Who left: Braydon Preuss, Mitch Hannan

Who arrived: Ben Brown

2020 NAB AFL Draft picks: 18, 19, 28, 50, 89

Future picks: Melbourne completed another audacious future pick-swap, handing Brisbane its 2021 first-round selection for this year's picks No.18 and 19. As part of the deal, they will also earn a future second-round pick from the Lions. They had already earned a future third-round selection from the Western Bulldogs and a fourth-round selection from North Melbourne, handing its own future fourth-round selection to Adelaide. They also received another future fourth-round pick from Brisbane, but gave it to North Melbourne as part of the Brown deal.

We say: In a canny bit of business, Melbourne effectively turned a contracted Preuss into Brown. He will partner Sam Weideman and Luke Jackson in a developing Demons forward line, following the bargain basement deal with North Melbourne. Hannan goes to the Western Bulldogs, but Melbourne improved its draft stocks following pick-swaps with Brisbane, Adelaide and Sydney. That enabled the Demons to complete another pick-swap late on Thursday evening with the Lions that saw them essentially earn dual first-round selections (pick No.18 and 19) for a future first-round pick. - Riley Beveridge

Grade: 8/10 (ranked 6th)

Weird that they ranked us equal 3rd at 8/10 with Carlton and Geelong yet somehow manage to list us 6th rather than 4th (it isn't even alphabetical).  

Other weird rankings:

• GWS ranked 16th but got pick 11 for Williams (DFA), 2 extra 1st round picks for Cameron and better picks for Caldwell by standing their ground. 
• Yet Geelong ranked 4th for giving up 3 first round picks (less some back) for a player they should have got free.  Underestimated their op strategically.
• Lions ranked 7th yet added Daniher, Cockatoo and upgraded its 2021 picks: an extra 1st and an extra 2nd.

Their rankings seem based mostly on players in and out.  Rather shallow 'analysis' not giving due weight to picks in and out. A lot of finesse is required to maximise draft positions in 2020/2021 as Mahoney has shown.

Josh Mahoney’s next gig will be as a professional poker card shark in Vegas.

He is just so good at trading (upgrading) picks.

I give us 9/10. It would’ve been 10/10 (perhaps even higher) had we landed Isaac Smith.

 

I don’t like these ratings because they’re not particularly objective and nor do they take in the entire picture of the end of season recruiting process. Every club enters this period from a different position and they have different aims. Richmond’s recruiting was always going to differ from that of Adelaide or North Melbourne. Geelong was interesting in that many were advocating that the club with the oldest list by far should start looking to freshen up its list with young blood but instead, it refreshed with experience and ends with a relatively poor hand at the draft. Even so, the Cats have a good record through Stephen Wells with its recruiting. 

A better assessment would be achieved after the drafts and an even better one when a few years have passed and we’re aware of the outcome of all of the player movements including their effect on the player group. I wouldn’t be that. confident of the future today if I were a Collingwood fan.

  On 12/11/2020 at 20:29, Lucifer's Hero said:

Weird that they ranked us equal 3rd at 8/10 with Carlton and Geelong yet somehow manage to list us 6th rather than 4th (it isn't even alphabetical).  

Other weird rankings:

• GWS ranked 16th but got pick 11 for Williams (DFA), 2 extra 1st round picks for Cameron and better picks for Caldwell by standing their ground. 
• Yet Geelong ranked 4th for giving up 3 first round picks (less some back) for a player they should have got free.  Underestimated their op strategically.
• Lions ranked 7th yet added Daniher, Cockatoo and upgraded its 2021 picks: an extra 1st and an extra 2nd.

Their rankings seem based mostly on players in and out.  Rather shallow 'analysis' not giving due weight to picks in and out. A lot of finesse is required to maximise draft positions in 2020/2021 as Mahoney has shown.

GWS ranked 16th but got pick 11 for Williams (DFA), 2 extra 1st round picks for Cameron and better picks for Caldwell by standing their ground.

- in fairness they have lost some high quality players and although they have a strong draft hand, they will definitely be weaker on field next year 

Seen some articles online suggesting Brisbane and Carlton are winners out of trade period.. Brisbane gave up a first rounder for Daniher and grabbed Cockatoo- no guarantee either will make it on the park..

Carlton treat new player contracts like the Judd Visy deal of the century. Still no inside mid at that joint to support Cripps properly. 

  On 12/11/2020 at 21:00, SPC said:

Seen some articles online suggesting Brisbane and Carlton are winners out of trade period.. Brisbane gave up a first rounder for Daniher and grabbed Cockatoo- no guarantee either will make it on the park..

Carlton treat new player contracts like the Judd Visy deal of the century. Still no inside mid at that joint to support Cripps properly. 

Brisbane got daniher for free (Essendon got pick 7 as compo from AFL I believe). 

  On 12/11/2020 at 20:53, Demons11 said:

GWS ranked 16th but got pick 11 for Williams (DFA), 2 extra 1st round picks for Cameron and better picks for Caldwell by standing their ground.

- in fairness they have lost some high quality players and although they have a strong draft hand, they will definitely be weaker on field next year 

Yeah I agree. Although they negotiated well, they didn’t bring in any players of note and they don’t need more picks

Who left: Jye Caldwell, Jeremy Cameron, Aidan Corr, Zac Langdon, Zac Williams

plus Hately in the PSD. Massive losses which they won’t recover from

and from all the players their highest pick is only 10 in a compromised draft. 

