POSTGAME: GRAND FINAL vs Western Bulldogs

[FritschyBusiness 1,478]

19 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Think you may be missing the point. 

we acknowledge that Petty is likely a better defender than Tomlinson. 

But Petty potentially has more flexibility to be able to play both back and forward, where as Tomlinson is likely to be significantly better as a backman vs other positions.

ie not saying Petty will be a better forward than back :- just saying Petty forward may be best for the team sometime in the future.

Hence at some stage, if Tomlinson gets back to his best, the club will most likely trial Petty as a forward :- even if it’s just as a backup, or as knowledge that they can pull that move to gain a match-up advantage. 

Don’t stress yourself out :- we are talking about a great problem to have, re flexibility and optimising team balance. 

 

 

14 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

As for me Petty might not be better. But given his talent he might be good there. I just think its great to have options and explore ideas. Remember the injuries we had in 2019?

Petty may well be a better defender and if it aint broke........but Tmac has shown some history of changing form and Weid is not a proven forward. Even if hes only needed as a stop gap its worth knowing he could do it. But yea as it stands I would prefer Petty down back over Tomlinson. Footy is a harsh mistress.

Thank you both for elaborating on your points, I couldn't see Petty working at all forward so thats why I was seeking more from you. Definitely got nothing to stress about, (other than whatever injuries we cop in 2022) :)

[1964_2 2,357]

5 minutes ago, FritschyBusiness said:

 

Thank you both for elaborating on your points, I couldn't see Petty working at all forward so thats why I was seeking more from you. Definitely got nothing to stress about, (other than whatever injuries we cop in 2022) :)

He has played some vfl forward, and a handful of his early AFL games were as a forward.

showed promise. Natural leading patterns, and could take a mark :- even though he was pretty skinny back then. 
 

[Satan 2,871]

Goal blitz starting on fox footy now

[daisycutter 29,613]

1 hour ago, 1964_2 said:

He has played some vfl forward, and a handful of his early AFL games were as a forward.

showed promise. Natural leading patterns, and could take a mark :- even though he was pretty skinny back then. 
 

steven may also was a KPF in his pre afl days. Also played fwd in his first few years at suns.

[faultydet 7,594]

On 10/20/2021 at 1:59 PM, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

And this from the ABC, upon Oliver's dagger: 'Oh, and the Demons; they're seeing what Paradise must look like!'

☝️💪

I shouldn't be surprised by now, but I still shake my head at what others find as great commentary.

That was so cringeworthy I can't even look at the screen due to embarrassment for the caller.

And that bloody "bang bang bang" Grrrrrrrrrrrr

Edited October 26, 2021 by faultydet

[Cassiew 1,903]

Can’t wait to watch it again when the DVD comes. We were the only Victorian team that had no premiership DVD. Now we have one in glorious colour. 
I remember when the grand final videos  were released in 1996 (some people might remember them with the Barassi sticker “watch ‘em when you WANT to.”) I was dismayed to find there was nothing for the 1964 grand final. There was even the 1961 one, but there was no more until 1966. A while later, they rediscovered the 1965 one. I was hopeful that 1964 would be rediscovered too. Alas, it never happened. I was so jealous of Saints having their 1966 one (in great condition too.) Now I know they’re jealous of us having a recent one (and an AFL one.) I’m going to treasure this DVD for years to come.

Edited October 26, 2021 by Cassiew

[Demonland 72,155]

Sounds like an old fashioned standoff at the OK Corral.

 

[low flying Robbo 979]

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Sounds like an old fashioned standoff at the OK Corral.

 

Sounds like old fashioned clickbait from the Hun....

Note: i haven't read the article

[MT64 1,144]

Have the HUN's premiers sticker on the SUV but I have carefully cut off all reference of the HUN. Haha. A car had a brilliant sticker on High Street so will hunt that one down and ditch the HUN one. When our beloved leader allows shops to open I shall get to the MCG Demon shop and buy up. Prefer the club to get my money.

[bringbackthebiff 654]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Sounds like an old fashioned standoff at the OK Corral.

 

It was a standoff, then the demons went bang. Bang, bang, bang. 

[brendan 3,436]

So a player was walking around with $10k in his pocket lol, fair bit of mayo on this story 

[Jaded No More 68,903]

This story sounds like a plot from Home and Away. Complete trash.

 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

1 minute ago, brendan said:

So a player was walking around with $10k in his pocket lol, fair bit of mayo on this story 

They "negotiated" a "peace treaty". What's it called when there's mayo on the mayo? Or mayo on the mayo on the mayo?

[rpfc 28,383]

35 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

They "negotiated" a "peace treaty". What's it called when there's mayo on the mayo? Or mayo on the mayo on the mayo?

Big Mac

[leave it to deever 17,511]

15 hours ago, faultydet said:

I shouldn't be surprised by now, but I still shake my head at what others find as great commentary.

That was so cringeworthy I can't even look at the screen due to embarrassment for the caller.

And that bloody "bang bang bang" Grrrrrrrrrrrr

I love Bts form where he leaves comments half finished....."and the Melbourne fans are going absolutely".

Didn't mind the bang bang but only because I was so caught up in the emotion.

Wasn't there one bang to many or was the fourth a metaphor for the flag?

Probably not.

[binman 42,896]

On 10/26/2021 at 8:50 AM, FritschyBusiness said:

 

Why oh why would either of you want to take a 21 year old premiership defender out of his position he held down for 19 games and an entire finals series with no problems?

