spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 Rendell underwent his analysis of the Dees list. I don’t think he is fully across our list but provided some interesting conversation. Why Swiss Cheese? “Our list has holes through it” 1- “Their Kids under 22. Jackson will be a star. Oliver yes. Rivers good. Weideman yes. Pickett will be a star. Sparrow showed a bit. Petty yes but hadn’t really played. Perhaps light on and need more kids”. (imv yes - that what happens when you trade out for May and Lever for 3x 1st rounders. But we seem just ok for youth and will get 1-2 good kids this year). 2. “Key defender - Steven May super year. Lever much better. Tomlinson ok. Tmc and OMc to be out. Petty might be ok so need an extra key back “. (imv agree as a plan B in case May gets an injury. Perhaps use a pick 63 on recycled tall back) 3. key forwards - “now ok with Ben Brown coming onboard. Weideman gets 2nd best defender is ok. Brown Weideman Jackson as 3 key talls”. (yes no issue here and probably add in Mitch Brown as that plan B option) 4. Small forwards -“Pickett will be a star. Spargo. Bedford. Ok here”. (imv another pacy small forward would be handy in event Pickett needs to be managed through the year. Perhaps Bedford in that role already) 5. Defensive run - “Salem but he needs more run. Hibberd, is he even still on the list, Rivers he’s a good one. Jetta minds the smalls. So need 1-2 more backline runners”. (imv - agree - 1-2 half back/wing runners needed, and is a focus) 6 Tough Midfield inside “Viney, Oliver, Harmes, Brayshaw, Petracca, Jones and Sparrow. All ok for inside mids”. (absolutely agree) 7. Breaking midfield runners - “Langdon good but needs work on disposal. Perhaps needs a Treloar. “ (Imv definitely the priority need. Rendell failed to mention our quest for Isaac Smith or potential to go for Tom Phillips) 8. Ruck “With Preuss leaving, Dees need backup behind Gawn. Jackson not ready. Yes Andrew Phillips would be ok, fill the need”. (agree a plan B ruckman is needed just in case Maxy cops an injury or needs a break) 2 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Posted November 8, 2020 Rendell underwent his analysis of the Dees list. I don’t think he is fully across our list but provided some interesting conversation. Why Swiss Cheese? “Our list has holes through it” 1- “Their Kids under 22. Jackson will be a star. Oliver yes. Rivers good. Weideman yes. Pickett will be a star. Sparrow showed a bit. Petty yes but hadn’t really played. Perhaps light on and need more kids”. (imv yes - that what happens when you trade out for May and Lever for 3x 1st rounders. But we seem just ok for youth and will get 1-2 good kids this year). 2. “Key defender - Steven May super year. Lever much better. Tomlinson ok. Tmc and OMc to be out. Petty might be ok so need an extra key back “. (imv agree as a plan B in case May gets an injury. Perhaps use a pick 63 on recycled tall back) 3. key forwards - “now ok with Ben Brown coming onboard. Weideman gets 2nd best defender is ok. Brown Weideman Jackson as 3 key talls”. (yes no issue here and probably add in Mitch Brown as that plan B option) 4. Small forwards -“Pickett will be a star. Spargo. Bedford. Ok here”. (imv another pacy small forward would be handy in event Pickett needs to be managed through the year. Perhaps Bedford in that role already) 5. Defensive run - “Salem but he needs more run. Hibberd, is he even still on the list, Rivers he’s a good one. Jetta minds the smalls. So need 1-2 more backline runners”. (imv - agree - 1-2 half back/wing runners needed, and is a focus) 6 Tough Midfield inside “Viney, Oliver, Harmes, Brayshaw, Petracca, Jones and Sparrow. All ok for inside mids”. (absolutely agree) 7. Breaking midfield runners - “Langdon good but needs work on disposal. Perhaps needs a Treloar. “ (Imv definitely the priority need. Rendell failed to mention our quest for Isaac Smith or potential to go for Tom Phillips) 8. Ruck “With Preuss leaving, Dees need backup behind Gawn. Jackson not ready. Yes Andrew Phillips would be ok, fill the need”. (agree a plan B ruckman is needed just in case Maxy cops an injury or needs a break) 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,389 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) A basic run down but not too much to disagree with, except the Hibberd comment. Edited November 8, 2020 by Ethan Tremblay 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Posted November 8, 2020 In the end the view was actually quite optimistic. Rendell stated that as we just missed the final 8, he sees improvements and the stars in our midfield are still only in their early to mid 20s and heading into their prime. SOS saw our two-way running as the key weakness and Damien Barrett saw our port delivery into the forward 50 as a key issue. In terms of game plan and execution, they are both correct. 4 Quote
Queanbeyan Demon 7,049 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 If this is the best he can come up with . . . . . . I'd rather read the insights provided by 'Landers. 3 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,753 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 The idea we lack youth is ridiculous. We currently have the following players 22 or under on our list: Luke Jackson Charlie Spargo Toby Bedord James Jordon Trent Rivers Aaron Nietschke Tom Sparrow Harry Petty Kysaiah Pickett Kade Chandler Austin Bradtke That is 11 players 22 or under, or a quarter of the list. Plus we will also likely add 3-4 in the draft this year, granted we may also lose 1 or 2 off the above list. 4 2 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,880 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 i think we can all agree that rendell has no idea outside the collingwood list and - to a lesser degree - the adelaide list i'm just amazed he's yet to say something racist 1 Quote
The Jackson FIX 3,512 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 I found it a confused analysis. Said we were light on in the youth department but then went on to give a glowing review of almost every single one of our young fellas. 1 Quote