Along with Pies and bombers, GWS had a terrible trade period 

  On 12/11/2020 at 20:37, Ron Burgundy said:

Josh Mahoney’s next gig will be as a professional poker card shark in Vegas.

He is just so good at trading (upgrading) picks.

I give us 9/10. It would’ve been 10/10 (perhaps even higher) had we landed Isaac Smith.

 

JM would have to be making millions day-trading on the ASX wouldn't he?

If the lame stream fake AFL hadn't included all the illegal trades, we would have won. Big!

Pretty ridiculous to rank anyone based on speculative picks in a National draft this year with a bunch of kids that didn't really play much footy so exposed form is limited

Selling the farm to get early picks this year is a high risk strategy IMO

Not saying that MFC didn't do ok - they targeted a need in Brown and got the job done for a very modest cost

So far our other needs in speed , skill , excellent delivery inside 50 are still to be addressed 

I doubt these are going to be sorted by picking one of two kids from the draft - hopefully I'm wrong

I do like the look of Macrae but suspect he will most likely go inside 15 so gone by the time our first pick rolls around  

Geez the collywoobles are getting smashed on SEN which is well deserved imo.

The excuses that Ned Guy was dribbling out reminded me of good old Eddie's dribble when a collingwood player (cant remember his name) ACCIDENTLY went out the front door and got arrested by the police but was actually looking for the bathroom and got confused and headed out the front door instead.

Obviously the BS excuses is contagious and must all be getting lessons from the top down at good old collywobbles.

And to top it off Bucks is in his last yr of a contract so the pressure will be massive on him and Eddie. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Bloody hilarious, they are pathethic.

Edited November 12, 20204 yr by DemonOX

  On 12/11/2020 at 21:07, DubDee said:

Yeah I agree. Although they negotiated well, they didn’t bring in any players of note and they don’t need more picks

Who left: Jye Caldwell, Jeremy Cameron, Aidan Corr, Zac Langdon, Zac Williams

plus Hately in the PSD. Massive losses which they won’t recover from

and from all the players their highest pick is only 10 in a compromised draft. 

Along with Pies and bombers, GWS had a terrible trade period 

That looks like the current premiership window is closed and they're going back to the draft?

  On 12/11/2020 at 23:56, DemonOX said:

Geez the collywoobles are getting smashed on SEN which is well deserved imo.

The excuses that Ned Guy was dribbling out reminded me of good old Eddie's dribble when a collingwood player (cant remember his name) ACCIDENTLY went out the front door and got arrested by the police but was actually looking for the bathroom and got confused and headed out the front door instead.

Obviously the BS excuses is contagious and must all be getting lessons from the top downat good old collywobbles.

And to top it off Bucks is in his last yr of a contract so the pressure will be massive on him and Eddie. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Bloody hilarious, they are pathethic.

rhymes with Beele Biddestoppen. Have you listened to the Roy and HG podcast episode on the incident... its gold!!! "Two fingers of Corio"

  On 12/11/2020 at 23:56, Cards13 said:

That looks like the current premiership window is closed and they're going back to the draft?

they don't have much choice!

Kelly and Whitfield will be onto their managers to get out too.

who is their run off HB now?  lost Wilson, Williams, Shaw. they are in big trouble.  poor things

  On 12/11/2020 at 20:37, Ron Burgundy said:

Josh Mahoney’s next gig will be as a professional poker card shark in Vegas.

He is just so good at trading (upgrading) picks.

I give us 9/10. It would’ve been 10/10 (perhaps even higher) had we landed Isaac Smith.

 

I'd give us 'perhaps' 10/10 for NOT landing Isaac Smith.

The trade for Brown was very good for us given the cost. And this is coming from someone who has some doubts about if our forward line will fit together next year with too many talls.

I think Preuss will be good for GWS and prove to be a negative outcome in terms of a trade. But, he was really insurance for us, so it made sense to let him go.

Hannan got a 3 year deal and we did the best we could in terms of return. It will be interesting if he gets a regular game for the Dogs. Bontempelli and English will play forward more next year (with Martin in the ruck) and they are getting another forward in the draft. And they picked up Cody Weightman last year.

Isaac Smith would have been a great addition and fit for us, so it was a shame to miss out.

It is a bit disappointing we didn't pick Collingwood's pocket for Phillips, Stephenson or Treloar, but we obviously wanted to maintain cap space and trade assets. I think we underestimated how badly the Pies needed to move players on and, in hind sight, we exited out of the race for Phillips and Treloar too early.

The pick swaps were slightly negative in terms of points, but obviously fit our strategy going into the draft and managing list sizes.

Overall, we started with a pretty weak hand in terms of assets and came out in front.

And hopefully being unable to move TMac is a blessing in disguise and he can return to being a very good AFL player.

I just wish all this [censored] was happening at Essendrug 

I hate them even more than the filth.

How did the pies manage a 1 out 10? Overs for mine.

  On 12/11/2020 at 21:07, Wunders said:

Brisbane got daniher for free (Essendon got pick 7 as compo from AFL I believe). 

Yep but they’ve played about 20 games between them in 3 years