Football commentary does my head in

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Just now, demonstone said:

???  No 5 in Hunt's 29.

Actually there are 5.8 x 5's in 29.

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2 hours ago, Ethan Trembley said:

 

I can't believe a Melbourne supporter actually thought that was a good call.

My God that man is a hopeless commentator.

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Am I allowed to say who I think is good?

Luke Hodge is sensational in special comments. Very easy to listen to and does not seem to let his call be affected by the hysterics of the other commentators.

 

Brian Taylor is a disgracefully poor commentator. Needed to be said again. 

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16 minutes ago, ding said:

IMO the worst special comments person in the entire media world is Mark Mclure. Zero original insight, and contradicts himself so many times each game its hard to keep count.

Deplorable.

Just hanging in by the old boys network skin of his teeth...

A throw back to Sam Newman model of special comments person.

Tell it like it is...hardly, he has no idea what it is he's watching.

 

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Commentary officially died when the great man retired 

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All the buzz these days is coaching succession planning but channel 7 have clearly neglected a commentary succession plan post Bruce and Dennis who were the best in the business.

The fact the Friday night footy is headed up by 2 commentators that used to call the Sunday Channel 9 off broadway game in the early 2000's is a clear reflection of not planning for the future.

Channel 7 need to have a nibble at Anthony Hudson.

 

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29 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Similar builds, long hair, long sleeves and a 5 in the number, make it understandable to some degree.

Then again it is their damn job to know better.

Imagine one of those peanuts calling a horse race.

Jockeys have the same build, all wear silks (that often look similar eg the Godolfin blue) and all are riding horses that with the odd exception look much the same. 

And jockeys don't have big bloody numbers on their back!

Edited July 9, 2021 by binman

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46 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Similar builds, long hair, long sleeves and a 5 in the number, make it understandable to some degree.

Then again it is their damn job to know better.

There’s no number 5 in 29. ?
Just getting that out of the way coz chances are someone will want you hanged, drawn and quartered for that mistake. 
Soz, just noticed it’s already been pointed out. 

Edited July 9, 2021 by WalkingCivilWar

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28 minutes ago, ding said:

IMO the worst special comments person in the entire media world is Mark Mclure. Zero original insight, and contradicts himself so many times each game its hard to keep count.

Deplorable.

Well go figure. If Mark's doing ABC commentary, including pre-match, I'll always listen. Of course he'll stumble and contradict occasionally. I'd rather listen to his individual take on the game than the AFL endorsed blather spouted by most of the other commercial commentators. He's a breath of fresh air compared to them.

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Can't stand it just like everyone else here. It's dropped in quality so much since I was a kid.

The Channel 7 commentators are briefed to dumb down the game and not get too tactical to ensure the game feels accessible to wider audiences – to its detriment in my opinion. You don't hear American football commentators leaving out all the technical stuff or Formula 1 commentators. Watching the Tour de France is only really possible because of the commentary (in my opinoin). It adds multiple other layers on top of what is hopefully already an interesting game.

Anyway, I watch the footy via the Kayo app on a Smart TV with the sound off and then listen to the SEN commentary via my iphone. It's really easy to sync them with Kayo as you can just pause for a second to let the radio catch up or fast forward when needed, etc. Replays I watch back with Ch 7 which by that point you can just laugh at the biases when they appear.

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56 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Where is Bruce ?

He retired, didn’t he?

Still does the Olympics, doesn’t he?

We all miss him, don’t we?

It would take three lifetimes to answer all his questions, wouldn’t it?

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The one I hate (perhaps a bit irrationally) is when the umpire mic picks up something the umpire's said explaining their decision or just making their call and the commentator proceeds to say, "You heard the umpire", putting the viewer in one of two annoying positions:

#1 Yes, I did hear the umpire, thanks for redundantly pointing that out

Or, worse

#2 No, I didn't hear the umpire and now I'm left to wonder what they said because instead of using your commentary to summarise or (heaven forbid!) expand on what they said, you've instead utterly wasted that time with a statement that's utterly worthless.

Yes, if you're in position #1, it could be slightly annoying to have to listen to a repeat of what the umpire said if you've just heard it, but I'd hazard a guess that it would be MUCH less annoying than being in position #2 still with no idea what was said.

Also when one commentator repeatedly gets a player's name wrong within the game and apparently no one quietly corrects them off-air? Even though clearly the other commentators are all saying it correctly. Do they not have any quality control?

Case in point: how BT has always ALWAYS pronounced Salem "Sah-lem" not "Say-lem" like everyone else for some reason? And on one memorable occasion, "Slalom" and no, not even for some weak snow joke either. Gah!

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Oh wait, and also the lengthy pause after Daisy (or anyone, but it's noticeable with her) says something intelligent and then the other commentator (BT mostly) basically goes, "Anyway...". No give and take, no acknowledgement except maybe a condescending "Good one". Double gah!

