Personal view : I think Buckley was right in asking just what outcome is HL looking for? If he could state that then everyone involved could progress towards that outcome and then move on, hopefully all happy. 

5 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Personal view : I think Buckley was right in asking just what outcome is HL looking for? If he could state that then everyone involved could progress towards that outcome and then move on, hopefully all happy. 

bit hard when there are obviously 2 different narratives

one side will have to admit to telling porkies

i'm just ordering in more popcorn

Man... sharing selected snippets of audio you have secretly recorded from a conversation the other party thinks is private. It sounds like bits have been cut out too so it's hard to know exactly how the conversation really went.

Dog act.

It's hardly a smoking gun either.

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It would seem that Buckley doesn't mind the conversation being revealed.

Whichever way you might lean on this issue (and I'm keeping an open mind), I hope we can all agree that it is a good thing if it causes turmoil and trouble at Collingwood.

 

The only thing we can state with any certainty is that something is very badly amiss somewhere. 

I hate the filth. Having said that, I'd prefer to see them in the 8 rather than Richmond.

deafening silence from the afl.com site journos

10 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

deafening silence from the afl.com site journos

And you expected more DC?

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

And you expected more DC?

yeah, i do

they could at the very least report what's happened without giving any opinions

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

deafening silence from the afl.com site journos

Think the womans umpire report was even more deafening . Surprised it was leaked when Gil was away ( sarcasm) 

there's not going to be any winners out of what's going on, that's for sure

Just Harry O being himself. I used to hope he’d get help, but he obviously hasn’t. The only thing I glean from this is that Harry O still isn’t well. Get help Harry

23 hours ago, David-Demon said:

My view. Watch this space.. !! 

No problems at all! It’s just that you’re wrong. 
 

No weight at all is placed on how long it takes to bring a claim in a Court, other than if you miss the limitation period 

9 hours ago, daisycutter said:

yeah, i do

they could at the very least report what's happened without giving any opinions

I am reminded of the Randolph Hearse saying. News is something that someone else doesn't want you to know. The rest is unpaid advertising. 

Listening to the audio snippets - it sounds to me like Bucks is trying to diffuse the situation and is no way in the wrong.

Harry certainly had the right to be upset with Eddie over the King Kong gaffe and everything else.

So it seems like Bucks was attempting to diffuse the situation and protect the club a bit - probably the right thing to do as opposed to throwing the baby out with the bathwater which is what Harry seems to think should have happened

A messy situation they have themselves in.

11 minutes ago, old dee said:

I am reminded of the Randolph Hearse saying. News is something that someone else doesn't want you to know. The rest is unpaid advertising. 

That's very funny OD he might have said it from his hearse but his name was Hearst 

Just after he made that statement, he had a coffin' fit.

3 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Just after he made that statement, he had a coffin' fit.

and buried the statement

 

38 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

No problems at all! It’s just that you’re wrong. 
 

No weight at all is placed on how long it takes to bring a claim in a Court, other than if you miss the limitation period 

In this instance all facts were asked to be tabled as late as 2021 and on numerous occasions in prior years.. so that mediation could commence both at AFL with Legal Counsel and also at C'wood - which they botched anyway . Buckley even acknowledges now that exact point to Harry yesterday. It is a legal practice in all cases that all facts are brought to the table before a case moves forward in litigation. I feel that Harry may have some mental or personal issues in the handling of this matter, he seems also  to be lacking the backup support for his well being in this matter which is sad. Bringing up supposed "facts" after the event is not accepted in a Court of Law where that could be construed to be "double jeopardy" in a Trial.

The "Do better report" only inflamed the fire in his belly and I agree he had the right to defend himself again from any comments made "from the other side - being Collingwood" but he needs to come to peace with a process, rightly or wrongly and move forward knowing that in his heart he has settled a grievance. There can be no winners only heartache.

Mediation would seem to be now the only solution and sensible path ahead. If this was in fact a failed marriage, that is how it would proceed and a Judge would order it so.

 

 

2 minutes ago, David-Demon said:

Mediation would seem to be now the only solution and sensible path ahead.

Article from Greg Baum in The Age this morning on this very issue.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-and-lumumba-a-fairytale-marriage-that-soured-20220510-p5ak7d.html

1 hour ago, Cyclops said:

That's very funny OD he might have said it from his hearse but his name was Hearst 

I knew some one would pick me up. Yes forgot the t

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50 minutes ago, David-Demon said:

In this instance all facts were asked to be tabled as late as 2021 and on numerous occasions in prior years.. so that mediation could commence both at AFL with Legal Counsel and also at C'wood - which they botched anyway . Buckley even acknowledges now that exact point to Harry yesterday. It is a legal practice in all cases that all facts are brought to the table before a case moves forward in litigation. I feel that Harry may have some mental or personal issues in the handling of this matter, he seems also  to be lacking the backup support for his well being in this matter which is sad. Bringing up supposed "facts" after the event is not accepted in a Court of Law where that could be construed to be "double jeopardy" in a Trial.

The "Do better report" only inflamed the fire in his belly and I agree he had the right to defend himself again from any comments made "from the other side - being Collingwood" but he needs to come to peace with a process, rightly or wrongly and move forward knowing that in his heart he has settled a grievance. There can be no winners only heartache.

Mediation would seem to be now the only solution and sensible path ahead. If this was in fact a failed marriage, that is how it would proceed and a Judge would order it so.

 

 

It appears to me that Harry wants revenge, mediation is not in his mind. He wants to bring down the CFC. Nothing else will satisfy him. The way it looks to me is he will take this to the grave with him. I feel sad for him that he cannot move on. 

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

It appears to me that Harry wants revenge, mediation is not in his mind. He wants to bring down the CFC. Nothing else will satisfy him. The way it looks to me is he will take this to the grave with him. I feel sad for him that he cannot move on. 

On who/what?

He helped bring down Eddie.  Buckley is no longer there.  CFC discredited and still in the doldrums.  Not sure there is much more he can do that will damage them further.  Sue them?  Then do it and be done with it.

Buckley would be well served to ignore the provocations and not respond.  No winners on social media t-t for tat posts.

As an aside, was allowing De Goey back into the team in accordance with the “Do Better” report?