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No changes unless injuries for mine and then like for like.

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    21 minutes ago, Nasher said:

    Forced changes only. Pre-emptive LOL for any posts suggesting differently.

    We’ve looked tired for over a month now.

    I want to see some rotations and give some Casey guys a taste in case they are needed come finals.

    I’d even take Melksham at this stage because one thing he can do is kick the ball.

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    4 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Nah not today, @Nasher.

    A big win does not always mean a flawless 22.

    I'll happily debate anyone who argues Harmes played well today.

    Woeful up forward particularly in the 3rd quarter and last, cost us 5 goals.. 2 bad set shots in the second I think. 

    But we’ve seen all year he’s not a forward but is a pretty handy midfielder even if he makes mistakes.

    The question with dropping him is who is better?

    I love JJ’s clean hands and team style but he can’t really kick nor is he a strong contested ball winner. He doesn’t compliment Viney and Sparrow any better than Harmes does. 

    Vanders - meh, he’s pretty much the same as Harmes with worse movement. Melksham - no. Jones - no, for now. Chandler - no. Kye Declase - one to watch, but I doubt it.

     

    Harmes is god awful..( relax @Baghdad Bob.. before you go all mental health on me ) he won't get dropped unfortunately.  There'll be only forced changes.

    My ins and outs

    Weideman for McDonald 

    Hibberd for Salem

    No idea....I wanted Jackson dropped last week.

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    28 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    If Salem's even remotely sore he should absolutely not play next week - the Eagles game is critical to our season but Salem's fitness for the games beyond it is far more important. Hibberd a more than adequate replacement.

    If lions and swans lose today then top4 is all but a certainty. Given PA doesn’t look likely to finish 1st or 2nd then we will either face Dogs at Marvel or Cats at the G. Coming 1st 2nd or 3rd won’t change that. So agree on resting him if needed. 

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    Out: Viney, Harmes

    In: Jordan, Vanders

    If Salem is out, De Classe

    If TMAC is out Weed (dare I say)

    Bowey just brilliant today

    With our poor finishing I think we'd be unwise not to at least have a look at Melksham. He's our best finisher and field kick. 

    Give him eagles and crows, see what he can bring us.

    Harmes out 

    Melksham in

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    11 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

    No idea....I wanted Jackson dropped last week.

    So did I - and many others on Demonland (who have gone quiet on the matter). Amazing, isn't it, that people actually involved in the club and the game might know a little more than the geniuses on this site?

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    Out Viney, he’s done, in Baker.

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    1 minute ago, Dee*ceiving said:

    With our poor finishing I think we'd be unwise not to at least have a look at Melksham. He's our best finisher and field kick. 

    Give him eagles and crows, see what he can bring us.

    Harmes out 

    Melksham in

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Like it. Magpies showed how to dismantle Eagles by lowering eyes and pin pointing their passes into forward line. We still bomb it a bit much in my view and need players to look for our forwards. Melksham provides that and plenty of kicking practice required for Trac etc. so we also can dismantle the Eagles

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    2 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

    So did I - and many others on Demonland (who have gone quiet on the matter). Amazing, isn't it, that people actually involved in the club and the game might know a little more than the geniuses on this site?

    I thought he should have been given a rest but he took a big step towards winning the rising star today. He was great.

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    Viney and Harmes certainly do have their deficiencies but I doubt either of them will get dropped. I don't think that there will be any changes provided that Tmac and Salem are fit to play next week. Otherwise you'd assume that Weideman and Hibberd would be straight in the team.

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    46 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Weid for TMac if injured.

    Otherwise I'd drop Harmes for Jordon, or vandenBerg even, and I'm no vandenBerg fan. Harmes 4 turnovers and 4 clangers from 76% game time. Just hurts us more, IMO, than he helps us.

    No other change. Bowey holds his spot over Hibberd for at least one more week. 

    Petracca had 7 and Oliver 4 turnovers.  They getting dropped,  Harmes was great today and is the midfield rotation we need.  24 disposals at 63%, 8 tackles, 29 pressure acts and should have kicked 2 if not 3 goals.   He allows Oliver and Petracca do what they do.  


