Low Attendance

[titan_uranus 25,056]

Not to be rude but mods, do we need another thread on this? There's already the Low Attendance thread for discussing these exact issues.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

7 hours ago, Garbo said:

See if Wilson criticises her beloved tigers with the same zeal as she did us this week. Some how I think she will conveniently forgot or make up an excuse 

Yep Caro loves pushing the old barrow against us that's for sure

Wonder what the grudge is

Edited June 10, 2022 by Demon Dynasty

[Clayton spirit 258]

The fixturing of the game for Thursday was a terrible idea. Thursday's work sparingly as blockbusters only

[ManDee 7,239]

We have the best game in the world.

Why I don't go to AFL matches. (I regularly go to local matches)

Flashing lights! How does that improve the spectacle? I even have trouble with that on the TV

Loud music! In breaks in play I like to talk to people not stick my fingers in my ears.

Admittedly there is also the 6 hours of driving but that is bearable.

So I pay my membership to support the team I love, but I cannot subject myself to pointless flashing lights and pounding music. It ruins a pleasurable experience. 

[old dee 23,922]

3 hours ago, ManDee said:

We have the best game in the world.

Why I don't go to AFL matches. (I regularly go to local matches)

Flashing lights! How does that improve the spectacle? I even have trouble with that on the TV

Loud music! In breaks in play I like to talk to people not stick my fingers in my ears.

Admittedly there is also the 6 hours of driving but that is bearable.

So I pay my membership to support the team I love, but I cannot subject myself to pointless flashing lights and pounding music. It ruins a pleasurable experience. 

Could not agree more. Enjoy your local footy and it probably has not yet been ruined by the broadcast media 

[Billy 2,556]

Blah Blah Blah

l get to around 10 games a year & live in East Gippsland, the closest train station is Bairnsdale a half hour drive, a 9 hour round trip

Sometimes l drive there and back in the day 

And sometimes stay overnight in town

Im 58 and a full time landscape gardener

The snow fields are an hour & a half up the road and I’ve never been

People  are more than entitled to not turn up, but it’s the ones that get on these forums complaining about fixtures, times, cost, umpiring etc etc are kidding themselves how much they love the club

These are the same people complaining about how poor we’re playing this year with a 10-2 record 

It’s understandable with the older generation with weather and travelling alone at night, the rest is unfortunately why our fan base will never be taken seriously 

Weve been a [censored] club for along time, we should all be trying to enjoy the experience live now because it changes pretty quickly 

 

[old dee 23,922]

30 minutes ago, Billy said:

Blah Blah Blah

l get to around 10 games a year & live in East Gippsland, the closest train station is Bairnsdale a half hour drive, a 9 hour round trip

Sometimes l drive there and back in the day 

And sometimes stay overnight in town

Im 58 and a full time landscape gardener

The snow fields are an hour & a half up the road and I’ve never been

People  are more than entitled to not turn up, but it’s the ones that get on these forums complaining about fixtures, times, cost, umpiring etc etc are kidding themselves how much they love the club

These are the same people complaining about how poor we’re playing this year with a 10-2 record 

It’s understandable with the older generation with weather and travelling alone at night, the rest is unfortunately why our fan base will never be taken seriously 

Weve been a [censored] club for along time, we should all be trying to enjoy the experience live now because it changes pretty quickly 

 

I am well ahead of you in age Billy which has caught up with me. The last 2 years have taught me the tv game is for me during the weeks in the middle of winter. Still pay my membership but only get to 5-6 games a year now. 

[Billy 2,556]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

I am well ahead of you in age Billy which has caught up with me. The last 2 years have taught me the tv game is for me during the weeks in the middle of winter. Still pay my membership but only get to 5-6 games a year now. 

No worries there Old Dee totally justified 👍

[Supermercado 2,802]

For the first time ever my kid has expressed an interest in going, so I use my membership barcode to log into Ticketmaster, choose 'member guest ticket 6-14 years' and pay $3.50 extra booking fee only for her to be assigned a spot in what seems to be a completely different part of the ground to the one I've been assigned on my digital membership.

I can't confirm this, because that's got me sitting in section 'GA42' which I don't think exists, and while an entry gate would give me some clue about which stand I'm supposed to go to, the bit where it says 'see below' for details doesn't have any details

It's an ambitious game to take a guest to but JFC what a farcical process. Given that I've been assigned a seat in a fictional area I'll just take up the spot next to the guest ticket, wait for the actual ticketholder to turn up and try to negotiate.

