POSTGAME: Rd 08 vs Sydney

[old dee 23,704]

I have canned Spargo a lot but have to say he is now worth his spot. Still wish he would actually get the ball a bit more. But some good games so far this year.

[Nascent 9,063]

Just watching the replay and it's astonishing how many tackles went unrewarded for holding-the-ball. There must have been at least a dozen of incorrect disposals with nothing given. The worst of which were those where players just dropped the ball when tackled. Felt bad for lever when Hayward dropped the ball immediately when lever tackled him only for the umpire to penalise lever for falling into his back afterwards.

 

[Pates 9,655]

43 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Just watching the replay and it's astonishing how many tackles went unrewarded for holding-the-ball. There must have been at least a dozen of incorrect disposals with nothing given. The worst of which were those where players just dropped the ball when tackled. Felt bad for lever when Hayward dropped the ball immediately when lever tackled him only for the umpire to penalise lever for falling into his back afterwards.

 

That Max Gawn tackle in the 3rd quarter was baffling that it wasn’t paid, the player was given plenty of opportunity and in no way disposed of it cleanly. For a big ruckman to make such an awesome tackle and it go unrewarded must be frustrating to Max. 

To be fair the umps missed some big calls on Sydney’s side as well. 

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4 hours ago, old dee said:

I have canned Spargo a lot but have to say he is now worth his spot. Still wish he would actually get the ball a bit more. But some good games so far this year.

 

[MT64 1,144]

10 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Only 15k turned up for the Hawks v Eagles game today…. The family club indeed, must have all been at Mother’s Day lunches. 

Being a lovely day, a lot of dogs (financial members) were down the park chasing balls. A friend off mine has her dog signed up as a Hawks member. Go figure.

Edited May 9, 2021 by MT64

[MT64 1,144]

7 hours ago, old dee said:

I have canned Spargo a lot but have to say he is now worth his spot. Still wish he would actually get the ball a bit more. But some good games so far this year.

His tackling is a real feature of his game. Creates opportunities for teammates to pounce on loose balls. Love the way how he stands up to much taller/stronger players. 

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,218]

3 hours ago, MT64 said:

His tackling is a real feature of his game. Creates opportunities for teammates to pounce on loose balls. Love the way how he stands up to much taller/stronger players. 

(re Spargo). I was in the 'too small, too slow, can't kick far enough, can't tackle, no tricks' camp. Happily the football department didn't share this view.

He certainly has developed into a good player. In particular his tackling has improved out of sight. He is also a smart player.

Glad to be wrong !!!

Edited May 9, 2021 by bingers

[TRIGON 4,783]

13 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Gee I wouldnt have picked swans supporters as being ferral but there looked to be quite a few mongrels in the crowd.

Kudos to 'Big Red Hand Man' Swannie who was giving T.Mac lip before he kicked that 'around the corner goal'...he had the good grace to applaud it afterwards...watch the replay of it if you can.

[Kent 2,905]

9 hours ago, Nascent said:

Just watching the replay and it's astonishing how many tackles went unrewarded for holding-the-ball. There must have been at least a dozen of incorrect disposals with nothing given. The worst of which were those where players just dropped the ball when tackled. Felt bad for lever when Hayward dropped the ball immediately when lever tackled him only for the umpire to penalise lever for falling into his back afterwards.

 

Haywood flopped like a dead Mackerel

[leave it to deever 17,511]

15 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Kudos to 'Big Red Hand Man' Swannie who was giving T.Mac lip before he kicked that 'around the corner goal'...he had the good grace to applaud it afterwards...watch the replay of it if you can.

Maybe he was being humble and sporting.

Or maybe he was just giving us all that finger again.

Im just glad it didnt put Tmac off his kick.

That bloke is the best kick about.

Slippery ball.

Scoreboard pressure.

From the boundary.

A bloke waving a gigantic hand at you talking about the weather.

Still naiiled it.

He just needs to teach Max and Trac.

Edited May 9, 2021 by leave it to deever

[leave it to deever 17,511]

30 minutes ago, bingers said:

(re Spargo). I was in the 'too small, too slow, can't kick far enough, can't tackle, no tricks' camp. Happily the football department didn't share this view.

