In case you didn't see my post on the other TMac thread. About five weeks ago, I made a post saying the Pies might be into Tom. I had heard this. The fact that there is still interest from them, suggests that the interest may be legit. I'm pretty sure they also mentioned him playing down back.

Edited October 13, 20204 yr by Dees247

41 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Question. I'm confused by this notion that clubs would be scared off by his salary. A club brings him in and they would negotiate a new contract, right? Maybe we pay a portion to satisfy all parties as best as possible - but failing that he stays at Melbourne as an outsider and doesn't get a game. I know this isn't ideal for us - but if he's grumpy and wants out he can take a pay-cut. Like employment decisions normal people have to make. 

Plus, it can’t be a very pleasant work environment for him. He’s under-performing and on a big contract. The other players are bound to be resentful towards him. Professional pride has to play a part as well. He seems like an honourable sort and I can’t imagine he’s happy collecting a big pay check and not pulling his weight.

I hope he’s realistic with his wage demands.  For everybody’s sake he needs to leave the MFC.

Not sure some on here understand the haircut we will take if T Mac leaves.

IMO he should go but we will probably end up paying around $200k per year of his salary for the next two years. Anything under $200k would be a win for us.

Note it is a Sam McLure article  and of late I hav this feeling his scoops are straight form managers looking to stimulate interest. I hope he hasn't become a mouthy piece for a manager looking for a better deal but could explain how a scoop could go off the boil and suddenly come to life again. Just look at Rama ringing every club trying to find a home and a long term contract for Ben Brown.

This is a horrible time of year all around with deceit the second language of the AFL.

1 hour ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

It seems such a sharp U-turn from just a week ago when he was slimming down to win his spot back, that I tend to agree.

Brown, or another forward (are there any on the table?) must on their way to us.

Reckon we were playing games there.

No pruess and no tmac, we better have another tall ready to go in our back pockets. Wouldn't be against flipping tmac and may forward and back respectively whee games need it to get the best out of the talent we have

Edited October 13, 20204 yr by Demons1858

20 minutes ago, defuture15 said:

Perhaps Thomas coming to us and we end up paying the difference? They get something, we get something?

Yeah, we do so well out of these deals with Collingwood.  Remember Kennedy and Lumumber? 

That said - I'd take Mihocek.

I really hope we don’t lose TMac. 

I have only really heard Barrett say we’re after Brown. Has anyone else linked us to him? 
Would make sense that we move  Tmac on if we get Brown. 

TMac’s inevitable departure smacks of the same supporters’ sentiments as those expressed with Jack Watts’ removal.

 

1 hour ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

It seems such a sharp U-turn from just a week ago when he was slimming down to win his spot back, that I tend to agree.

Ironically one of the many things T Mac cannot do

*apologies for the cheesy pun

22 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I really hope we don’t lose TMac. 

I really hope they don’t ask him to touch his toes during the medical

I know this is off topic but the Fox Footy article has a mention of something that makes me roll my eyes every time. They claim this great victory that Howe was turned from forward into defender. When he left us he was playing in the exact role he's doing at the Pies but when he left they said, "you are a forward and we will play you there". Sure enough he goes to the forward line and is useless, they switch him to defence and say, "jeez Bucks is a genius moving Howe to defence!" Anyway, mini rant over.

With Tom there was be a hint of sadness about him leaving, he was pivotal to our 2018 Finals run and provided one of my favourite moments in recent Dees history with his winning goal agains the Eagles in 2017. I confess I was actually a little happy when I heard a few weeks ago that the word was he was staying and setting himself to get leaner and closer to his 2018 body shape (apparently he bulked up to match the gorilla style defender and improve his contested marking).

But it does also seem like there's a fracture in the relationship between club and player, he's been taken over by Wied and LJ, and in the games he's played he has shown little to give us confidence of a return to form. It could well be that a change of club could be a good thing for him, and moving him on will free up our salary cap.

It's sad, but I hope whatever happens (stays or goes) the Dees fans treat him with the respect he's earned over his years with us. Certainly the garbage that has been said about Oscar would understandably make him want to get out of here.

Edited October 13, 20204 yr by Pates

31 minutes ago, joeboy said:

TMac’s inevitable departure smacks of the same supporters’ sentiments as those expressed with Jack Watts’ removal.

 

Which were proven right

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Love it....

“Maybe he’s destined to return to the backline. I’m not sure where Collingwood see him fitting in but they recruited Jeremy Howe as a forward and turned him into one of the great defenders of the last five or six years.”

Almost fell off my chair with laughter reading this. 

57 minutes ago, Crystal Dees said:

Yeah, we do so well out of these deals with Collingwood.  Remember Kennedy and Lumumber? 

That said - I'd take Mihocek.

Forgot about Mihocek! That would make sense if we don't get Brown. Also we already have a mascot named after him!

43 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Ironically one of the many things T Mac cannot do

*apologies for the cheesy pun

Well played.

1 hour ago, Crystal Dees said:

Yeah, we do so well out of these deals with Collingwood.  Remember Kennedy and Lumumber? 

That said - I'd take Mihocek.

Didn't Peter Moore win a Brownlow with us? Henry Coles went around alright. 

1 hour ago, joeboy said:

TMac’s inevitable departure smacks of the same supporters’ sentiments as those expressed with Jack Watts’ removal.

 

Both are perennial underperformers who are over rated by the support base?

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Which were proven right

Not in my opinion.

Remember when Tomald and Viney had a dust-up one pre-season? Awesome. 

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Didn't Peter Moore win a Brownlow with us? Henry Coles went around alright. 

*cough* Chris Dawes

(Just being a smartie; I actually didn't mind his contribution.

...and there goes my cred.)

On a serious note, Brown vs TMac?How much different was Brown's 2020 form from Tom's? Can all Brown's fall be blamed on others? Can all Tom's fall be blamed on him?

8 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

*cough* Chris Dawes

(Just being a smartie; I actually didn't mind his contribution.

...and there goes my cred.)

You make a good point though Bro . . . Dawes was a big time bust (as was virtually everything in this era at the Deez) as was Johnny Dellamata and Phil Carmen. We somewhat got them back though . . . happy to have off-loaded Dunn to them. 

11 hours ago, Sillitoes said:

It may just be hear say but I have heard we may be signing Shaun Mckernan on a two year deal. 
Replaces Preuss and also another forward option. 
No official mail on this but thought it would be good to discuss. 

Welcome to Demonland Shaun, a great first post it must be said! ?

 

Though in all seriousness I also mentioned in another post that Shaun may be worth looking at as a DFA purely as ruck cover. Though I think 2 years would be a bit rich, surely 1 would do.