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Farewell Sam Weideman

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I saw him kick 4.3 v the bombers so Im still a little hopeful. But as it stands now he remains one of the very very few errors Taylor has made. 

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    If T Mac's still in our planned best 22 for 2023 and they anticipate JVR will be ready to play AFL, the club really needs to strongly encourage Weid to actively look for a new club next year, even if we only get a ham sandwich for him.

    He's good enough to play 22 games for a club lacking key forward options (eg - Pies, North, Essendon). Sam should prioritise  playing a regular game over the hope of winning a flag at this point in time. 

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    8 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    If T Mac's still in our planned best 22 for 2023 and they anticipate JVR will be ready to play AFL, the club really needs to strongly encourage Weid to actively look for a new club next year, even if we only get a ham sandwich for him.

    He's good enough to play 22 games for a club lacking key forward options (eg - Pies, North, Essendon). Sam should prioritise  playing a regular game over the hope of winning a flag at this point in time. 

    Great BBP you have in your post disregarded the 2 major reasons why Weid won't be looking for a new Club in 2023. 

    1. He is contracted till the end of that year and in end of season 2021 he  made the very conscious decision and after much deliberation to stay with Narrm.

    2. Also at this stage the Club values his presence as either in AFL or as much needed forward KP depth irrespective of Tmac, BBB, JVR, Fritta, and the resting rucks. Unless it was interested in a trade Weid is safe for another season, as I also believe little by little he is improving in most of his game skills.

     

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    43 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    If T Mac's still in our planned best 22 for 2023 and they anticipate JVR will be ready to play AFL, the club really needs to strongly encourage Weid to actively look for a new club next year, even if we only get a ham sandwich for him.

    He's good enough to play 22 games for a club lacking key forward options (eg - Pies, North, Essendon). Sam should prioritise  playing a regular game over the hope of winning a flag at this point in time. 

    And if either Jackson or Gawn miss game, who rucks? Daw?

    Weid is depth, he'd be being paid as such, no reason to force him out the door given it won't give us much cap space and we can't use 'Ham Sandwich' as a backup ruck or key forward depth.

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    7 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

    Its not his 'official' nickname, it's just one kicking around supporters on social media.

    The players call him "Big Sexy". (Not kidding)

    That's funny. My friends call me that as well.

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    8 hours ago, DeeZone said:

    Maybe the kid knows something we don’t.😀😀✅

    Not goat photos, surely.  😱

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    6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    If T Mac's still in our planned best 22 for 2023 and they anticipate JVR will be ready to play AFL, the club really needs to strongly encourage Weid to actively look for a new club next year, even if we only get a ham sandwich for him.

    He's good enough to play 22 games for a club lacking key forward options (eg - Pies, North, Essendon). Sam should prioritise  playing a regular game over the hope of winning a flag at this point in time. 

    When we were rubbish there was always talk of our better players leaving to go find success and now we are good (great) there is talk of players leaving to just get regular games.

    I really want Weideman to be better, his chance was the decline of McDonald but he’s now a lock again after being dropped.

    Only injuries to key forwards or our rucks will see him likely to get a game which is a shame because when he clicks (that strong mark and goal late in the Essendon game) he looks unstoppable.

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    12 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

    Its not his 'official' nickname, it's just one kicking around supporters on social media.

    The players call him "Big Sexy". (Not kidding)

    Unlike Sam and other posters I've never been called "big sexy". Which, in all the circumstances, isn't that surprising.

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    TMAC will inevitably slow after 2023 and Sam will have a great opportunity to come through with a fantastic young group. He is smart for re-signing with us. It’s not just about the group we have now, but the group we will have 2-3 years down the track. Weideman is 24. That is still young. He can bide his time in the VFL, and shall an opportunity present - he will be capable of stepping in. Worse case for him, he bides his time, and comes through with the next group of players in a couple years time. 

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    3 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

    TMAC will inevitably slow after 2023 and Sam will have a great opportunity to come through with a fantastic young group. He is smart for re-signing with us. It’s not just about the group we have now, but the group we will have 2-3 years down the track. Weideman is 24. That is still young. He can bide his time in the VFL, and shall an opportunity present - he will be capable of stepping in. Worse case for him, he bides his time, and comes through with the next group of players in a couple years time. 

