Farewell Luke Jackson

[Fritta and Turner 3,911]

Weagles dont have a first or future first pick to trade......

[Demonland 66,987]

4 minutes ago, Jontee said:

Weagles dont have a first or future first pick to trade......

QUIRK IN EAGLES' JACKSON CHASE

WEST Coast would need an AFL exemption to trade for Luke Jackson if the Melbourne young gun decided to go back to Western Australia.

The Eagles are the only club not allowed to trade their first-round pick at this year's draft under the AFL's rules, which force clubs to use two first-round picks over a rolling four-year period to ensure they don't trade away all of their future selections.

West Coast has used one first-round pick in the past four years – Campbell Chesser last year – and could only trade their first pick if they secured a second first-round selection.

However, clubs are also able to apply for exemptions to trade out their top picks if they haven't reached the two-in-four requirement, with the AFL then able to decide.

The Eagles using their top pick at this year's draft – likely to be No.2 or 3 – to try to lure Jackson back to Western Australia would be expected to be approved by the AFL, though, considering Jackson was a No.3 pick just three years ago and will only be 21 at the end of this season.

Another option would be to split their early pick into two multiple first-round picks, which wouldn't require AFL approval. 

The star young ruckman has been weighing his decision to remain at Melbourne, where he was a central member of its premiership win last year, or return to Western Australia, with the Eagles and Fremantle both ready to make a play. – Callum Twomey

[one_demon 826]

16 hours ago, The Jackson 6 said:

If Jackson decides to move on, I reckon we could get Brodie Grundy on the cheap… ask the filth to pay a huge chunk of his contract too.

Signed a mega contract and has been poor since

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

8 minutes ago, Demonland said:

QUIRK IN EAGLES' JACKSON CHASE

WEST Coast would need an AFL exemption to trade for Luke Jackson if the Melbourne young gun decided to go back to Western Australia.

Another option would be to split their early pick into two multiple first-round picks, which wouldn't require AFL approval.

Talk about a click bait heading ie the first line which sounds categoric!!

Then the contradiction ie the second line

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At least someone else finally gets that splitting their first round pick is an option so hopefully I don't have to keep repeating it in this thread...

Edited July 7, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[Dr. Gonzo 22,847]

Or we could just give them our 1st rounder back and they include their 2nd rounder - basically will be a downgrade of 2-5 picks

[Demonstone 20,132]

 

10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Or we could just give them our 1st rounder back

I don't think we have one at the moment.

[Undeeterred 2,908]

11 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Or we could just give them our 1st rounder back and they include their 2nd rounder - basically will be a downgrade of 2-5 picks

That’s an excellent solution actually 

[Undeeterred 2,908]

1 minute ago, Demonstone said:

 

I don't think we have one at the moment.

We always seems to manage to find one

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

 

4 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

We always seems to manage to find one

But we would have to trade out something/someone of equivalent first round value to get that whereas our 'natural first round pick, which we don't have is 'free'.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[deelusions from afar 1,620]

I kind of agree with Jake here - It's going to take a mammoth contract to get Jackson to leave... but as we've seen in the past that can be a bit of a noose around the neck of the player and club.

Jackson is a freak - no doubt.  But if he is on $1M at 22 years of age (and the club has given up two first rounders, or one first rounder and a decent player) then the pressure is on him to perform.  He seems to handle pressure well but he's not regularly tearing games apart like most that get paid that amount.  

I often wonder how these things work.  Would a player manager ever say "You could get $X from Y but it's not all about the money.  That's going to put a lot of pressure on you and we don't want another Boyd situation."  Given that's against their own self interest I'm guessing not

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

24 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

At least someone else finally gets that splitting their first round pick is an option so hopefully I don't have to keep repeating it in this thread...

Mate. Everyone understood what you were saying. The point was even with splitting picks they would still need to trade both to get anywhere near the currency for a trade for Jackson, so they're still left with no first rounders.

Then you talked about splitting future picks for other teams future picks and honestly I'm not sure that has ever happened or ever would? Not sure you'd find multiple teams willing to take that gamble in one trade.

