7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

What Can I Expect After Knee Cartilage Surgery?

remember they are professional athletes with the best possible medical care vs us normal humans - they routinely play with injuries we would struggle to get up a flight of stairs with

Edited March 18, 20224 yr by sisso

4 minutes ago, sue said:

that's a bit depressing.

let's hope that for a super fit athlete with intensive care it will be less than 6 weeks

57 minutes ago, bluey said:

Thanks Bont!
We shall not forget.

 

45 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Unless he went into the game with chipped cartilege, sounds like a new injury?

Yes just a coincidence.

Was a clash of knee caps with Salem coming off 2nd best (chipping some cartilage)

Conservative guess would be 6 to 8

Sure beats an ACL

~ throws salt over shoulder & checks the evil eye key chain

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

And here I am waiting for Tom Morris to report on it oh wait !!!

45 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

e./ @Webber

I’m assuming, and pretty confidently that they’re talking about the ‘articular cartilage’ rather than his meniscus, which is commonly termed ‘the cartilage’. Confusing, I know. The articular cartilage is the super-smooth surfacing we all have on the end of our bones to act as a joint surface. This can be subject to cracks, fissures, softening, chips, and ultimately, degradation over time that ends in bone exposure and likely joint replacement to resurface those bones (with titanium and nylon). It sounds like Christian Salem has had a bit of that artic. cartilage ‘chipped off’. What they’ll invariably do is surgically (keyhole) smooth the edges, and either ‘puncture’ the bone beneath to create a scar tissue ‘surfacing plug’, or lay down a matrix of organic material in the defect to have it function as original surface. Both take time to become weight-bearing and solid to increased stressors. I’d be surprised if he’s back within 8-10 weeks. (All the above based on the opening assumption). 

1 hour ago, Demonsone said:

Expect 6-8 weeks 

I'll take that

Beats 22

At least it's not an ACL... at least it's not an ACL... if you say it fast 100 times you feel better

 

Top 3 players I think we can least afford to lose and one of our most important.

 

Edited March 18, 20224 yr by Jaded No More

46 minutes ago, sue said:

that's a bit depressing.

 

I remember a team mate with a torn meniscus was about 6 weeks with surgery way back when i was a junior soccer player. With advancements and access to better medical practices nowadays, they may have shaven that back a few more weeks. hard to say how similar this type of injury is though. 

I think Bowza has the foot skills to become the key play maker while Salo is away. He is not as good 1-1 or overhead but Bowza's class can make the difference 

26 minutes ago, CYB said:

torn meniscus

 Two things. If it was a meniscus injury, I’m confident that would have used the term. The other being that you don’t ‘chip’ a meniscus. 

Sounds like this is almost as bad as the PCL scenario in terms of weeks missed.

Was hoping for 4-6 at most.

 

2 hours ago, bluey said:

Thanks Bont!
We shall not forget.

So in successive matches the thug Bontempelli has tried to take out Oliver, and has taken out Salem.

Hope our boys have long memories.

1 minute ago, Mazer Rackham said:

So in successive matches the thug Bontempelli has tried to take out Oliver, and has taken out Salem.

Hope our boys have long memories.

he's a very big boy is the bont. 194cm and about 100 kegs, especially compared to salo

you don't try to run through him as salo tried

1 hour ago, Webber said:

I’m assuming, and pretty confidently that they’re talking about the ‘articular cartilage’ rather than his meniscus, which is commonly termed ‘the cartilage’. Confusing, I know. The articular cartilage is the super-smooth surfacing we all have on the end of our bones to act as a joint surface. This can be subject to cracks, fissures, softening, chips, and ultimately, degradation over time that ends in bone exposure and likely joint replacement to resurface those bones (with titanium and nylon). It sounds like Christian Salem has had a bit of that artic. cartilage ‘chipped off’. What they’ll invariably do is surgically (keyhole) smooth the edges, and either ‘puncture’ the bone beneath to create a scar tissue ‘surfacing plug’, or lay down a matrix of organic material in the defect to have it function as original surface. Both take time to become weight-bearing and solid to increased stressors. I’d be surprised if he’s back within 8-10 weeks. (All the above based on the opening assumption). 

