward line. His engine and mobility are invaluable. Can go back if absolutely has to.

    BBB worst game for a Dee, stunk last few weeks. Weid another week for me.

    Franklin is out so we maybe bring in Tomlinson to play on L McDonald. Lever to play loose and one on one depending on circumstances and the 2 rucks just float back. Chance of rain also so a tall defensive unit may not be necessary. I'm also assuming Petty has a rest.

    In Harmes, Langdon, Tomlinson, TMac, Salem

    Out: May, Petty, BBB, Dunstan, Rivers, Melksham

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