NON-MFC: Round 6, 2022

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

2 hours ago, DEE fence said:

Minor correction,  I don't think any team is top 8 material after they play us.

I like the title of their Post-Match thread.

Canny Crows take a giant dump on dopey dogs from up high. 63-62.

[BoBo 2,941]

1 hour ago, Chook said:

Nick Riewoldt (who of course has gone through just this) seemed to think self-preservation kicks in at a certain point - like "I don't want to be hurt like that again" so you don't work quite as hard, commit quite as much, and so on.

Ahhh right. And if that only happens to 3-4 good players on your list, that’s probably enough to see a drop off.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,843]

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

Make it a multi with May perpetually kicking out to the left HBF. Nothing surer in life

What would be offered on the following 24 leg multi?

1. Dogs loosing the free lick count,
2. May kicking to the right,
3. Daniher kicking a goal from 15 metres in front,
4. Malthouse behaving like a top bloke,
5. Dermott stringing together three sentences culminating in a comprehendible paragraph,
6. The AFL admitting its ticketing regime is shiiiiite,
7. Selwood not getting a free kicking for ducking next week,
8. Viney squibbing the hard ball,
9. Any AFL footballer not saying at the end of game interview, "we knew they'd come out hard",
10. Eddie saying "we are racist at Colinwood",
11. Brock saying, "I was only pulling your leg",
12. Neeld saying, "I got it wrong",
13. Toby saying "Matt and I are as tight as a Russian bodybuilder's quads",
14. Any AFL footballer not answering a question in the next week beginning with 'yeah/nah',
15. Gary Rohan being best on ground in a final,
16. Goodwin saying "it was an error of judgement to trade with Norf for Jackson and Pickett",
17. Fyfe, Bailey Smith and Natanui getting proper haircuts,
18. Papley buying some shorts that actually fit,
19. Razor Ray not imposing himself on a game in 2022,
20. Gryan Miers changing his name by deed poll,
21. Mitch McGovern saying "here's a $500,000 refund",
22. Tom Hawkins pipped at the post for the 2023 Oscar for Best Actor,
23. The AFL saying, "we got it wrong with the Giants and GCS", and finally,
24. The Deez are no chance in 2002.

Edited April 23, 2022 by Queanbeyan Demon
Typo

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

5 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Ahhh right. And if that only happens to 3-4 good players on your list, that’s probably enough to see a drop off.

Port Adelaide showed it all over the ground in last year’s Preliminary Final. 
None of them wanted a hard ball

[darkhorse72 1,916]

1 hour ago, BDA said:

I love seeing West Coast getting belted. High on my wish list is to see the Dees smash them by 100 points. At Optus

I really enjoyed being at Subi for this game Round 22, 2000

 

West Coast  5.1   8.3  10.6 15.10 100

Melbourne  4.4  13.5  19.9 26.14 170

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

32 minutes ago, Macca said:

For instance, as you and most others know, the handpass used to require a clenched fist punching the ball from another hand/arm that was stationary

Not stationary. Nowhere in the rules does it say "stationary", nor has it ever.

Regardless, why are blatant throws that are throws in anyone's language not called?

 

32 minutes ago, Macca said:

And it's gone way past blaming the umps ... this is a rules of the game issue which is an AFL issue

If only there was some branch or arm of the AFL that was responsible for enforcing the rules in the AFL comp. Perhaps we could encourage them to look into these matters.

[Demon Disciple 12,118]

8 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

What would be offered on the following 24 leg multi?

1. Dogs loosing the free lick count,
2. May kicking to the right,
3. Daniher kicking a goal from 15 metres in front,
4. Malthouse behaving like a top bloke,
5. Dermott stringing together three sentences culminating in a comprehendible paragraph,
6. The AFL admitting its ticketing regime is shiiiiite,
7. Selwood not getting a free kicking for ducking next week,
8. Viney squibbing the hard ball,
9. Any AFL footballer not saying at the end of game interview, "we knew they'd come out hard",
10. Eddie saying "we are racist at Colinwood",
11. Brock saying, "I was only pulling your leg",
12. Neeld saying, "I got it wrong",
13. Toby saying "Matt and I are as tight as a Russian bodybuilder's quads",
14. Any AFL footballer not answering a question in the next week beginning with 'yeah/nah',
15. Gary Rohan being best on ground in a final,
16. Goodwin saying "it was an error of judgement to trade with Norf for Jackson and Pickett",
17. Fyfe, Bailey Smith and Natanui getting proper haircuts,
18. Papley buying some shorts that actually fit,
19. Razor Ray not imposing himself on a game in 2022,
20. Gryan Miers changing his name by deed poll,
21. Mitch McGovern saying "here's a $500,000 refund",
22. Tom Hawkins pipped at the post for the 2023 Oscar for Best Actor,
23. The AFL saying, "we go it wrong with the Giants and GCS", and finally,
24. The Deez are no chance in 2002.

