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LATEST LIST HERE: 3 June 2021

Updated for Turner and Declase, our mid season rookies contracted for 6 months.  They are replacements for our LTI players Tomlinson and Nietschke.

Also updated the Free Agency status of affected players.

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The final list post draft updated for games played at start of 2021.

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My read of the rules and recent media reports are that we have 2 'A' rookie spots available for the SSP draft or next year's mid-season draft.  Some posters have a different view about the number of rookie spots but I'll leave it at 2 until we hear otherwise from the club.  We can create more rookie spots if we have a LTI or a player 'retires' and becomes inactive.

Possible Milestones, in the Home and Away season:

  • 50 Games: Aaron VandenBerg, Sam Weideman, Charlie Spargo,
  • 100 Games:  Alex Neal-Bullen, Clayton Oliver, Angus Brayshaw, Jake Lever, Ed Langdon
  • 150 Games:  Max Gawn, Steven May, Ben Brown
  • 200 Games:  Jake Melksham
  • 300 Games:  Nathan Jones.

An interesting list of OOC players in 2021:

  • Probable retirements:  Nathan Jones and Neville Jetta. 
  • FA:  Max Gawn who isn't going anywhere
  • RFA:  Christian Salem who I hope isn't going anywhere but will undoubtedly have suitors. 
  • Of the 18 players OOC I can only find 3 'must sign':  Gawn, Oliver and Salem.  I would like to see Weideman signed up but that may depend on how he, Brown, Jackson and McDonald fare.  Bradtke is a project player so he is a re-sign. 
  • So potentially a year for a high list turnover.
  • A significant number of recruits (9 players) in recent years who have played 0-25 games.  It will be fun to watch who takes the next step.

The 2021 interest on contracts is:

  • if/when Oliver re-signs and how long for.  If he stays I would say it is 2 years until he reaches his 8 years for RFA status.
  • if/when Salem re-signs - technically free to walk to club of his choice and we get an FA comp pick.
  • if/when Weidmen re-signs and how long for.  If he stays I would say it is 2 years until he reaches his 8 years for RFA status.

Let me know if any data is incorrect and I fill change the chart in one go a the end of the year.

The 2020 thread can be found here:

 

 

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On 12/15/2020 at 5:07 PM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

we can match salem if he is offered a contract by another club

like you, he's a must-keep for mine

I’m the same, family were all Bummer supporters and I sure they would be into him: as would Andrew McGrath from his old school. 
So, must keep!

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On 12/22/2020 at 10:09 AM, Dee Dee said:

I’m the same, family were all Bummer supporters and I sure they would be into him: as would Andrew McGrath from his old school. 
So, must keep!

Just so you know Adem Yze was a very keen Dons  man. However he finished his playing days as a one club player. 271 games.

I don't think Salem is going anywhere any time soon. However,  Interesting to see what Oliver is thinking. Hope he signs. Soon!

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It is a must that we resign Oliver and Weid, although Salem does not concern me as much.He is reasonably consistent without starring.

 

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On 12/15/2020 at 4:07 PM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

we can match salem if he is offered a contract by another club

like you, he's a must-keep for mine

Absolutely 

Depending upon Where Salo plays I am tipping he might almost be an A grader at this years end. That would/may alter his price to outside suitors but really I would expect him to be offered a fair contract for a 3/4 year term by the Dees, and to accept it. Probably in the $5/6/700, 000 per annum or $2mill Or near for 3 years perhaps.

Main reason I believe he will improve Again to another level  ( like Trac) is that his last few games in 2020 He played   with much greater urgency and Actually at a faster level Covering  more Ground more in the centre and half forward lines.If he is played on wing or half forward his impact will benefit his skill and impact on our teams form improvement.

I am aware some D/L ers are critical of ChristIan but urge them to look at his late form in '20 and also stop being critical because he was involved in the 2 Draft Roos decision  with Kelly and Tyson in the early teens.

Salo has plenty of skills that many other older players  in our list would be eternally grateful for. He is critical because of his versatility and hope he goes forward or wing to influence our conversion in 2021.

 

 

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On 12/22/2020 at 10:09 AM, Dee Dee said:

I’m the same, family were all Bummer supporters and I sure they would be into him: as would Andrew McGrath from his old school. 
So, must keep!

Lol Andrew McGrath? You do realise Salem was a good few years older then McGrath.. 

Andrew McGrath is going to play absolute 0% in whether Salem goes to the bombers or not, 0.

No link whatsoever except that they went to the same school.

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17 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Lol Andrew McGrath? You do realise Salem was a good few years older then McGrath.. 

