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  On 31/08/2021 at 03:54, Demonland said:

Geelong are certain favourites. No way GWS win now with the both Green(e)s out and Mumford being propped up Weekend at Bernies style.

That might be the case, and if so I wouldn't mind defeating Geelong three times in one year.

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      On 31/08/2021 at 03:54, Lucifer's Hero said:

    The last one with Heppell happened on Sunday.  It was in play, he took several steps toward the umpire and must have seen him yet pushed him in the chest and upper arm which were forceful enough to force him back. Went round him only after the umpire had been pushed out of Heppell's path.  Didn't try to pull up.  Didn't look back.  Didn't apologise.  Not even cited by MRO.  

    And before folks pile on, I fully recognise the difference with the Toby incident.  Just surprised the MRO didn't even have it in the 'events reviewed' category and explain why no penalty was appropriate.     

    I saw it at the time and did not for one second think there was anything wrong with it. It is exactly what I would do in a situation in the street with a stranger if I bumped into them without seeing them except I would say "sorry mate didn't see you there".

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      On 31/08/2021 at 04:08, chook fowler said:

    Three weeks. There goes GWS finals campaign 

    I reckon the the Geriatrics are still ripe for the picking.  Hopefully Mumford and Hawkins get in a punch up and neither play again.  And Selwood gets concussed by diving too hard.  

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      On 31/08/2021 at 03:59, binman said:

    For those criticising the AFL, the tribunal is independent. 

    The AFL asked for six weeks 

    I suspect the Tribunal took into account missing a potential PF and GF. Not unreasonable, . In normal circumstances may have been 5 to 6 weeks mid season.

    Plus the cost to GWS and likely loss of potential captaincy.

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      On 31/08/2021 at 03:54, Lucifer's Hero said:

    The last one with Heppell happened on Sunday.  It was in play, he took several steps toward the umpire and must have seen him yet pushed him in the chest and upper arm which were forceful enough to force him back. Went round him only after the umpire had been pushed out of Heppell's path.  Didn't try to pull up.  Didn't look back.  Didn't apologise.  Not even cited by MRO.  

    And before folks pile on, I fully recognise the difference with the Toby incident.  Just surprised the MRO didn't even have it in the 'events reviewed' category and explain why no penalty was appropriate.     

     

      On 31/08/2021 at 04:04, Demonland said:

    I saw it at the time and did not for one second think there was anything wrong with it. It is exactly what I would do in a situation in the street with a stranger if I bumped into them without seeing them except I would say "sorry mate didn't see you there".

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      On 31/08/2021 at 04:02, sue said:

    I'm not sure if you are being ironic Binman.

    Not at all sue.

    To be honest, I find the narrative of the AFL as a Machiavellian puppet master all a bit silly.

     

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    Three weeks seems light, but it may have been strategic as a way to avoid a GWS appeal. Imagine if the Tribunal had gone with a 6 week sentence? Then GWS may have decided to appeal. That might have lead to a Not Guilty verdict. I think keeping the sentence on the light side made it harder for GWS to appeal. 

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      On 31/08/2021 at 03:20, gs77 said:

    3 weeks. That is a [censored] verdict.

    To be pedantic, the verdict was "guilty". The penalty is three weeks.

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    Greene is a cultural cancer. We talk about culture being so paramount in successful clubs. This guy is a captain with all the mental capacity and restraints of a toddler. He is constantly doing the wrong thing and costing his side.

    GWS have basically just lost the semi final thanks to him and his idiotic actions. If Viney or Gawn did that, I would be livid.

    GWS have a spineless coach with all the personality of a lampshade, and a bunch of star players who play like individuals for their big paydays. There is no unity and no team first mentality, and that is personified perfectly by their two leaders. One is in it for the money, the other is in it for Toby.

    Good luck to them.

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      On 31/08/2021 at 04:30, Jaded said:

    Greene is a cultural cancer. We talk about culture being so paramount in successful clubs. This guy is a captain with all the mental capacity and restraints of a toddler. He is constantly doing the wrong thing and costing his side.

    GWS have basically just lost the semi final thanks to him and his idiotic actions. If Viney or Gawn did that, I would be livid.

    GWS have a spineless coach with all the personality of a lampshade, and a bunch of star players who play like individuals with their big paydays. There is no unity and no team first mentality, and that is personified perfectly by their two leaders. One is in it for the money, the other is in it for Toby.

    Good luck to them.

    On Footy Classified last night they made a point of showing Gawn giving all our players a "high five" (actually a "low five" if that's the correct term, given their hands were all pointing downwards) as they ran onto the ground on Saturday night. It was presented as an example of why he's a good captain. 

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      On 31/08/2021 at 04:22, binman said:

    Not at all sue.

    To be honest, I find the narrative of the AFL as a Machiavellian puppet master all a bit silly.

     

    I agree too many do take that narrative far too far, especially when things go wrong for their favorite club, but what motivates the AFL is usually pretty clear and it's usually no surprise as to the result.  But in this instance, how independent is the Tribunal?  Who appoints it?  Who are the appointees? What are their careers? What is their reationship to the AFL?  Convince me that the answers indicate real independence.

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      On 31/08/2021 at 04:31, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    To add insult to injury, I assume the airline has just imposed an "Excess Baggage" charge on GWS for carrying Greene to WA.

    Plus fined for "Unnecessary Travel".

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    A really great player but his brain fades have really damaged him as a Star and his Club at the most critical of times. I was really shocked when I saw the incident and the look on Jesse Hogans face following the incident confirmed to me the unacceptable nature of the incident. The Giants should impose further sanctions on him so that he actually gets it.!!!!

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      On 31/08/2021 at 04:33, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    On Footy Classified last night they made a point of showing Gawn giving all our players a "high five" (actually a "low five" if that's the correct term, given their hands were all pointing downwards) as they ran onto the ground on Saturday night. It was presented as an example of why he's a good captain. 

    The thought of Max and Spargo doing a genuine high five 🙌 is food for thought.  

      On 31/08/2021 at 04:40, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    I have a vision of Greene being pushed out of the plane as it taxis down the runway. 

    …. better still at 37,000 feet over the Great Australian Bight. ✈️

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    Gee Geelong shortened a fair bit another the suspension  of Green. Let's hope they at least leave Geelong very sore and hurting after the game.   

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    Well the Giants have no option but to come out and physically smash the Cats and try to spread and run the oldies off their feet

    Sounds good to me!

    Bring in Pruess to team up with Mummy to break some bones 

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      On 31/08/2021 at 04:27, mauriesy said:

    To be pedantic, the verdict was "guilty". The penalty is three weeks.

    Thank you, yes, I stand corrected!

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      On 31/08/2021 at 03:33, DubDee said:

    Considering he could miss 3 finals including a prelim and GF, the suspension is not insignificant

    equal to 6-8 in the H&A

    Interesting logic.

     

    He offended during a final, so that should be double the standard penalty, yeah?

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    Correct verdict, penalty the absolute bare minimum but IMO too light.

    The AFL has a lot of work to do with its MRO/Tribunal process for 2022. Greene, like Selwood, is a brilliant example of why repeated fines do nothing to deter behaviour.

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