Farewell Sam Weideman

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2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No, by majority of supporters. 

We're all happy he's getting an opportunity but from a playing perspective he absolutely doesn't have a spot in our forward line ahead of JVR or Petty.

Even Ben Brown Brown who's played less gamed then Weideman this has kicked more goals then him still.

He's good bloke but.

Well that’s a better way of putting it. I just think “he won’t be missed” is a little harsh, but I’ll forgive you. 😊

What I won’t forgive is your choice to end a sentence with a conjunction.  Hard limit. 😁

[IRW 1,387]

Hows Jackson going ?

Are we missing him yet?

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

Ever looked at how players celebrate after kicking a goal. A good example was this week Daicos and Jackson and Nibbler.

Draw your own conclusions.

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On 4/25/2023 at 4:47 PM, Dee-monic said:

The Weid in a nutshell: A+ for character, A- for ability, B for consistency. If he can improve on the third category he still has an AFL future. Just sad that it wouldn't be with Melbourne.

His issue has always been competitiveness and appetite for the contest. He has everything else. The issue is they’re pretty big things at the highest level. 

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4 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

What I won’t forgive is your choice to end a sentence with a conjunction.  Hard limit. 😁

English teacher?

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1 hour ago, rjay said:

English teacher?

Proofreader. 😊

[DeeZone 9,821]

I am glad that Sam is getting a game and contributing, I watch all ex- Dee players and hope most do well at their new clubs, but not all (Scully,Jacko).

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18 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Well that’s a better way of putting it. I just think “he won’t be missed” is a little harsh, but I’ll forgive you. 😊

What I won’t forgive is your choice to end a sentence with a conjunction.  Hard limit. 😁

Are you also concerned with the rule about finishing sentences with prepositions? Is that something else you won't put up with? 🙂

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

15 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Proofreader. 😊

No good to me after half a bottle, those were the days....

[OutOfTheCentre21 180]

Sam Weideman has not kicked a goal in his past 7 AFL matches. 🤔

[dazzledavey36 54,861]

He's had to unfortunately delete his instagram account again (did this back in 2019).

Starting to question whether Scott is doing the right thing for his mental health simply by playing him when he's horribly out of form.

I also do worry if AFL footy is for him. We know once he drops his head that's it for him and he struggles to fight his way out of it.

Saw some pretty horrible and personal comments last night from Bombers supporters on social media directed at Weideman.

Needs a good 4 weeks at VFL level just to get back enjoying footy again because on observation last night he's not enjoying it one bit.

Edited July 15, 2023 by dazzledavey36

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2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's had to unfortunately delete his instagram account again (did this back in 2019).

Starting to question whether Scott is doing the right thing for his mental health simply by playing him when he's horribly out of form. I also do worry is AFL footy is for him. We know once he drops his head that's it for him and he struggles to fight his way out of it.

Saw some pretty horrible and personal comments last night from Bombers supporters on social media directed at Weideman.

Needs a good 4 weeks at VFL level just to get back enjoying footy again because on observation last night he's not enjoying it one bit.

As everyone knows. I have always been a  doubter on Sam from very early on. I feel very sorrow for him. I hope he gives it away and finds other things in life. There are lots Sam  

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Hope things turn around.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Demons3031

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The footy industry is brutal, so many entitled people out there all too happy to ignore the fact that AFL footballers are human too. There are a lot of examples of players coming out of the system quite damaged as a result of constant criticism with no way of escaping it.

I like Weideman and I hope things turn for him.

[The heart beats true 18,123]

It’s all about the frames of reference isn’t it?

He’s actually an incredibly talented footballer. To play 75 games of AFL footy you have to be. I know people who were extraordinary talented as juniors and were in National representative teams, who ended up on lists and never played a game. 

If he’s the kind of person who enjoys the process and the battle then it doesn’t really matter what the outside world thinks. If he’s the kind of person who is prone to view things through the prism of other people’s expectations, and evaluate himself against that, then that’s a really hard spot to be in. Interestingly this is true for all of us. You can always be a failure or a success. It’s how you frame it for yourself that defines it.

The sad reality is that a lot of the criticism would come from people who actually don’t achieve much in life. Once you’ve climbed a mountain you usually have a lot of respect for the mountain itself, and the other climbers. It’s easy to sit in Basecamp and think ‘I could do that, and those climbers are all doing it wrong’.

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Unfortunately the Bombers fans are turning on him already. Jeers.  Laughter. Oh no moments.  Even the sharp new haircut hasn’t helped. He’s goalkicking has gotten worse imv.  He’s a great young man.  You couldn’t wish to meet a nicer bloke.  I hope he can put together a few more improved efforts to show he’s capable (even if it’s in red and black ). 

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9 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

It’s all about the frames of reference isn’t it?

He’s actually an incredibly talented footballer. To play 75 games of AFL footy you have to be. I know people who were extraordinary talented as juniors and were in National representative teams, who ended up on lists and never played a game. 

If he’s the kind of person who enjoys the process and the battle then it doesn’t really matter what the outside world thinks. If he’s the kind of person who is prone to view things through the prism of other people’s expectations, and evaluate himself against that, then that’s a really hard spot to be in. Interestingly this is true for all of us. You can always be a failure or a success. It’s how you frame it for yourself that defines it.