    23 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

    So did I - and many others on Demonland (who have gone quiet on the matter). Amazing, isn't it, that people actually involved in the club and the game might know a little more than the geniuses on this site?

    He played well today but I thought that Jackson has lost quite a bit of his leap . He had the ability to float and hang , but he is young and he appears tired to a degree.

    No change unless Tmac doesn't get up.

    The sceptic in me reckons this is planned so he can have a rest next week and stay home for the week with his family which I'm OK with. 

    Happy for Weed to have a run if so. 

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    55 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said:

    It's not Rivers or Hunts role to shut down dangerous forwards.

    Hunt breaks lines and Rivers creates play.

    It is their role if Hibbo‘a not in the side. That’s the point.

    We aren’t putting Bowey or Salem in dangerous forwards.

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    28 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

    Petracca had 7 and Oliver 4 turnovers.  They getting dropped,  Harmes was great today and is the midfield rotation we need.  24 disposals at 63%, 8 tackles, 29 pressure acts and should have kicked 2 if not 3 goals.   He allows Oliver and Petracca do what they do.  

    I can see your point there Travvy. Those stats are good.  I just wish Harmes would keep his game a lot simpler. Fewer fend offs and trying to evade 5 tackles in an effort for the miracle kick/handball to advantage.

    Whenever Clayton feels tackle pressure his instinct is to get his arms high and free giving him a chance at an effective disposal. This would be a better technique for James than the fend off. He doesnt have the upper body strength of a Trac

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    35 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

    So did I - and many others on Demonland (who have gone quiet on the matter). Amazing, isn't it, that people actually involved in the club and the game might know a little more than the geniuses on this site?

    Knowledge and experience will always win over the guesswork of supporters.


    1 hour ago, Vagg said:

    I'm probably wrong, but was under the impression that if a player is subbed out of a game he is automatically ruled out of the next game.  Hope I'm wrong...

    Just for concussions I believe.
    Automatic 12 days no playing 

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    58 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

    No idea....I wanted Jackson dropped last week.

    Love your honesty. I'm one of the ones pretending I was backing him in the while time... I wasn't

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    9 minutes ago, Dee*ceiving said:

    I can see your point there Travvy. Those stats are good.  I just wish Harmes would keep his game a lot simpler. Fewer fend offs and trying to evade 5 tackles in an effort for the miracle kick/handball to advantage.

    Whenever Clayton feels tackle pressure his instinct is to get his arms high and free giving him a chance at an effective disposal. This would be a better technique for James than the fend off. He doesnt have the upper body strength of a Trac

    Agree, but id also like that from T-Mac, Viney, ANB and Sparrow.  But people need to rem Harmes is our 4th-5th midfielder, he isnt going to be polished.  No club has that,  he is a very handy mid rotation.  He kicks 3 goals and I bet no one is talking about him.

    Same as everyone is on Vineys back about today's game, whilst I agree it was bad,  his past month he has been a shining light.

     
    1 hour ago, Vagg said:

    I'm probably wrong, but was under the impression that if a player is subbed out of a game he is automatically ruled out of the next game.  Hope I'm wrong...

     

    1 hour ago, Jaded said:

    Not necessarily. You need to get a clearance from the AFL to allow them to play the next week. Given we spent 12 hours flying around Australia yesterday I doubt the AFL would be so cruel as to say he didn’t have legitimate back problems. 

    Wouldn’t trust the AFL to “look sympathetically” on anything to do with MFC.

    However if TMcD has any back issues, especially is aggravated by flights, then now would be a good time to give him a week off and have a look at Weed.  Then of course what if Weed were to have a flyer? (Would be a very nice dilemma though). 

    1 hour ago, Jaded said:

    If Tmac and Salem are good to go I think it’s just one change. But I think it also depends if we want to rest players heading into finals. 

    Both very important players - do not risk any aggravation at all if any doubt. 

    37 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    It is their role if Hibbo‘a not in the side. That’s the point.

    We aren’t putting Bowey or Salem in dangerous forwards.

    We'll they did a good job then stopping dangerous forwards if gold coast were restricted to 4 goals for the match and we won by over 90 points


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