[whatwhat say what 20,492]

meth coke could apply (and would be granted) an exemption to trade their first round pick if they were bringing dogga in

[Sydee 3,765]

13 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

meth coke could apply (and would be granted) an exemption to trade their first round pick if they were bringing dogga in

Ah - why?

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

22 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Mate. Everyone understood what you were saying. The point was even with splitting picks 1) they would still need to trade both to get anywhere near the currency for a trade for Jackson, so they're still left with no first rounders.

Then you talked about 2) splitting future picks for other teams future picks and honestly I'm not sure that has ever happened or ever would? Not sure you'd find multiple teams willing to take that gamble in one trade.

1) No one knows what currency will be required. 

2) That is not what I said.  I said there are various combos of 2022 and 2023 picks with other clubs that could form part of a WCE split of 2022 first round pick.

[whatwhat say what 20,492]

7 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Ah - why?

because they'd be bringing in a 21 year old rising star winner and two-time premiership player

protecting first round picks is to ensure clubs aren't mortgaging their future for the present by trading in blokes due to retire in future years

any club can apply for an exemption to trade out of the first round; pretty sure the puddy tatts did it a few years back

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

1) No one knows what currency will be required. 

2) That is not what I said.  I said there are various combos of 2022 and 2023 picks with other clubs that could form part of a WCE split of 2022 first round pick.

I would suggest the currency would need to be MORE than what we paid for him.

So if the Eagles get permission to trade pick (let's say) 3, I don't think we would do that as a deal.

Eagles: Hey would you take pick 3 for Jackson?
Dees: Ummmmmm no
Eagles: Well, how about if we split our picks and offer picks 10 and 22 (points matching)
Dees; Lol what?

As for part 2, you're absolutely right, there's a ton of other potential options there, perhaps you can provide an idea of a realistic scenario based on the current indicative order and ability to trade future picks?

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

As for part 2, you're absolutely right, there's a ton of other potential options there, perhaps you can provide an idea of a realistic scenario based on the current indicative order and ability to trade future picks?

No, no no no!! 

Whatever I come with will just result in you or others picking holes in it and then we joust for a while and go on a merry-go-round again. 

I shall decline the invitation, thank you. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

No, no no no!! 

Whatever I come with will just result in you or others picking holes in it and then we joust for a while and go on a merry-go-round again. 

I shall decline the invitation, thank you. 

Haha that is actually fair enough mate!

FWIW, I don't believe WC are even in play in this situation. Will be us or Freo.

[cantstandyasam 700]

5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Yes that’s what Niall is saying. But he misses the point that Jackson is a unicorn and he should be a priority for 18 clubs. 

We will have another in a couple of years when Kalani White joins us.

[drysdale demon 4,356]

It doesn't matter about all the above scenarios, Jackson will re-sign with the MFC.

[cantstandyasam 700]

2 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

It doesn't matter about all the above scenarios, Jackson will re-sign with the MFC.

Fingers crossed. He has a Melb girlfriend and I thought his parents were going to move across.

[Dee Zephyr 18,276]

7 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

Fingers crossed. He has a Melb girlfriend and I thought his parents were going to move across.

This is huge! He has a girlfriend?

[Lord Travis 10,333]

10 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

Fingers crossed. He has a Melb girlfriend and I thought his parents were going to move across.

Not sure on the girlfriend, but I heard about his parents. They were planning to move across to Victoria, but Covid delayed those plans and they've since decided to remain in WA. It may be a key factor in his decision to move back WA unfortunately.

[faultydet 7,593]

3 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Not sure on the girlfriend, but I heard about his parents. They were planning to move across to Victoria, but Covid delayed those plans and they've since decided to remain in WA. It may be a key factor in his decision to move back WA unfortunately.

AFL players........

Boo hoo I miss my mummy....

 

Let's hope you're wrong.

[BDA 20,895]

15 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

He has a Melb girlfriend

Didn't realise he had found a Melbourne girlfriend. This changes everything. He'll re-sign with us for sure