Pulp Fritschon 775 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 Did Rendell actually label our list Swiss cheese? 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Posted November 8, 2020 Yes. That was at start. He said he has a coffee regularly with Jason Taylor and that he would get a whack off JT for labeling us a Swiss Cheese list. Also started being concerned by our lack of youth. But then he addressed how many good players we have and that Jacko, Pickett and Rivers were excellent. At the end, I think the Swiss cheese label was not founded, like a Trump election fraud claim. 2 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,474 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 I can understand a lot of our strategy this year. We now have a proven key forward and now we have to back our young kids that we chose, and get the utmost talent out of them. That said i would be having a red hot crack at Jack Higgins 2 Quote
Cheesy D. Pun 1,765 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) This guy only has a job in the media because he was willing to spill every possible detail of the machinations of his previous employer (Collingwood). Not a smart move. He'll last another few months before that well of insight dries up and he's unemployable. Edited November 8, 2020 by Cheesy D. Pun 2 Quote
Biffen 12,949 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 Anyway we're more like a Stilton. Crumble easily. Often stink. Can sometimes be soft. 8 4 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Biffen said: Anyway we're more like a Stilton. Crumble easily. Often stink. Can sometimes be soft. BBO could best be described as a cheap brie: White and round Soft in the middle Plenty of fungus/mould in the crevices 2 2 Quote
Queanbeyan Demon 7,049 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 More like our main sponsor. Looks good from the outside and runs well for five minutes, then completely sh*$s itself under load and usually a long way from town (Cairns). Quote
58er 6,872 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 16 hours ago, Dingo said: No mention of Vanders That's where Vsnders is at !Sadly Smith or Lockhart for defensive run! Quote
58er 6,872 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said: I can understand a lot of our strategy this year. We now have a proven key forward and now we have to back our young kids that we chose, and get the utmost talent out of them. That said i would be having a red hot crack at Jack Higgins I am dusappoinred that we haven't gone for say Ohillips or Treloar or Stephenson or Polec. Two if those would help markedly Our running and forward skills And depth. All areIMO rest made players fro wing HF or outside mid running and better than most of our flankers and 2 Nd wingers o Th er than Langers. And there is a fire sale really fir a couple. Petty is such a crucial part of our KFp snd KbP otherwise Tommo and Smith ( if Tommy goes Or doesn't come up. Quote
dee-tox 4,835 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, 58er said: I am dusappoinred that we haven't gone for say Ohillips or Treloar or Stephenson or Polec. Two if those would help markedly Our running and forward skills And depth. All areIMO rest made players fro wing HF or outside mid running and better than most of our flankers and 2 Nd wingers o Th er than Langers. And there is a fire sale really fir a couple. Petty is such a crucial part of our KFp snd KbP otherwise Tommo and Smith ( if Tommy goes Or doesn't come up. Stop posting when you are drunk 58 or take the time to proofread what you post. This is an abortion. 2 4 Quote
poita 3,945 Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 23 hours ago, Action Jackson said: The idea we lack youth is ridiculous. We currently have the following players 22 or under on our list: Luke Jackson Charlie Spargo Toby Bedord James Jordon Trent Rivers Aaron Nietschke Tom Sparrow Harry Petty Kysaiah Pickett Kade Chandler Austin Bradtke At least five of whom should be delisted immediately because they simply aren't up to it. We have a major shortage of promising young midfielders and key position players, as a result of not taking enough first and round draft picks in the past five years.. 1 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, poita said: At least five of whom should be delisted immediately because they simply aren't up to it. We have a major shortage of promising young midfielders and key position players, as a result of not taking enough first and round draft picks in the past five years.. Plus, only 2-3 on the list would likely play every week. Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,753 Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, poita said: At least five of whom should be delisted immediately because they simply aren't up to it. We have a major shortage of promising young midfielders and key position players, as a result of not taking enough first and round draft picks in the past five years.. So you think all sides have multiple promising under 22 year olds? We don't need youth, we need experience and ready made players to go to the next level. I'm sick of going to the draft every year and waiting for players to develop and other sides win flags. We've got a great core group of players who are on the younger side. 1 Quote
durango 2,024 Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 I always ask why people like Matt Rendell give opinions about football and seem to never win premierships when they are in charge of the recuiting at a club, they are experts who have never had success. A friend of mine used to say an expert is a drip under pressure. Our recuiting has always been poor due to these recuiting experts hired by the club who lack the forsight and imagination. Quote
ProperDee 1,698 Posted November 9, 2020 Posted November 9, 2020 (imv agree as a plan B in case May gets an injury. Perhaps use a pick63 on recycled tall back) Logan Austin. Delisted ex-Saint. Quote
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