Such a crazy coincidence.

I was just about to post EXACTLY the same thing.

Well almost. 

I have him back in 2-3 weeks.

1 hour ago, MrFreeze said:

I think Bowza has the foot skills to become the key play maker while Salo is away. He is not as good 1-1 or overhead but Bowza's class can make the difference 

Yes, and has equally good decision making ability. JT rated this part of his game when drafted.

37 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

So in successive matches the thug Bontempelli has tried to take out Oliver, and has taken out Salem.

Hope our boys have long memories.

Is this anger towards Bont serious?

Bont made a fair and legal tackle. Wasn’t a free kick and no intent to hurt. It’s a contact sport and these things happen. He is a pretty fair player. Can't say I understand the thinking that he deserves some sort of square up for a tough, fair tackle.

3 minutes ago, MoeSyzlak said:

Is this anger towards Bont serious?

Bont made a fair and legal tackle. Wasn’t a free kick and no intent to hurt. It’s a contact sport and these things happen. He is a pretty fair player. Can't say I understand the thinking that he deserves some sort of square up for a tough, fair tackle.

Totally agree. There was nothing in it. A tackle that went wrong and hurt an already NQR knee from the looks of things. 

There are a lot of players at the Dogs I cannot stand, but the Bont is a star and a humble one at that. Never seen him do anything untoward on field or off. 
 

1 hour ago, Webber said:

 Two things. If it was a meniscus injury, I’m confident that would have used the term. The other being that you don’t ‘chip’ a meniscus. 

Thanks...I was wondering how you chip a soft tissue.

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Totally agree. There was nothing in it. A tackle that went wrong and hurt an already NQR knee from the looks of things. 

There are a lot of players at the Dogs I cannot stand, but the Bont is a star and a humble one at that. Never seen him do anything untoward on field or off. 
 

Generally I agree.,  But in the GF he did choose to bump Oliver and hit him in the head. Should have been reported, but no surprise he wasn't...AFL.

27 minutes ago, sue said:

Generally I agree.,  But in the GF he did choose to bump Oliver and hit him in the head. Should have been reported, but no surprise he wasn't...AFL.

No worse than Viney’s hit on McRae. 

1 hour ago, MoeSyzlak said:

Is this anger towards Bont serious?

It's just possible that it was not 100% serious.

3 hours ago, Webber said:

I’m assuming, and pretty confidently that they’re talking about the ‘articular cartilage’ rather than his meniscus, which is commonly termed ‘the cartilage’. Confusing, I know. The articular cartilage is the super-smooth surfacing we all have on the end of our bones to act as a joint surface. This can be subject to cracks, fissures, softening, chips, and ultimately, degradation over time that ends in bone exposure and likely joint replacement to resurface those bones (with titanium and nylon). It sounds like Christian Salem has had a bit of that artic. cartilage ‘chipped off’. What they’ll invariably do is surgically (keyhole) smooth the edges, and either ‘puncture’ the bone beneath to create a scar tissue ‘surfacing plug’, or lay down a matrix of organic material in the defect to have it function as original surface. Both take time to become weight-bearing and solid to increased stressors. I’d be surprised if he’s back within 8-10 weeks. (All the above based on the opening assumption). 

great to have you @Webber for the art and for the facts.

2 hours ago, binman said:

I have him back in 2-3 weeks

This too I prefer. 

Huge loss but at least its not long term.

 

2 hours ago, MoeSyzlak said:

Is this anger towards Bont serious?

Bont made a fair and legal tackle. Wasn’t a free kick and no intent to hurt. It’s a contact sport and these things happen. He is a pretty fair player. Can't say I understand the thinking that he deserves some sort of square up for a tough, fair tackle.

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