Edited June 11, 2022 by Supermercado

[58er 6,681]

On 6/10/2022 at 2:11 PM, Vipercrunch said:

Our crowds are UP from pre-covid crowds.  One of only two teams to have increased (which the author mentions in the third last paragraph of https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-crowds-slump-to-lowest-levels-in-26-years-excluding-covid-seasons-20220523-p5anq3.html).  Crowd numbers is a league wide issue which is affecting MFC far less than 16 other clubs.

And winning a premiership doesn't magically produce instant supporters. It takes more than 6 months from a premiership to see significant upturn in raw supporter numbers.

I also wonder if there is a big difference in the mindset and arousal levels at the mid-year mark of supporters supporting a teams that most consider a lock for top 2 to those supporting teams hoping for a finals position.

 

Your post is way off mark and also a previous response by KD GIRL as well. 

Increasing crowds that you say is laughable when you use 2019 as the guide!! We won 5 games  then. 

And what proof have you that it takes 6 months for crowds to increase after a premiership?  In other words from 2021 we have to wait 6 mths is April 2022 !!!

No all the reasons for weak excuses by Dees fans in this forum are just a reason why we may never reach our potential to challenge the BIG Clubs snd if/when we are not in the top or successful won't one day have a Club to barrack for.

To  think it was only 2013/4 that we won 2 games and our complacent self satisfied fans are critical now we are good is almost disrespectable to the heroes that have lifted us up where we are today. 

Most  of the reasons are just lazy, negative snd selfish. Standard of games umpiring ticketing ( most don't even know the system properly) despite the Club info spoiling them.

The Club  has 62,000 members and many are so precious it's just heartbreaking reading adults reacting like petulant 5 yo's when they try and justify reasons not to come. Keep your money the Club needs bums on seats 

It's a winter game always has been the transport system is there use it to your advantage.

In reply to KATRINA DEE GIRL you couldn't even put your reply points with correct no's using letters deliberately to confuse with your mostly confusing mis information.

And when fans sign off with a self satisfied cv of their support it's just another defence mechanism to feel justified to criticise in this forum.

Just for your info KFG I am a 57 year consecutive member went for 27 consecutive years 1965 to 1992 to all VFL games each season before moving interstate. I did not comeback to Victoria even for some Christmases till the 2000's and since 2012 have averaged 5 home games snd the Brisbane fixtures each season, giving to raffles and the win each game find for the Club.

Hsve been to the 2018 Finals  in Melb (in the middle of cancer treatment ) from interstate and was in a great lifetime experience  at the 2021 premiership win in Perth after 14 days " quarantining" in SA.

Have been in2022 so far to the Rounds vs Dogs Bombers  Tigers Swans and on Monday to Pies plus vs Suns in Round 2 at Metricon. Also to our party in Dec to celebrate our magnificent Flag!

So Please don't assume because you quoted "selected figures " and are so insecure to query my loyalty and passion that that makes  your post accurate and very authoritative as a result. 

So KDG get down from your high horse ( if it's not too far for you to jump down ) and don't make wild guesses snd accusations about my love for the Dees. 

I am not answering some of your points one by one as you obviously can't understand most of them.

Reread them maybe snd open your judgement to their meaning. 

 

 

 

 

[He de mon 942]

54 minutes ago, 58er said:

So KDG get down from your high horse

Pot, Kettle, Black.

[Pates 9,661]

3 hours ago, Supermercado said:

For the first time ever my kid has expressed an interest in going, so I use my membership barcode to log into Ticketmaster, choose 'member guest ticket 6-14 years' and pay $3.50 extra booking fee only for her to be assigned a spot in what seems to be a completely different part of the ground to the one I've been assigned on my digital membership.

I can't confirm this, because that's got me sitting in section 'GA42' which I don't think exists, and while an entry gate would give me some clue about which stand I'm supposed to go to, the bit where it says 'see below' for details doesn't have any details

It's an ambitious game to take a guest to but JFC what a farcical process. Given that I've been assigned a seat in a fictional area I'll just take up the spot next to the guest ticket, wait for the actual ticketholder to turn up and try to negotiate.

Do you have an 11 game membership? If so and you’re wanting both of you to have a reserved seat then you have to select a seat for you both. The digital membership only gets you General Admission, there’s no seat attached to it. 

[rpfc 28,843]

2 hours ago, 58er said:

Your post is way off mark and also a previous response by KD GIRL as well. 

