12 minutes ago, sue said:

I agree with that, but I am irked that you seem to hold me reponsible for what other people later said.     A number of posters have called for Luke to grow up for wanting to go home. I thought it was appropriate to say if a mother behaved like what was alledged, the mother should grow up. 

As DD said - don’t believe GNF. He is simply the worst poster on here. And I include olisik and Dr D in that.

188 pages and still going I would have thought it was all said some time ago. But still I get sucked into reading the latest. 

21 minutes ago, A F said:

I'm not so sure...

Well we don't know, AF and we are speculating but I'm not going to believe that all this talk has been merely heresay

Remembering that LJ hasn't re-signed and that's a big pointer.  If he wants to go home (and play for Freo) the terms of a trade will probably have been discussed

Clubs work way in advance of the here and now these days.  For instance, Scully was heading to GWS long before the details emerged.  Perhaps more than a year out ... and that was 10 years ago.  We have openly interviewed Grundy.  More change

However, an in-principle agreement is a moveable thing.  Say for instance Jackson finishes off the season in stellar fashion? The trade varies?  And it can go the other way too especially if an injury occurs

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

The LJ budget space becomes the Grundy budget space I suppose.

Weid is a fair chance to be traded (if we find anyone interested), but his wage off the books won't make any difference at all, he'd be on very very little. Tommo still contracted and handy depth, won't be going anywhere. There may be other players who make way though. But if you think about who we've re-signed the last 2 years and who we have to sign the next 2, it makes sense we'd be mostly looking at the draft for now.

My sources tell me Tomlinson will look at moving to another club to play AFL. 

2 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Why don't you compare apples with apples when lamenting Jackson's footballing ability/consistency?

He's in his third year and has just clocked up 50 games - not bad for a ruck!

Lets compare him with say Darcy Cameron - he's also just clocked up 50 games. The difference is, he was drafted in 2016 and debuted in 2018. Sam Draper, also drafted in 2016, is up to 43 games. Sean Darcy, also from the 2016 draft, tops the lot with 81 games. I'm sure in hindsight, many would have picked Sean Darcy a hell of a lot higher than pick 38. Imagine Jackson's tally after 6 years in the system.

I don't believe it's reasonable to demand consistency from a third year ruck that's already way ahead of the pack. so long as he continues to develop and improve. His game's looking pretty good at the pointy end of the season too.

 

Because that wasn't the question. I was responding to the assertion that if all the draftees from the past 3 years were available, Jackson would be the no.1 pick. Daicos is already a proven commodity, whereas Jackson is still a work in progress. 

So who would you take?

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The other big factor is the money that may be on offer ... an extra $250k - $400k per year over a decent length of time is more than a little tempting.  Along with the chance to return home?

My guess is that at the very least, strong talks have been made between the various parties involved.  With the stumbling block being the trade value.  A stalemate looms

26 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

My sources tell me Tomlinson will look at moving to another club to play AFL. 

Wouldn't blame him if true. Shame to lose him though.

7 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Wouldn't blame him if true. Shame to lose him though.

I feel the same, i really like him, as a player and as a team member, would love him to stay. May is getting older, he is great back up for Petty or May.. who else covers them at the moment?

I want to know what sort of a blame game is going to play out if we lose the next two games in a row?

1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

I feel the same, i really like him, as a player and as a team member, would love him to stay. May is getting older, he is great back up for Petty or May.. who else covers them at the moment?

Turner or Smith. I like Thommo too, but he’s probably at a stage in his career where he can probably win one more contract, but he needs to be playing.

His contract is also one I look at on our list with the thought ‘we’re clearly overpaying for the role that player is playing’. 

It’s a win/win if he finds a new club.

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Correction

3 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Turner or Smith. I like Thommo too, but he’s probably at a stage in his career where he can probably win one more contract, but he needs to be playing.

His contract is also one I look at on our list with the the thought of ‘we’re clearly overpaying for the role that player is playing’. 

It’s a win/win if he finds a new club.

Yeah good point re the cash CJ. Still not convinced on Turner, but guess we need to see more of him.

19 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

I feel the same, i really like him, as a player and as a team member, would love him to stay. May is getting older, he is great back up for Petty or May.. who else covers them at the moment?

I see more upside in Turner than Tomlinson post his knee reco.

27 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

The rumours of Tomlinson requesting a trade are 100% correct.  Obviously this will not formally happen until after the season but his manager has let the club know this is his intent.

1 minute ago, Grand New Flag said:

The rumours of Tomlinson requesting a trade are 100% correct.  Obviously this will not formally happen until after the season but his manager has let the club know this is his intent.

23 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

I feel the same, i really like him, as a player and as a team member, would love him to stay. May is getting older, he is great back up for Petty or May.. who else covers them at the moment?

If they want to go for a mature age depth then I'd certainly be looking at Lewis Melican from Sydney if Tomlinson decides to go.

Turner has the potential to step up down back if they decide to trial Harry Petty up forward next year.

34 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If they want to go for a mature age depth then I'd certainly be looking at Lewis Melican from Sydney if Tomlinson decides to go.

Turner has the potential to step up down back if they decide to trial Harry Petty up forward next year.

I would like to see us draft or rookie Corey Ellison.

What’s Tomlinsons value? 

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

What’s Tomlinsons value? 

3rd or 4th rounder. Getting his contract off the books a win.

1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

My sources tell me Tomlinson will look at moving to another club to play AFL. 

Makes perfect sense, as with Turner coming on he may well struggle getting a game in our backline.

The dogs would be a good fit i reckon as their backline is their Achilles heel.

 

33 minutes ago, binman said:

Makes perfect sense, as with Turner coming on he may well struggle getting a game in our backline.

The dogs would be a good fit i reckon as their backline is their Achilles heel.

 

I reckon he'd be a good fit at Arden Street. Mature, cool head and can hit the ground running.

Cannot blame him, tough position to fill at the moment, and Disco looks a real prospect too.

Please leave family members of footy players out of this.

18 minutes ago, Vitamin Dee said:

I reckon he'd be a good fit at Arden Street. Mature, cool head and can hit the ground running.

Cannot blame him, tough position to fill at the moment, and Disco looks a real prospect too.

Yep, good point.

And clarko has flagged he is interested in getting some senior players into the club.

Tomo has been brilliant since he arrived at the dees in terms of his professionalism, attitude etc. etc. Would be a great fit at club on the rise, with young players who need good role models and strong leaders.

And the fact that Tomo can play in multiple positions would be helpful - though i suspect his best spot is as a key defender. 

Having big bodied, older defender who can wrestle with the gorillas like Hawkins would be a bonus for a young team. 

And whilst a flag would likely be off the table for Tomo, being involved in rebuild under Clarko would give him the opportunity to build his leadership skills and leave a strong  legacy. 

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

Please leave family members of footy players out of this.

Does that mean we can't discuss the King brothers?

...or Andrew Brayshaw?

3 hours ago, Demon3 said:

I feel the same, i really like him, as a player and as a team member, would love him to stay. May is getting older, he is great back up for Petty or May.. who else covers them at the moment?

Turner. J.Smith apparently. At a pinch Tom Mac. Maybe even Weid.