I don’t think such a number even exists.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,500]

6 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

I really enjoyed being at Subi for this game Round 22, 2000

 

West Coast  5.1   8.3  10.6 15.10 100

Melbourne  4.4  13.5  19.9 26.14 170

 

S.Woewodin… 2 votes.

 

 

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

Almost a throw 

Stop Saying that Hamish

IT WAS A THROW

[Demon Disciple 12,118]

3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

S.Woewodin… 2 votes.

[Macca 16,958]

1 minute ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Not stationary. Nowhere in the rules does it say "stationary", nor has it ever.

Regardless, why are blatant throws that are throws in anyone's language not called?

I don't know about the technicalities but having a stationary arm was what was taught in juniors (in my day)

It didn't have to be completely rigid but that arm certainly couldn't be moving about

Now, the momentum of the ball is often governed by the hand holding the ball ... I'm baffled as to why these rules are always 'stretched'

For instance, for decades a player was required to kick the ball over the mark ... that's no longer the case either.  There are numerous other examples of how the game has been redesigned

The coaches try it on and the league lets them do what they like (in a general sense)

 

7 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

If only there was some branch or arm of the AFL that was responsible for enforcing the rules in the AFL comp. Perhaps we could encourage them to look into these matters.

I suspect those overseeing proceedings prefer to see the umpires continuing to cop the wrath

Because that's what happens.  They (the umpires) are at the coalface and it's just easier to blame them

In a way it's an ideal solution for those who are supposedly running the sport because it's just more of the same for the umps anyway.  They are so used to all the criticism's that it's probably just water off a duck's back

But that has never made it right in my eyes because we rarely get satisfactory solutions

Every year is like groundhog day

[Wells 11 5,396]

3 hours ago, Webber said:

24 free kicks to 10. Not surprising of course. That’s standard for the Dogs. Being logical and impartial, given that this is a repeating phenomenon, there can be only two explanations for it. 1. That the umpires are heavily predisposed to pay more frees to the Dogs than their opposition for reasons other than being deserved, or at least ‘equally deserved’ , or 2. that the Dogs are just spectacularly good at drawing fairly adjudicated frees, the obvious implication being that they train to create this. Can there be any other explanations, because it’s gone way beyond random? Way, waaaaay beyond. 

well put. It’s so obvious now it’s genuinely embarrassing for the AFL … or it should be.  That the dogs must train for it is clearly obvious now. while I hate it I can’t help but feel if it’s allowed then maybe we should too? they’ve literally hit another player on the ground when yr plus 14 or 15 kicks. 

But there’s more to it as well isnt there… as you pointed out. It doesn’t explain why so many frees are missed to opposition teams v the dogs. Its like the umps WANT to give the dogs free kicks. 2 blatant mark infringement 50’s against Weightman let go, 2 really iffy “ unrealistic attempts” given to them. It’s spoiling the game. 

[Fritta and Turner 4,403]

Do Freo have any fwds?

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Blues Not looking as potent out of the middle with a team defensive style of opposition. 
 

The hype on Dockers and comparing to the Dees turnover game is a bit premature.

[The Swimming Dee 1,904]

That Carlton jumper is an embarrassment

[pineapple dee 2,892]

Cerra looks like quite a decent player 

 

[Demon Disciple 12,118]

8 minutes ago, Jontee said:

Do Freo have any fwds?

To be fair, their forward line and defence isn’t exactly A-grade. If the midfield puts in a poor one, it exposes both ends off the ground.

[BDA 22,742]

Another poor quality game. the fare this weekend has been pretty ordinary

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,367]

8 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

That Carlton jumper is an embarrassment

Of course it is. It's a Carlton jumper. 

[Jaded No More 68,880]

I am not watching. 
Are either of these sides a threat?

[Old Bear 388]

2 hours ago, dl4e said:

West Coast look like a 2nd division side of the vfa from the seventies. Dreadful.

Sunshine  just before they folded

Edited April 23, 2022 by Old Bear

[djr 1,445]

3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I am not watching. 
Are either of these sides a threat?

Yes. Freo play a similar game to us. 

[The Swimming Dee 1,904]

3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I am not watching. 
Are either of these sides a threat?

No threat…back to doing whatever you were doing jaded. Nothing to see here

[The Lobster Effect 890]

3 hours ago, Webber said:

I heard a stat some weeks ago (wish I’d paid more attention) that teams who lose the grand final by more than 45 points don’t win a final the next year. Something like 70% don’t make finals at all. And the bigger the margin, the worse it gets (sample group gets smaller though). Ergo, Dogs won’t make finals, and if they do manage to scrape in, they’re going straight out. 

Yeah the stats show that usually a top 4 side from the previous year misses finals

 

Edited April 23, 2022 by The Lobster Effect

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

You just have to love Mundy.