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7 hours ago, binman said:

Random lowlight from the Channel 7 coverage of the Port game last night THAT DID MY HEAD IN #1:

Fritter thinks he has touched a ball, because he did, that Alir is paid a mark for. So assuming it is play on Fritter tackles Alir. Much to fritters dismay, the umpire gives a 50. Which was fair enough as a mark was called.  

The commentators say as much. Play on. Nothing to see here.

Later, Kossie takes a nice mark. It may have been touched. Jonas  certainly thought so and tackled Kossie. Much to Jonas' dismay, the umpire gives a 50. Which was fair enough as a mark was called.  

The commentators express amazement and surprise.

Watching THE REPLAY, which provided crystal clear evidence the 50 was there every day of the week, 'Hamish" opines Jonas was hard done by. WTF

DOES MY HEAD IN!!!! 

Completely agree. I noticed that too. One passage of play where Port goaled they say 'Port just took the game on, they were probably a bit lucky with not getting called holding the ball but they need to continue to take the game on'. How about changing the narrative and saying 'Melbourne stiff by a terrible call there. The umpires need to look out for that but Port took advantage of a bad call and kicked a goal'. 

I can't stand how they never address bad umpiring. 

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3 hours ago, Supermercado said:

What about when their researcher stuffed up and thought Wayne Reid was a player as well as an ex-president? Assuming they mixed him up with Wayne Gordon. Not the worst thing Channel 7 has ever done but still a shambolic attempt at a tribute.

But for the rest of last night, any commentary box without BT is an improvement. I wouldn't pick McLachlan or Brayshaw at the top of the commentator draft but Taylor is such a buffoon that he brings everyone down with him.

I’m sure we’ve had some teams bad enough that the President has thought to pull in the boots and bring us a win.

God knows I have.

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7 hours ago, binman said:

Eddie loves name drop.

Assuming of course said person is filthy rich

Sent a cheerio to Gerry Harvey and his wife last night FFS. the most despicable person on the planet

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7 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

BT is obviously a boofhead and James Brayshaw's sshtick is well past its use by date. for me though the most beige and banal commentator is Cameron Ling. For the type of player he was I would have assumed a forthright, no nonsense style. He's the exact opposite. I've never heard a single insight pass his lips

Cameron "it'll all start in the midfield" Ling. Thanks captain obvious. 

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6 hours ago, dimmy said:

Yeh, Bring back Doug Heywood & Percy Beames with Alan McIlvray for special effects.

Eddis McEverywhere thinks he is broadcasting on radio whereas TV allows people to see the actual contest. WHere commentators  (the good ones) are handy when they present the wider picture that is not shown on our screens at the time i.e. when a side gets a really good ball movement down the ground. TV does not show that very often.

 

Doug "(insert player's name) all alone and unattended" Heywood.

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I miss lou and jack they were the best ever way back then,especialy jack on 3kz they even had jack calling the 2s ,pretty sure the major was his co caller

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4 minutes ago, forever demons said:

I miss lou and jack they were the best ever way back then,especialy jack on 3kz they even had jack calling the 2s ,pretty sure the major was his co caller

Jack "the problem with (insert player's name) is he goes where the ball ain't" Dyer.

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57 minutes ago, Dees_In_October said:

The one I hate (perhaps a bit irrationally) is when the umpire mic picks up something the umpire's said explaining their decision or just making their call and the commentator proceeds to say, "You heard the umpire", putting the viewer in one of two annoying positions:

#1 Yes, I did hear the umpire, thanks for redundantly pointing that out

Or, worse

#2 No, I didn't hear the umpire and now I'm left to wonder what they said because instead of using your commentary to summarise or (heaven forbid!) expand on what they said, you've instead utterly wasted that time with a statement that's utterly worthless.

Yes, if you're in position #1, it could be slightly annoying to have to listen to a repeat of what the umpire said if you've just heard it, but I'd hazard a guess that it would be MUCH less annoying than being in position #2 still with no idea what was said.

Also when one commentator repeatedly gets a player's name wrong within the game and apparently no one quietly corrects them off-air? Even though clearly the other commentators are all saying it correctly. Do they not have any quality control?

Case in point: how BT has always ALWAYS pronounced Salem "Sah-lem" not "Say-lem" like everyone else for some reason? And on one memorable occasion, "Slalom" and no, not even for some weak snow joke either. Gah!

Whenever they say "you heard the umpire" I always ask "why the bloody hell can't we hear them all the time instead of you cretins?"

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Insightful. Natural.

 

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22 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Jack "the problem with (insert player's name) is he goes where the ball ain't" Dyer.

and he was right

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1 minute ago, forever demons said:

and he was right

I often recalled this 'Dyerism' when I watched Jack Watts play footy. 

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7 hours ago, DeeZee said:

I love the old ABC days , just describing the play and not being too opinionated and cheesy with the jokes.

Why do I need anyone to describe the play? I’m watching on TV, I can see what’s happening.

Give me one footy lover who sounds good and knows all the players names, and one expert who might not be as polished but can add some genuine insight - ideally a recently out of the system coach.