8 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Why?

Because I don't see the other two clubs offering 50% more $ than us per year.

Let's say the total offer is for $600k for ease of calculation.  It would be $300k pa from the others but only $200k from us.

41 minutes ago, adonski said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2020-isaac-smith-to-geelong-cats-free-agent-decision-hawthorn-melbourne-chris-scott-pitch-offer-news/news-story/0357c0a874428305fc989199d5e1645a

paging @Dr evil

2 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

paging @Dr evil

Yes.

If Smith goes to the Cats we can be sure of two things,  first Dr. Evil will cop a pasting on DL and second there will be a flood of posts about how Smith is no good, too old and didn’t want him anyway.

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Yes.

If Smith goes to the Cats we can be sure of two things,  first Dr. Evil will cop a pasting on DL and second there will be a flood of posts about how Smith is no good, too old and didn’t want him anyway.

Pasting is already well and truely underway red :) and a few posts coming in about how Smith is a bad player so good predictions. 

I think it's fair enough for people to question me if this goes the other way though, i just post what i get told, i've posted quite a bit so hopefully posters can judge the whole lot, was always going to be some things that pan out, and others than don't that's just how this time of year works. 

30 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Not so sure...think 2020's short quarters may have been to Geelong's advantage; kinder to 'older legs'.

Guess we'll be in a better situation to gauge that next year.

Geelong's response to having the oldest ever side to play in AFL history is to chase 2 x 32yo's from other clubs and potentially losing young players like Jordan Clark!  I can see them dropping quickly - starting next year.

7 minutes ago, Dr evil said:

Pasting is already well and truely underway red :) and a few posts coming in about how Smith is a bad player so good predictions. 

I think it's fair enough for people to question me if this goes the other way though, i just post what i get told, i've posted quite a bit so hopefully posters can judge the whole lot, was always going to be some things that pan out, and others than don't that's just how this time of year works. 

I would not blame you if he indicated he was happy to join us and then changed his mind after a late Cats pitch. I actually am no t keen in him anyway. He is not the player he was and I would prefer Getting someone younger and also developing Baker. 
Maybe it would allow us to look at a Treloar deal or Phillips, or even poach a Cats player.

Edited October 29, 20204 yr by Redleg

1 minute ago, Crystal Dees said:

Geelong's response to having the oldest ever side to play in AFL history is to chase 2 x 32yo's from other clubs and potentially losing young players like Jordan Clark!  I can see them dropping quickly - starting next year.

How do people rate Clarke i wonder CD?  Has the pace but what's the rest of his game like.  Is he worth considering on the other wing maybe?

Just now, Rusty Nails said:

How do people rate Clarke i wonder CD?  Has the pace but what's the rest of his game like.  Is he worth considering on the other wing maybe?

His next move will be back to WA.

3 minutes ago, Crystal Dees said:

Geelong's response to having the oldest ever side to play in AFL history is to chase 2 x 32yo's from other clubs and potentially losing young players like Jordan Clark!  I can see them dropping quickly - starting next year.

Yes, it's a bit hard to fathom. Guess they must really see themselves as being on the cusp of premiership as opposed to the cusp of a precipice. 

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

I would not blame you if he indicated he was happy to join us and then changed his mind after a late Cats pitch. I actually am no t keen in him anyway. He is not the player he was and I would prefer Getting someone younger and also developing Baker.

Appreciate that Red, i am more keen on his experience/leadership i still see that as a big hole for the club, especially on field. 

Whorethorn Smith is too old 

Look elsewhere 

5 minutes ago, Crystal Dees said:

Geelong's response to having the oldest ever side to play in AFL history is to chase 2 x 32yo's from other clubs and potentially losing young players like Jordan Clark!  I can see them dropping quickly - starting next year.

The big advantage this year they also have 3 first round draft picks.  If they get Cameron and Smith as free agents, Higgins will be 3rd round pick and keep the 3 first round picks, pretty big win.

5 minutes ago, Dr evil said:

Pasting is already well and truely underway red :) and a few posts coming in about how Smith is a bad player so good predictions. 

I think it's fair enough for people to question me if this goes the other way though, i just post what i get told, i've posted quite a bit so hopefully posters can judge the whole lot, was always going to be some things that pan out, and others than don't that's just how this time of year works. 

appreciate you sharing your info.

Understandable that things can change quite quickly in the sporting world, especially without people knowing all the details. Lazio thought they had lined up free agent David Silva a few months ago and just needed a contract to be signed, fast forward a little bit and they saw a press release saying he had signed for Real Sociedad in Spain. 