It's Tomlinsons problem now to try and break into a premiership side

One million percent.

I said before his first game in for Tomlinson that we would lose nothing with petty, and perhaps might even be better off.

And predicted he will be a future AA defender.

Nothing I saw since replacing has led me to doubt those predictions.

Not sure where that leaves Tomlinson. But an advantage he has is his versatility 

[faultydet 7,594]

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

I love Bts form where he leaves comments half finished....."and the Melbourne fans are going absolutely".

Didn't mind the bang bang but only because I was so caught up in the emotion.

Wasn't there one bang to many or was the fourth a metaphor for the flag?

Probably not.

Brian Taylor is in the top echelon of the worst commentators in the history of the game, with Rex Hunt, and Kellie Underwood.

And please don't wind me up with Brayshaws "bang" call. It really does my head in. The combo of his horrible voice coupled with the inability to think of something good to say. My head hurts.

Have a listen from around 1hr36min of this. The commentator who calls the Oliver goal is a life long Melbourne supporter. You can feel the emotion in his call. Brilliant.

Also listen to his call of the final minute or so, almost cheering his team on to a flag.

 

[godees 861]

21 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

 

I understand that but Petty has always been a defender and IMO he is on par with Tomlinson. Tomlinson only lost 1 one on one and that was against the Cats after May went down with a fractured eye socket

Our forward line only really clicked in the last four weeks and is pretty damn potent with Fritsch, Brown, McDonald, Spargo, Neal Bullen and Kozzie with Jackson coming off the bench.
Who would Petty replace if playing there?

Our backline has Lever, May, Petty, Salem, Hibberd and Bowey with Rivers coming off the bench.
Who would/should Tomlinson replace?

Im curious as to what makes either of you think Petty would show more potential as a forward?
 

Hibberd

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,720]

5 minutes ago, godees said:

Hibberd

I don't think we can play all of May, Lever, Petty and Tommo at once.

I think Hunt will replace Hibbo next year and would've played in the finals if he didn't get injured.

[Cards13 9,117]

21 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Each team, even premiers, has personnel changes each year. We don't know what the future holds -- maybe TMac is displaced by Petty and has to force his way back in, maybe Brown gets a sore knee -- but as long as there is competition for places, complacency won't creep in.

GO DEMONS!!!

I'm amazed that every one of the 23 that played on the big day are back next year. 

[Cards13 9,117]

4 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

They "negotiated" a "peace treaty". What's it called when there's mayo on the mayo? Or mayo on the mayo on the mayo?

A Gaelic Football curse?

[leave it to deever 17,511]

22 hours ago, FritschyBusiness said:

 

Thank you both for elaborating on your points, I couldn't see Petty working at all forward so thats why I was seeking more from you. Definitely got nothing to stress about, (other than whatever injuries we cop in 2022) :)

Gee Demonland has been very polite and civilised since the flag😀

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,819]

6 hours ago, Demonland said:

Sounds like an old fashioned standoff at the OK Corral.

 

Free access version here:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/melbourne-demons/dees-and-dogs-reportedly-almost-came-to-blows-at-nightclub-days-after-afl-grand-final/news-story/3160b2546fce467d3971aa3b8493c407

I still haven't seen it, but sounds like the Bulldogs went off half cocked after they beat us in that final home and away game.  Like that we kept our powder dry until we'd won the one that counts and while I it's a fine line and I don't want us to get a reputation as cocky and arrogant, I feel the Dogs had this coming and like that we are hitting back a bit.

Could make for an even more spiteful rivalry with them in the years ahead, perhaps similar to the Geelong, Hawthorn one of a few years back.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

like the Bulldogs went off half cocked after they beat us in that final home and away game.  Like that we kept our powder

Watched the replay of that recently. Aside from the 24  to 11 frees in dogs favor we were not that bad. But boy did the umps give footscray an easy run. I think dogs actually train for high tackle frees and they certainly dont get pinged enough for throwing the ball. Maybe it lulled the doggies into a false sense of security. The dogs probably were the 2nd best team this year and they lost a few key players with injuries. But they also got a good ride in the lions final and were very lucky to just win that one. I'm so glad the umpires didnt spoil the granny for us. So looking forward to playing them again as well as Geelong. It was strange that the dogs were heralded as having the best midfield about because ours smashed them. Same with the touted cats forward line. I hope the free differential next year is much more even as I think it really carried the dogs a long way. Same with cats home adavantage which is why they are exposed come finals. Anyway, ive had my rant. Cheers.

[faultydet 7,594]

2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Free access version here:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/melbourne-demons/dees-and-dogs-reportedly-almost-came-to-blows-at-nightclub-days-after-afl-grand-final/news-story/3160b2546fce467d3971aa3b8493c407

I still haven't seen it, but sounds like the Bulldogs went off half cocked after they beat us in that final home and away game.  Like that we kept our powder dry until we'd won the one that counts and while I it's a fine line and I don't want us to get a reputation as cocky and arrogant, I feel the Dogs had this coming and like that we are hitting back a bit.

Could make for an even more spiteful rivalry with them in the years ahead, perhaps similar to the Geelong, Hawthorn one of a few years back.

I don't want to be known for advocating violence, but i would not be sad to see someone snot Libba. Detestable cretin.

Would be confident that he was at the centre of any stand-off between the two groups if it actually occurred.