Andrew McGrath is going to play absolute 0% in whether Salem goes to the bombers or not, 0.

No link whatsoever except that they went to the same school.

So that is the edited version, how incomprehensible was the original?

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Update for Lever and Gawn extension to 2024 and 2025 respectively.

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Now for the ones we all want to see:  Oliver and Salem!  And I would add Weideman.

 

Thanks to @whatwhatsaywhatfor his pick up of Lever details.

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Thanks LH for the quick update still a few to lock in but much improved.

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15 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Update for Lever and Gawn extension to 2024 and 2025 respectively.

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Now for the ones we all want to see:  Oliver and Salem!  And I would add Weideman.

 

 

FWIW, I agree with you that those 3 are the only MUST keeps on the 21 column. Of the rookies JJ will be uplifted and possibly Chandler and Bradtke should be kept.

You could have 8-10 changes from those 2 lists ending this year, which to me demonstrates great list management, with most players you want to retain still contracted beyond this year.

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6 hours ago, Redleg said:

You could have 8-10 changes from those 2 lists ending this year, which to me demonstrates great list management, with most players you want to retain still contracted beyond this year.

it's not really great list management really, the competition average every single season is 8 per team add in the shrinking list and it's just standard procedure

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2 hours ago, Turner said:

it's not really great list management really, the competition average every single season is 8 per team add in the shrinking list and it's just standard procedure

You missed my point, which was that the blokes we might move on, are all in their last contracted year, meaning no need to pay out their contracts.

In other words it could be a salary cap disaster, if the blokes you didn’t want, are all on longer contracts.

It wasn’t the number of players we might turn over, but rather that nearly all of them will be uncontracted at the end of the year. 

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Can now add Daw and D Smith to the rookie list.

Three players to focus on this year: Oliver, Salem, Weideman (in that order).

Very big years for Baker, Bedford, Lockhart, ANB, J Smith and vandenBerg. There are opportunities for each one to get into the 22 early in the season and take big steps towards a 2022 contract. But my expectations are not high for any of them except, maybe, ANB.

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Latest update for Daw and Smyth

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We have a complete list: 36 senior players, 6 A- rookies and 1 B-rookie.

My understanding of the mid-season draft is that if there is a LTI a player can be selected to replace them.  So we can do that with Hore and Nietschke, if we choose, particularly if there is a player we like that missed out in the draft.

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2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Latest update for Daw and Smyth

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We have a complete list: 36 senior players, 6 A- rookies and 1 B-rookie.

My understanding of the mid-season draft is that if there is a LTI a player can be selected to replace them.  So we can do that with Hore and Nietschke, if we choose, particularly if there is a player we like that missed out in the draft.

smith* the y is in deakyn

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2 hours ago, Turner said:

smith* the y is in deakyn

Thanks.  I can no longer edit the post so will fix it with the next update.

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I thought Langdon was out of contract end of this year, if so he has to be a priority signing as well. 

Maybe it’s just me but it feels like we have more best 22 players still unsigned this year than prior seasons(including James Jordan, ANB and Lockhart) usually it’s only the fringe and older players hoping for another year unsigned for next year and beyond at this point.  Even if we lock in Oliver I feel like we are going to loose a few we would rather not

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Update for Oliver 2 year contract (and spelling of Smith's name)

@GarboI update this table based on info in the media at the time a contract is signed.  I notice footywire has Langdon's contract expiring this year which I highly doubt as he wouldn't have come on a two year contract.  Let me know if you have seen other info on his contract and I will update accordingly.  We may have a few extra players unsigned this year but I suggest not many are 'must keep'. 

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Now for Salem's signature!

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31 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Update for Oliver 2 year contract (and spelling of Smith's name)

@GarboI update this table based on info in the media at the time a contract is signed.  I notice footywire has Langdon's contract expiring this year which I highly doubt as he wouldn't have come on a two year contract.  Let me know if you have seen other info on his contract and I will update accordingly.  We may have a few extra players unsigned this year but I suggest not many are 'must keep'. 

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Now for Salem's signature!

Thanks LH for all your hardwork and updates. So after Salem  Lochhart ,ANB Baker Bedford Hibberd 2years

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2 minutes ago, Kent said:

Thanks LH for all your hardwork and updates. So after Salem  Lochhart ,ANB Baker Bedford Hibberd 2years

Thank you.

If Hibberd doesn't play much this year he may struggle to get a new contract.  Agree with others but the club may want to keep options open and offer 1 year in some cases.   I would probably put Jordon up there on priority signing especially as he is an RFA this year (due to being delisted then rookied last year) and depending on how he plays I would like to see Weideman continue with us but right now he wouldn't be a top priority.

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