11 minutes ago, Dr evil said:

Pasting is already well and truely underway red :) and a few posts coming in about how Smith is a bad player so good predictions. 

I think it's fair enough for people to question me if this goes the other way though, i just post what i get told, i've posted quite a bit so hopefully posters can judge the whole lot, was always going to be some things that pan out, and others than don't that's just how this time of year works. 

Thank you for all the inside info Dr. evil, things can change, so guys be nice.

14 minutes ago, drdrake said:

The big advantage this year they also have 3 first round draft picks.  If they get Cameron and Smith as free agents, Higgins will be 3rd round pick and keep the 3 first round picks, pretty big win.

But Cameron will probably cost them 2. It seemed a perfect opportunity to get 3 very good kids and start planning for the next 12 years instead of 12 months. 

37 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Whorethorn Smith is too old 

Look elsewhere 

Would take Smith, Prefer Phillips. 

Strangely enough, a lot of AFL Trade Radio over the past few days has been about things other than trades. For instance, the big news seems to be that Essendon's football boss Dan Richardson has been shown the door after three years in the role.

There is talk of Allir Allir’s mooted move to Port Adelaide and the Treloar story continues to garner discussion.

On Isaac Smith, I wouldn’t be devastated if he decided to go to Geelong or remain a Hawk. He’s 32 years old and you would expect him to have slowed down in the third year of that contract.

7 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Strangely enough, a lot of AFL Trade Radio over the past few days has been about things other than trades.

That was my experience listening last year.

Just a lot of general footy talk combined with 'experts' naming all the possible things that could happen. Its basically the same as reading this site except you have adverts shoved down your ears at every opportunity. 

I thank everybody who listens and shares info.

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thought this was interesting:

"All three deals Smith has been weighing up are similar financially, though as mentioned Melbourne’s is one year longer".

I'd take the 2 year contract if the $ were similar in total to 3 years and avoid putting in an extra years work. 

And if a 4th flag is important then Geelong is a much better prospect. By the time we make a GF he may not even be selected or even be at the club.

All roads lead to Geelong.

You'd think this puts us in last place.

21 minutes ago, Demonland said:

You'd think this puts us in last place.

I read it that we are offering the same money per year but have an extra year in the contract.

Otherwise there is no way you would consider us an option at all.

No one would sign a three year contract at his age when you can guarantee the same money in two thirds the time. Especially not to come to us.

12 minutes ago, BAMF said:

I read it that we are offering the same money per year but have an extra year in the contract.

Otherwise there is no way you would consider us an option at all.

No one would sign a three year contract at his age when you can guarantee the same money in two thirds the time. Especially not to come to us.

I hope you’re right otherwise we might need to go back to haggling school. 

2 hours ago, Dr evil said:

Appreciate that Red, i am more keen on his experience/leadership i still see that as a big hole for the club, especially on field. 

Releg's suggestion of more intense development of Baker - one of the AFL's fastest players, without doubt - is a very strong case for not going with a 32 year old, current 4-quarter scrubber - even more important than his potential leadership contribution onfield as we now have a few 'suitable' types to lead, guide and motivate our younger brigade.

Baker needs cleaner hands, more elusiveness and a larger 'hit the bastards where it hurts' mongrel attitude towards tackling opponents. Baker has, in other words, some great potentials and it is up to our FD to achieve this with focus.

Aaron Davey comes to my mind; very light, fast, mobile, environmentally highly spacious, tackled like a true pro - Baker could be very similar. That is the kind of red/blue competitor we need more than ever.

Why on earth would the cats trade in a 32 year old? They had the oldest team in vfl/afl history this year.

And it showed in rhe second half if the gf.

Sure ablett retires but c'mon

Next season we go back to normal lengths quarters. The dad's army will run out of steam well before the finals.

1 minute ago, binman said:

Next season we go back to normal lengths quarters. The dad's army will run out of steam well before the finals.

Dangerfield is pushing for shorter quarters to be the norm. Knows normal length disadvantages his club. Watch it happen.

So the real thing starts tomorrow with the start of the free agency period and the question is what will be the first done deal?

Past years ~

2017: Jackson Trengove joins Western Bulldogs (Friday)

2018: Reece Conca joins Fremantle (Friday)

2019: Gold Coast’s offer for RFA Brandon Ellis (Friday)

The first trades in those years were ~

2017: Jake Lever’s move from Adelaide to Melbourne (Thursday)

2018: Lincoln McCarthy’s move from Geelong to Brisbane (Monday)

2019: Tim Kelly’s move from Geelong to West Coast (Wednesday)