Increasing crowds that you say is laughable when you use 2019 as the guide!! We won 5 games  then. 

And what proof have you that it takes 6 months for crowds to increase after a premiership?  In other words from 2021 we have to wait 6 mths is April 2022 !!!

No all the reasons for weak excuses by Dees fans in this forum are just a reason why we may never reach our potential to challenge the BIG Clubs snd if/when we are not in the top or successful won't one day have a Club to barrack for.

To  think it was only 2013/4 that we won 2 games and our complacent self satisfied fans are critical now we are good is almost disrespectable to the heroes that have lifted us up where we are today. 

Most  of the reasons are just lazy, negative snd selfish. Standard of games umpiring ticketing ( most don't even know the system properly) despite the Club info spoiling them.

The Club  has 62,000 members and many are so precious it's just heartbreaking reading adults reacting like petulant 5 yo's when they try and justify reasons not to come. Keep your money the Club needs bums on seats 

It's a winter game always has been the transport system is there use it to your advantage.

In reply to KATRINA DEE GIRL you couldn't even put your reply points with correct no's using letters deliberately to confuse with your mostly confusing mis information.

And when fans sign off with a self satisfied cv of their support it's just another defence mechanism to feel justified to criticise in this forum.

Just for your info KFG I am a 57 year consecutive member went for 27 consecutive years 1965 to 1992 to all VFL games each season before moving interstate. I did not comeback to Victoria even for some Christmases till the 2000's and since 2012 have averaged 5 home games snd the Brisbane fixtures each season, giving to raffles and the win each game find for the Club.

Hsve been to the 2018 Finals  in Melb (in the middle of cancer treatment ) from interstate and was in a great lifetime experience  at the 2021 premiership win in Perth after 14 days " quarantining" in SA.

Have been in2022 so far to the Rounds vs Dogs Bombers  Tigers Swans and on Monday to Pies plus vs Suns in Round 2 at Metricon. Also to our party in Dec to celebrate our magnificent Flag!

So Please don't assume because you quoted "selected figures " and are so insecure to query my loyalty and passion that that makes  your post accurate and very authoritative as a result. 

So KDG get down from your high horse ( if it's not too far for you to jump down ) and don't make wild guesses snd accusations about my love for the Dees. 

I am not answering some of your points one by one as you obviously can't understand most of them.

Reread them maybe snd open your judgement to their meaning. 

 

 

 

 

Classic Deeluded.

Chauvinism or Boorishness? You decide!

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Supermercado said:

For the first time ever my kid has expressed an interest in going, so I use my membership barcode to log into Ticketmaster, choose 'member guest ticket 6-14 years' and pay $3.50 extra booking fee only for her to be assigned a spot in what seems to be a completely different part of the ground to the one I've been assigned on my digital membership.

I can't confirm this, because that's got me sitting in section 'GA42' which I don't think exists, and while an entry gate would give me some clue about which stand I'm supposed to go to, the bit where it says 'see below' for details doesn't have any details

It's an ambitious game to take a guest to but JFC what a farcical process. Given that I've been assigned a seat in a fictional area I'll just take up the spot next to the guest ticket, wait for the actual ticketholder to turn up and try to negotiate.

GA42 means nothing. You’re told to ignore the section, row, seat allocation, and instead turn up early to get seats together. I can’t remember the GA gates through which you should enter but just do what I do: go through the wrong gate (each and every single time 😁) and walk to the relevant bay once inside. 
But if you you’d prefer accurate and reliable info, I’m sure @Lucifers Hero will be happy to advise. 😊

Edited June 11, 2022 by WalkingCivilWar

[He de mon 942]

24 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Classic Deeluded.

Chauvinism or Boorishness? You decide!

Tough decison given I have no idea what he is talking about.

[Fork 'em 7,008]

Richmond game attendance for Carro to ignore.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/it-looks-horrible-mcg-attendance-sinks-to-12year-low-as-afl-crisis-deepens/news-story/7ff1105a6ac6d9058be78771d486b9d6

[Wodjathefirst 2,659]

On 6/9/2022 at 6:26 PM, gregdemon said:

I never go to away games   not giving Filth  $25

Regarding your attitude about not giving the Filth any of your hard earned money- honourable.

Presume you are not a member (because we can get in to this game as a ‘replacement game’ or whatever the terminology is).

Something you might want to consider. MFC had a $65 Demon Spirit Membership offer for the remaining home games including the Queens birthday clash.  That way you can get to see the Filth lose to us and bring you great joy.