He certainly has developed into a good player. In particular his tackling has improved out of sight. He is also a smart player.

Glad to be wrong !!!

His chasing, tackling and shielding is fantastic. 

Hes not the most skilled out there but I reckon is one of the hardest working players we have for sure.

His goal was at a crucial time.

Watching the replay, you appreciare how much he does. 

He is one to point to for that classic line....possies dont mean everything.

Is it worth giving him some time in the middle?

[BW511 2,635]

10 hours ago, Nascent said:

Just watching the replay and it's astonishing how many tackles went unrewarded for holding-the-ball. There must have been at least a dozen of incorrect disposals with nothing given. The worst of which were those where players just dropped the ball when tackled. Felt bad for lever when Hayward dropped the ball immediately when lever tackled him only for the umpire to penalise lever for falling into his back afterwards.

 

I commented on that one in the gameday thread. It is a pet hate of mine - players just drop the ball and get rewarded for holding the man against or in the back in this instance. Hayward definitely locked Jake's arm in and pulled him forward on top of himself

Lever did exceptionally well to remain as calm as he did.

 

 

[Vagg 2,437]

11 hours ago, old dee said:

I have canned Spargo a lot but have to say he is now worth his spot. Still wish he would actually get the ball a bit more. But some good games so far this year.

What I particularly like about Spargo is his ball use.  Whenever he has ball in hand I am very confident that he will hit up a team-mate inside 50.  Simply sublime, albeit under-rated, talent.  Love the kid!

[Nasher 33,607]

39 minutes ago, BW511 said:

I commented on that one in the gameday thread. It is a pet hate of mine - players just drop the ball and get rewarded for holding the man against or in the back in this instance. Hayward definitely locked Jake's arm in and pulled him forward on top of himself

Lever did exceptionally well to remain as calm as he did.

 

 

I love the way Lever behaves in the face of frustration - you could tell that decision tested him to the max. A bounce on the spot and a vigorous grimace, watch the replay, then back on with it. Never argues with the umpire - recognises that it's a completely fruitless practice and a waste of energy. 

I hated that free kick, but was over it by the time an identical one was paid at the other end for Pickett a bit later. At least they were consistent.

[Cards13 9,117]

46 minutes ago, BW511 said:

I commented on that one in the gameday thread. It is a pet hate of mine - players just drop the ball and get rewarded for holding the man against or in the back in this instance. Hayward definitely locked Jake's arm in and pulled him forward on top of himself

Lever did exceptionally well to remain as calm as he did.

 

 

My pet hate is the hold the man rule or total lack of. How many times does a player literally not have possession, they may have touched the ball with 1 hand for a split second, and yet they are tackled or dragged off the ball. 

[old dee 23,704]

42 minutes ago, Vagg said:

What I particularly like about Spargo is his ball use.  Whenever he has ball in hand I am very confident that he will hit up a team-mate inside 50.  Simply sublime, albeit under-rated, talent.  Love the kid!

I am not at the last line status yet Vagg that is a ways off. 

[Tarax Club 3,859]

Stuff happens in the blink of an eye in a game of footy. To be fair Bingers well seen. Will be booking our good selves in at specsavers in due course.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Tarax Club
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[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

15 hours ago, Monocology said:

...... caught glimse of tellie, you know the ground broadcast which is generally free of the garbage on Ch7, & spotted Williams circling possibly the back 6 huddle, chewing his gum, intense yet steely composed, & giving instruction yet not using any eye contact whatsoever - like the guy in Apocalypse Now during a napalm strike.

"Can you smell that? Soggy chips, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of soggy chips after a game. One time we played Adelaide at Adelaide. Sell out crowd. Scores level at three quarter time, then we piled on ten goals to nothing in the last. When the final siren blew I looked into the stands. Not one Crows fan there. Just piles of soggy chips. The smell, you know that squashed potato smell, the whole grandstand. Smelled like ...... victory ........................................ someday this season is gonna end."