The sad reality is that a lot of the criticism would come from people who actually don’t achieve much in life. Once you’ve climbed a mountain you usually have a lot of respect for the mountain itself, and the other climbers. It’s easy to sit in Basecamp and think ‘I could do that, and those climbers are all doing it wrong’.

"Incredibly talented footballer" is a bit of a stretch to be honest.

I accepted a while ago that I thought he was a good honest footballer who really does try his heart out, but still lacked the basics that you needed to take the next step of being a good key forward. 

He's very inconsistent and for such a guy that's right in his prime now he should be now influencing games, yet he still plays like a first year key forward.

Example is, he's had 8 years in the AFL system and yet he's never kicked 20 goals in a season at AFL level. The most he's kicked in a year is 19. Josh Schache for instance has even kicked 24 in one year.

When I think of incredibly talented players in the key forward stakes, the first two that come to mind are Aaron Naughton and Charlie Curnow. Weideman is not even remotely close to matching their talents.

He's actually a great guy off field and gives you that vibe that you badly want him to make it, but it's just not going to happen unfortunately. All good, better things in life then footy.

Edited July 16, 2023 by dazzledavey36

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It doesn’t matter if he’s a star or bog ordinary, nobody, and I mean nobody, deserves to be personally abused. 

It was awful when Melbourne supporters did it, and nothing has changed now that Essendon supporters are doing it.

People need to take a good hard look at themselves. If that was your kid copping this garbage, you’d be disgusted and heartbroken. Sam has always done his best. Football is a damn hard industry and not everyone succeeds. But most people don’t have the talent or the guts to even try. Those that do deserve the basic level of respect from the fat losers in the stands. 

[Demon Disciple 12,118]

Is not good enough for AFL and doesn’t have the drive/hunger to push himself to make the grade. That’s ok, AFL is not for everyone.

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1 hour ago, OutOfTheCentre21 said:

Sam Weideman has not kicked a goal in his past 7 AFL matches. 🤔

They should have re-signed Mitch Brown instead. 

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

For three bokes yesterday their lives changed. Did anyone notice?

One for Essendon. One for Carlton. One for MFC.

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Nothing you can do about hateful social media comments. Best thing is to stay away from Insta, twitter and all the rest of them until your career is finished.

the Weid is a decent back up player. Can cover injuries in the ruck and forward. He is not best 22 for any club in the league. That’s clear at this stage.

I hope things work out for him. He’s a decent lad by all accounts.

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55 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

"Incredibly talented footballer" is a bit of a stretch to be honest.

I accepted a while ago that I thought he was a good honest footballer who really does try his heart out, but still lacked the basics that you needed to take the next step of being a good key forward. 

He's very inconsistent and for such a guy that's right in his prime now he should be now influencing games, yet he still plays like a first year key forward.

Example is, he's had 8 years in the AFL system and yet he's never kicked 20 goals in a season at AFL level. The most he's kicked in a year is 19. Josh Schache for instance has even kicked 24 in one year.

When I think of incredibly talented players in the key forward stakes, the first two that come to mind are Aaron Naughton and Charlie Curnow. Weideman is not even remotely close to matching their talents.

He's actually a great guy off field and gives you that vibe that you badly want him to make it, but it's just not going to happen unfortunately. All good, better things in life then footy.

wasted pick 9 hope he gets going again he is not good to watch Feel sorrry for him

Alternative picks below

1	10	Carlton	Harry McKay	Carlton	103
1	11	Adelaide	Wayne Milera	Adelaide	90
1	12	Carlton	Charlie Curnow	Carlton	101
1	13	GWS	Matthew Kennedy A	Carlton	92
1	14	Brisbane	Eric Hipwood A	Brisbane	144
1	15	Richmond	Daniel Rioli	Richmond	153
1	16	GWS	Harrison Himmelberg A	GWS	143
1	17	Adelaide	Tom Doedee	Adelaide	82
1	18	St Kilda	Jade Gresham	St Kilda	129
1	19	Hawthorn	Ryan Burton	Port Adelaide	131
1	20	Gold Coast	Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	91
1	21	North Melbourne	Ben McKay	North Melbourne	64

 

Edited July 16, 2023 by Kent

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

All good, better things in life than footy.

Besides family and friends, name one other.

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27 minutes ago, Kent said:

wasted pick 9 hope he gets going again he is not good to watch Feel sorrry for him

Alternative picks below

1	10	Carlton	Harry McKay	Carlton	103
1	11	Adelaide	Wayne Milera	Adelaide	90
1	12	Carlton	Charlie Curnow	Carlton	101
1	13	GWS	Matthew Kennedy A	Carlton	92
1	14	Brisbane	Eric Hipwood A	Brisbane	144
1	15	Richmond	Daniel Rioli	Richmond	153
1	16	GWS	Harrison Himmelberg A	GWS	143
1	17	Adelaide	Tom Doedee	Adelaide	82
1	18	St Kilda	Jade Gresham	St Kilda	129
1	19	Hawthorn	Ryan Burton	Port Adelaide	131
1	20	Gold Coast	Brayden Fiorini	Gold Coast	91
1	21	North Melbourne	Ben McKay	North Melbourne	64

 

 No one gets everything right all the time and JT has a great strike rate.

When drafted he was seen as an exciting talent. It just hasn’t happened for him.

Agree with other posters, that he is a lovely guy to meet, but of course we don’t want lovely guys, we want great footballers.

PS: did we ever try him down back?

Edited July 16, 2023 by Redleg