If not financially in a position to consider this option, apologies in advance, I’m sure you’ll be barracking hard in front of a telly somewhere. GO DEES 

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,950]

The floating fixture has been criticised and one problem with it hadn't dawned on me until now. If I want to go to other events - perhaps the theatre to see "Hamilton" - or to have a golf weekend, in the past I would have looked at the fixture and planned around that. I would book my tickets to see Hamilton on a Saturday night when I knew we wouldn't be playing. Similarly, my golf weekend would be scheduled for a weekend when I knew we wouldn't playing in Melbourne. 

With the floating fixture, I can't do that for any more. And I think that's a problem. I'm still going to go to Hamilton and I'm still going to plan a golf weekend. Footy will just miss out if they happen to clash.

PS: This is not entirely true. I don't play golf.

PPS: Caroline Wilson didn't go the Richmond v PA game because she was at the ballet instead. Who could blame her? The ballet tickets would have been arranged before the scheduling of the Richmond game was known. 

[Lucifers Hero 40,487]

The AFL know Thursday night is a fizzer for attendances:  “It was a soft number but it was Thursday night, it was a few thousand below forecast, and it was cold, and all of the above,” McLachlan said.  -small-afl-crowds-mclachlan

How dumb to schedule a Thrusday night game during a bye week and only 1 game today.

I suspect we won't see many Thursday night games in June and July next year. 

Reckon we will get a bigger Thursday night crowd than Richond vs Port when we play Brisbane as their Fitzroy supporters will come out like the old South fans did - they get only a few chances to see their teams play in Victoria.

[old dee 23,922]

30 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

The AFL know Thursday night is a fizzer for attendances:  “It was a soft number but it was Thursday night, it was a few thousand below forecast, and it was cold, and all of the above,” McLachlan said.  -small-afl-crowds-mclachlan

How dumb to schedule a Thrusday night game during a bye week and only 1 game today.

I suspect we won't see many Thursday night games in June and July next year. 

Reckon we will get a bigger Thursday night crowd than Richond vs Port when we play Brisbane as their Fitzroy supporters will come out like the old South fans did - they get only a few chances to see their teams play in Victoria.

Sorry to disagree LH but there will be more Thursday night games in 2023. That is what the broadcast media want and it is one of the few ways the AFL have left to increase the money in a new media deal. Any comments about low attendance number by the AFL are just them  telling us what we want to hear. Mushroom stuff. 

[Lucifers Hero 40,487]

8 minutes ago, old dee said:

Sorry to disagree LH but there will be more Thursday night games in 2023. That is what the broadcast media want and it is one of the few ways the AFL have left to increase the money in a new media deal. Any comments about low attendance number by the AFL are just them  telling us what we want to hear. Mushroom stuff. 

I did say not in June and July.

More next year. fine - play them in March, April, May and August when its a bit warmer.  Or if the AFL want JUne and July Thursday night games with crowds schedule them in Qld, Syd or Perth.

If Melb played Brisbane at the Gabba in a few weeks rather than at the G they would probably get over 40,000.  It isn't rocket science.

It is just dumb to have Thursday night games in Melb, in winter especially vs i/state sides.

And a novel idea:  play them at Marvel where there is a roof to offer some protection from the elements.

Edited June 12, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[old dee 23,922]

30 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I did say not in June and July.

More next year. fine - play them in March, April, May and August when its a bit warmer.  Or if the AFL want JUne and July Thursday night games with crowds schedule them in Qld, Syd or Perth.

If Melb played Brisbane at the Gabba in a few weeks rather than at the G they would probably get over 40,000.  It isn't rocket science.

It is just dumb to have Thursday night games in Melb, in winter especially vs i/state sides.

And a novel idea:  play them at Marvel where there is a roof to offer some protection from the elements.

All too good of ideas for the AFL LH.

[MT64 1,144]

AFL announced North's attendance as 13,700+. Would lay money that they included 5,000 Medallion memberships when convenient wether anyone is there or not. Been doing it for years. Corrupt to the core they are.

Edited June 12, 2022 by MT64

[Demonland 73,266]

4 minutes ago, MT64 said:

AFL announced North's attendance as 13,700+. Would lay money that they included 5,000 Medallion memberships wether anyone is there or not. Been doing it for years. Corrupt to the core they are.

That's a bigger attendance that Narrm vs North. How is that possible?

[Clintosaurus 7,913]

It would also have included North members scanning multiple tickets.