sorry, yes, 1/3 majority to kill it off completely

i reckon their goose is cooked

2 minutes ago, rpfc said:

If Geelong can function, Tassie can.

historicity counts

cats also may not have survived if they'd not been situated in a swinging seat at both state and federal level and had smart business people making sure they got every govt handout they get get their grubby little mitts on

25 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

essentially, the afl commission is taking a recommendation from clubs as to whether or not tasmania should get a license - they need a minimum of a two-thirds majority of the clubs to support it - i.e. at least seven of the 18 clubs (i.e. one-third plus one) would be required to vote in favour of their entry

however, gilligan has already said that he wouldn't take it to the commission to be voted on unless there was mass consensus and support for the entry of a new team; last it was rumoured to be only tony cochrane at gc17 who was going to vote negative to it, but i would argue that if tassie are asking for a provisional license then they think they're cooked and they might not even get the seven being supportive to ratify it

Thanks very much, that's fantastic, and clear.

33 minutes ago, rpfc said:

If Geelong can function, Tassie can.

Geelong is funded by the Vic Govt in the form of a free stadium. It has a local population base bigger than Hobart and has an existing supporter base near equal to the whole of Tasmania's population.

The better comparisons are Saints, North and even ourselves.

Hopefully the clubs demand to see a full business case that encompasses various alternatives including folding one of GWS or GCS and replacing it with a team from Tasmania.

Placing KPI's on the continuation of the licence is a ploy. What Commission would throw them out after ten years when the odds are that four or five of the core clubs aren't meeting the same KPI's

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

cats also may not have survived if they'd not been situated in a swinging seat at both state and federal level and had smart business people making sure they got every govt handout they get get their grubby little mitts on

prefer paws, eh what....

32 minutes ago, Jontee said:

prefer paws, eh what....

Maybe pause would be even better. 🙄

Yes who is going to fund a Tasmanian side, once the Honeymoon Period is over?

There is no real value in the broadcast deal having 10 games. Tasmania (and the NT) already watch the existing Broadcast. 
I would be opposing this proposal vehemently. 
It will cost a fortune 

 

so that's two presidents to confirm their clubs will oppose

i can't see it happening

 

19 teams seems an odd number to me.

5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

19 teams seems an odd number to me.

The team with the bye each week can live stream a dinner party with 5 selected players (1 leader and 4 fringe) - with pre-selectrd topics to discuss/confront each other over. At the end of the dinner, one player will be voted off the seniors list. 

Edited June 8, 20222 yr by John Demonic

Politically I think it has to happen, and it has to be a standalone team.

13 hours ago, John Demonic said:

The team with the bye each week can live stream a dinner party with 5 selected players (1 leader and 4 fringe) - with pre-selectrd topics to discuss/confront each other over. At the end of the dinner, one player will be voted off the seniors list. 

Or we could force the 2 drunkest ones to have a cage fight....

1 hour ago, demoniac said:

Politically I think it has to happen, and it has to be a standalone team.

Politically, maybe, but if the AFL are concerned regarding falling attendances, then have they considered just how many fans they may lose if their clubs has to stand aside for an unnecessary bye. 

Some teams will need to have a bye in rounds 1, or 2 or 3: others will get them in the last few weeks of a season.  Will they also continue with the mid season bye, and the pre-finals bye?    That will be just about enough for many wavering followers.

"AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan has indicated Tasmania's bid for a 19th licence is contingent on the island state building a new stadium.   McLachlan confirmed the League would only consider issuing a new licence, rather than relocating an existing club to Tasmania.  The state government in March announced plans to develop a multi-purpose stadium at Hobart's waterfront, costing an estimated $750 million. new-stadium-needed-for-tasmania-licence

 

If the licence is contingent on a new stadium they won't see a team in Tassie for a long time, if ever.  On OTC recently Nick Riewoldt was asked about the stadium funding and he said something like:  "..well it will happen.  The AFL, Federal and State governments will have to put in.  AFL will need to make it happen like they do other initiatives".

In other words there isn't a plan for where the $750m will come from.  Can't see the AFL putting in too much of its coin for an "all purpose stadium" when it might be used once a fortnight for AFL games.

 

Update on the costings:

"The bid team has admitted that original costings of a proposed new stadium on the Hobart waterfront were loose... the ABC revealed last week that figure was a “ballpark” figure provided by a consultant, rather than a firm cost".

stadium-ultimatum-on-tasmanian-afl-team

From what I can tell the $150 promised by the Tas Gov't is for a training facility and contribution to running expenses over 10 years.

Edited June 9, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

methinks it's dead in the water

no new stadium gives the afl an easy out

 

Seeing this brought up a few places, but what exactly is wrong with the current stadiums down there? 

3 hours ago, roy11 said:

Seeing this brought up a few places, but what exactly is wrong with the current stadiums down there? 

No roof

Without one the product could be terrible. Remember Tassie have never had a night game

With a State funded clean stadium seating say 35k the Tassie team could stack up. It would mean big $$ every year from the State. This is effectively what NFL teams do.

Build me a stadium/new stadium or we move !!

Edited June 10, 20222 yr by Diamond_Jim

16 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

No roof

Without one the product could be terrible. Remember Tassie have never had a night game

With a State funded clean stadium seating say 35k the Tassie team could stack up. It would mean big $$ every year from the State. This is effectively what NFL teams do.

Build me a stadium/new stadium or we move !!

And that often ends in a painful  financial burden for the city.  But pardon my ignorance but er, what? No roof? Really?

Roof for the players or roof for the fans? 

The requirement a new team needs a fricken stadium shows how delusional the AFL is. The new team needs heart, passion, players and coaches committed, it needs branding, marketing, innovation, the franchise needs wins, culture, long term thinking.    The last thing it freaking needs is a roof on its stadium.  If thats really what the AFL thinks will make it a success, just stop wasting time and end the effort now.  For the record, I dont think numbers make much sense to have a team in Tassie but they didnt for GCS and they gave that a try so who knows 

good grief...

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/tasmanian-afl-team-eddie-mcguire-says-north-melbourne-should-play-11-games-in-tassie/news-story/6dd17d1ae93fbc5153d6bdc1cd4552b8

under his plan north would play 11 games in melbourne, 11 games in tasmania...seems equitable and fair...

why can't caro reverse engineer his plan, and drown him?

6 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

good grief...

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/tasmanian-afl-team-eddie-mcguire-says-north-melbourne-should-play-11-games-in-tassie/news-story/6dd17d1ae93fbc5153d6bdc1cd4552b8

under his plan north would play 11 games in melbourne, 11 games in tasmania...seems equitable and fair...

why can't caro reverse engineer his plan, and drown him?

 

 

18 teams should be the limit. How do you manage the bye with 19 teams? one poor sod of a team gets bye round 1 and then plays 18 rounds of footy. Given our 9 day break it’ll probably be us.

We have too many teams already in Melbourne so I think ultimately 2 need to relocate. 1 tonTassie and the other to Darwin in 5-7 years time. Should be Collingwood.