[hardtack 10,511]

12 hours ago, old dee said:

I have canned Spargo a lot but have to say he is now worth his spot. Still wish he would actually get the ball a bit more. But some good games so far this year.

The main impact of Spargo is that his pressure enables team mates to get more of the ball. And when he does get it himself, he rarely wastes it.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,629]

41 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I love the way Lever behaves in the face of frustration - you could tell that decision tested him to the max. A bounce on the spot and a vigorous grimace, watch the replay, then back on with it. Never argues with the umpire - recognises that it's a completely fruitless practice and a waste of energy. 

I hated that free kick, but was over it by the time an identical one was paid at the other end for Pickett a bit later. At least they were consistent.

 consistently bad.

[jnrmac 20,053]

12 hours ago, Nascent said:

Just watching the replay and it's astonishing how many tackles went unrewarded for holding-the-ball. There must have been at least a dozen of incorrect disposals with nothing given. The worst of which were those where players just dropped the ball when tackled. Felt bad for lever when Hayward dropped the ball immediately when lever tackled him only for the umpire to penalise lever for falling into his back afterwards.

 

The Swans dropped the ball pretty much every time they got tackled and couldn't get a disposal off. Its a tactic they use.

The frustration of the rule is that right there. If the ball spills out in the tackle its considered play on (so long as no prior).

Its ajudged so differently by 3 different umpires within a game its a total farce.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

On 5/9/2021 at 10:58 AM, Pollyanna said:

A lot of things to take away from that game, not least that we won while losing the centre clearances 4-17 and that will be discussed in detail elsewhere.  I want to focus on one thing here and that is the magnificent game by TMac.  I have never seen a more complete game by an MFC key forward under very difficult conditions. 

Four goals himself - all in different ways - first a classic get separation on the lead in a congested forward line, next a run down tackle and goal from a very difficult angle, then a weaving collection and run in heavy traffic for a great left foot snap and the delicious icing - sure Bolton probably won the car on Friday night but for me Tom's pack mark from four deep to seal the match was the greater mark - just awesome - his confidence was up and his leap at the ball was majestic. And not forgetting that he gave two great goals away - an unselfish great vision spot up of Ben Brown and the other to rival his pack mark - a magnificent running with the flight spoil, clean gather and lightning handball to Trac.

Massive kudos to Tom McDonald - match winner.

It was a Leo Barry for sure, if not better...unbelievable.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Wadda We Sing

[hardtack 10,511]

2 hours ago, longsuffering said:

 consistently bad.

I actually feel for the umpires as they, like the players, are having to make split second decisions and therefore are not always going to get it right.  Unfortunately, they don't have the benefit of slow motion replays from countless angles, but have to make a decision based on where they are standing in relation to the action... people might say they should consider the decision before blowing the whistle, but then those same people would probably complain because the umpire took so long to signal the free; they're damned either way.  This is not meant as a serious suggestion, but maybe they should introduce an appeals system like in cricket, where a team has two or three appeals available to them... but, to make them think twice before they appeal, if the appeal fails, a 50m penalty is applied ?.

And I certainly do not buy into the conspiracy theories that have the umpires (or certain umpires) hating the Dees.

Edited May 10, 2021 by hardtack

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2 hours ago, Cards13 said:

My pet hate is the hold the man rule or total lack of. How many times does a player literally not have possession, they may have touched the ball with 1 hand for a split second, and yet they are tackled or dragged off the ball. 

Hearing ya man.
I hate that one too.
Even when our players do it I cringe. 

[Monocology 1,109]

3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

"Can you smell that? Soggy chips, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of soggy chips after a game. One time we played Adelaide at Adelaide. Sell out crowd. Scores level at three quarter time, then we piled on ten goals to nothing in the last. When the final siren blew I looked into the stands. Not one Crows fan there. Just piles of soggy chips. The smell, you know that squashed potato smell, the whole grandstand. Smelled like ...... victory ........................................ someday this season is gonna end."

'.....never get out of the queue for Red Rooster chips..... absolutely goddamn right!.....unless you were goin' aaaaall the way (premiership)'