    Technically 24, but 25 in just a month, and 26 end of season next year when he's OOC and the club has to make a call on him. I don't think he has time on his side for comingg through with the next group of players if next year isn't the one where he steps up and solidifies a spot in the best 22.

    Our list manager next year is going to be weighing up whether a 26 year old key forward that hasn't broken into the side, is worth the cap space, given there are alternative options like targeting a free agent or trading for a full forward in the 2023 trade period.  Re-signing Weid and hoping he will be good enough to be in the team is the kind of leap of faith that could see us (in 2024) with a broken forward line connection, unable to capitalise on all of the inside 50's again like in 2019-2020, that would have us back in the middle tier pack. 

    We'll see what happens anyway, I could be wrong and of course, hope he proves me wrong.

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    15 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    If T Mac's still in our planned best 22 for 2023 and they anticipate JVR will be ready to play AFL, the club really needs to strongly encourage Weid to actively look for a new club next year, even if we only get a ham sandwich for him.

    He's good enough to play 22 games for a club lacking key forward options (eg - Pies, North, Essendon). Sam should prioritise  playing a regular game over the hope of winning a flag at this point in time. 

    He's an injury to TMac, Brown, Jackson or Gawn away from moving back into the seniors. He re-signed last year knowing that was going to be his lot. Why, now, would he change his mind?

    At any rate, unless he gives up on us and wants out, there is no way in hell I'd be pushing him out for a so-called "ham sandwich".

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    1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

    Technically 24, but 25 in just a month, and 26 end of season next year when he's OOC and the club has to make a call on him. I don't think he has time on his side for comingg through with the next group of players if next year isn't the one where he steps up and solidifies a spot in the best 22.

    Our list manager next year is going to be weighing up whether a 26 year old key forward that hasn't broken into the side, is worth the cap space, given there are alternative options like targeting a free agent or trading for a full forward in the 2023 trade period.  Re-signing Weid and hoping he will be good enough to be in the team is the kind of leap of faith that could see us (in 2024) with a broken forward line connection, unable to capitalise on all of the inside 50's again like in 2019-2020, that would have us back in the middle tier pack. 

    We'll see what happens anyway, I could be wrong and of course, hope he proves me wrong.

    We wouldn’t have a broken forward line connection. Weideman currently plays alongside JVR and they work well. He also works well playing alongside Brown in the VFL. He knows those around him. Bringing in someone else, they’d have to learn that. If we sign him on at the end of next year, and providing he isn’t getting a regular game, he’d be on a low wage. I like Sam as a player, and I believe he will get better as he matures. We pretty much lose nothing keeping him. If we do lose Jackson in the next year or so, Weideman is also a handy chop out for the ruck - if need be. Bloke is versatile. I still believe he will be a player for us. 

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    3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    He's an injury to TMac, Brown, Jackson or Gawn away from moving back into the seniors. He re-signed last year knowing that was going to be his lot. Why, now, would he change his mind?

    At any rate, unless he gives up on us and wants out, there is no way in hell I'd be pushing him out for a so-called "ham sandwich".

    Maybe, after another season of being in and out of the side, and for arguments sake, is not seen after round 18, I would say it's a possibility that he changes his mindset and  would look for another club where it's almost certain he'll be playing 20-22 games a season.

    The guy's in his 7th season of footy and clearly has enough talent to be a staple in a club's forward line, rather than playing VFL 2 in every 3 games.

    I'd rather keep him, but also don't want to stand in his way if a better opportunity arises for him next year, on the assumption that T Mac ends the year in strong form.

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    We are all living In optimism that the Weid will take the anger and intensity pills and take his opportunity.  He has all the tools. His height and athleticism and goalkicking are key assets. But his marking (sure handling) and intensity need to lift on a consistent basis. Hopefully today he can show us something that rewards the Dees faith in him. 
     

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    We are darn lucky to have the Weed waiting in the wings to fill in.

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    3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Hmmm Dees v Freo. 
    Weid 1st half was crap. 

    Constantly worked under the ball by Freo backs.

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    He doesn't impact contests. Needs to be more kamikaze. Brown at least brings ball to ground and gets involved.

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