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ALEX RANCE VS JAKE LEVER
ALEX RANCE VS JAKE LEVER

ALEX RANCE IN 2017

Disposals 16.0

Contested possessions 6.8

Intercept marks 3.2

Intercept possessions 9.4

Spoils 8.4

One-on-one mark win % 8.5

One-on-one win % 36.9

One-on-one loss %14.9

 

JAKE LEVER IN 2021

Disposals 16.2

Contested possessions 7.7

Intercept marks 4.8

Intercept possessions 11.2

Spoils 5.7

One-on-one mark win % 27.3

One-on-one win % 36.4

One-on-one loss % 22.7

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    17 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Are they going to snub him for the AA team like they did to May last season?

    He should be a lock.

    No one is a lock after 6 games in a 22 game season. Still a long way to go, but Jake has been outstanding, as has our entire defensive unit.

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    Lever isn't a sniper like Rance, nor does he spit the dummy like Rance.

    Much better than Rance at the same age. 

    Give me Jake any day.

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    1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Lever isn't a sniper like Rance, nor does he spit the dummy like Rance.

    Much better than Rance at the same age. 

    Give me Jake any day.

    But, but, but...we paid two first rounders for him remember.

    I never understood the argument we paid too much. He was always going to star for us and part of the timing for him to hit this form was due to our system not allowing him to work to his strengths. Tomlinson has been a key to this

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    1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Lever isn't a sniper like Rance, nor does he spit the dummy like Rance.

    Much better than Rance at the same age. 

    Give me Jake any day.

    wtf. ask any supporter from any other club and they will make you look like a fool. Rance is one of the all time greats. Lever has strung 6 good games together.

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    I'm much more excited about our defensive combination than I am about whether any given one of them outperforms Rance.

    Of course, that can't be said without also nodding to the fact that Lever showed magnificent leadership keeping our defense confident and organised after May went down.

    Also worth noting that if not for the stats hole created by Tom Hawkins elbow, May's numbers would be just as good.

    Hold this Lever-May-Tomlinson set of tall defenders together and in form and they will go down in history alongside the likes of the Scarlett-Harley-Taylor trio.

    But that is ambition, not yet reality. Ambition definitely worth having, though.

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    He won't make AA because Bruce has retired so isn't screaming his name in ecstasy into a microphone and 'Lever' has too many syllables for BT to handle.

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    Different players, never like these comparisons.

    Rance was a full back who had incredible intercept ability. Whereas Lever is simply a specialist intercept player. 

    Always loved Lever at Adelaide and knew we needed an Adelaide type defensive setup for him to really play to the best of his ability. And finally we have two big gorilla's for that. To think he was going to be able to do what he's been able to with Oscar as a key post was almost comical. That and the fact he's had his first full pre season with us since arriving helps. 

    Rance was unbelievable at his peak and one of the best full backs we've ever seen. 

    Comparing Rance to May would be more appropriate if there's to be a comparison. Both play the same position and have a great ability to intercept also. 

     

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    Reviewing the OP, I'm not sure why the WA Premier is interested in the comparison between Rance and Lever. \

    Unless he's trying to poach him for one of the WA teams...

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    55 minutes ago, deeTRACted said:

    Pretty sure Lever never hit someone who was on the ground in the back of the head. 

     

    once again, another ill-informed post. If May wasn't playing for Melbourne you'd be saying he was dirty too (runs past the ball, leaves the ground, hits Martin high etc.). I love May but to say Lever is better than Rance because Rance did something dirty is laughable and biased to cringe worthy levels. No-one in their right mind would take Lever over Rance. 

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    3 hours ago, Dr.D said:

    wtf. ask any supporter from any other club and they will make you look like a fool. Rance is one of the all time greats. Lever has strung 6 good games together.

    Read my post again.  I said Lever is better than Rance at the same age.  He was an AA in his early 20's before cruelled by injuries for several years and and will have more AA's before he retires.  Compare them then and I won't be the one looking like a fool.

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    25 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Read my post again.  I said Lever is better than Rance at the same age.  He was an AA in his early 20's before cruelled by injuries for several years and and will have more AA's before he retires.  Compare them then and I won't be the one looking like a fool.

    wait, so let me get this straight, you think Lever will be better than Rance? Lol. you're embarrassing yourself.  Lever isn't even better than May. Let alone Rance. Rance was an all time great. He performed in grand finals. He shut down big and smalls. lever is an intercept defender that isn't that strong one on one. Stop comparing all time great to dees players that are in good form. 
     

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    A Melbourne player is being compared favourably with a star of the modern game. This is good news in anyone's language and is a sign of our increasing relevancy. Who "wins" is secondary. Compare away, media!

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    But Lever has the ‘tache, so there’s that.

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    Both very good players in their own right.

    Lever can finally play to his strengths now that Thommo can take the other opposition KPF. He is an outstanding intercept player who just reads the play so well. Fingers crossed he can stay fit and healthy because, other than injury, on current form and trajectory he’ll be an AA for sure.

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    Give me Lever anyday. Rance was nothing but a religious fruit loop or at least pretends to be.

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    I always thought Rance was overrated. He was certainly ordinary one on one

    Commentators always got a stiff one over Rance

    He was good, but not awesome in my eyes

    Lever has been outstanding this year

    6 games in....

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    I hate these comparisons to former top players, Lever isn’t having a Rance-like year, he’s having a Lever-outstanding year. 

    Just like Kozzie isn’t the next Cyril Rioli, he’s the first Kozzie Pickett. 

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    Jake is 4 AA and 3 picture books behind but time is on his side. 

     

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    Rance is one of the most overrated players of all time. 
    best defender ever they’d ask? Certainly the best if the modern era?

    please. He left and the Tigers got better. A very good defender for sure but as good as the media say? No way

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    1 hour ago, kryton101 said:

    But Lever has the ‘tache, so there’s that.

    So it's Lever by a whisker, then.

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    12 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Jake is 4 AA and 3 picture books behind but time is on his side. 

     

    I would suggest one or two of those AA's were 'gifts' and Rance has only one 'picture hook'/premiership medal. 

    Don't care about the AA's but would be very happy for Jake to surpass Rance's medal count. 

    Plenty of time for Jake to do that.

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    Both Lever and Rance are/were beneficiaries of good defensive structures that make their success almost inevitable. 
    The number of times the opposition pop it up for Lever to easily intercept would be embarrassing for them, if it wasn’t a deliberate result of us executing our game plan. 
    Both great players, but Rance was a prat... so Lever by a mile. 

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