TMac on the Trade Table?

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Is Tmac really on $700-800k?

Wow 

[Kent 2,909]

15 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

We've probably done the form, physical limitations and injury discussions here a fair bit, but wonder if TMac will see the writing on the wall and look for more opportunity elsewhere?

Signed until the end of 2022; but hard to know the remuneration situation given he re-signed only 6 games into his stellar 2018 season.

Turns 28 soon so might not want to be having to compete with young players for a spot, and plenty of teams would be willing to take a punt on him IMO.

Main obstacle could be him passing a physical pending how serious a toll his injuries have taken.

Reckon it's a bit of a 'watch this space' with TMac.

He is worth F'all in his current condition and lack of confidence

Hope he comes good but it appears highly unlikely

[NeveroddoreveN 1,034]

4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Is Tmac really on $700-800k?

Wow 

If Viney is worth 650k, why not!!

[sue 9,102]

11 hours ago, rufus said:

They sound like excuses, which ironically also fit in pefectly with the culture of the club.

....

I reckon if the players at training were hit by an asteroid, you'd be screaming 'excuses, excuses'.   Are you aware that excuses and reasons are not synonyms.

Edited September 15, 2020 by sue

[dl4e 5,851]

He has been off the boil now for 2 seasons. At nearly 28 a bit young to say he is past it but injury may have wrecked his career.

[Redbeard 497]

He looks like he's bulked up in the glutes and is bottom heavy, just doesn't seem to be moving fluently anymore

[Lord Nev 13,512]

35 minutes ago, Kent said:

He is worth F'all in his current condition and lack of confidence

Hope he comes good but it appears highly unlikely

Yep, trade value won't be high, but I think IF he goes it's because he wants to leave not because we want to ship him off.

[drdrake 3,163]

There ha to be something wrong with his body,can't accelerate, can't turn and can't jump.  His biggest asset was his running capacity, getting up and back, thats why he worked well with Hogan, both had really good running capacity so one worked up and created space behind.  

[drysdale demon 4,832]

2 hours ago, Dr.D said:

The majority of people that don't post, share my views. They are simply over the mfc and the endless promises of being a ruthless football club. 

When did you ask all those people?

[Siren 156]

Melbourne’s current stance is that Tom will not play another game for the MFC and will be traded. 
Obvious with only one game to go, but a lot will need to change for Tom to be on the list next year 

[Redlagged 806]

2 hours ago, Dr.D said:

I wouldn't say Steven May is in career best form. We coughed up a very high draft pick for a known gun of the competition.

Weideman hasn't improved. In fact he hasn't played 1 game that has come close to matching his 24, 3 goal game against Geelong in the 2018 finals.

Petracca has improved this year but the question has got to be asked why it took Goodwin 6 years to get him fit enough to play midfield. 

Hibberd has been a previous All-australian. He has been good this year without being great. 

Not even sure why you are mentioning the 3 draft picks. They are chosen by Jason Taylor and the jury is well and truly out on Pickett whose lack of composure has been stark. The proof will lie in 5 years time as to whether they become good afl players.

So out of the 44 players on the list maybe 2 or 3 players have improved under Goodwin. The rest have stayed the same or got worse. He needs to go. And we need less suppporters that are content with mediocrity or scraping into the finals. 

Have people forgotten that we were aiming for top 4? I accept nothing less.

The majority of people that don't post, share my views. They are simply over the mfc and the endless promises of being a ruthless football club. 

I don't share your views. I think you're an inveterate whinger with little knowledge of either football and the way football teams operate. The ludicrous criticism of Pickett is an example. His 'stark' lack of composure? He looked pretty composed the other day, when he moved the ball from one end of the ground to the other.  Took Goodwin 6 years to get Petracca fit enough?  Just stupid and wrong on several counts. Perhaps the silliest comment you've ever made - but there are plenty of contenders.

[Dr.D 1,771]

1 minute ago, Redlagged said:

I don't share your views. I think you're an inveterate whinger with little knowledge of either football and the way football teams operate. The ludicrous criticism of Pickett is an example. His 'stark' lack of composure? He looked pretty composed the other day, when he moved the ball from one end of the ground to the other.  Took Goodwin 6 years to get Petracca fit enough?  Just stupid and wrong on several counts. Perhaps the silliest comment you've ever made - but there are plenty of contenders.

the fact that you don't acknowledge Picketts flaws is fine. In a full season, you're mentioning one piece of play? which is the best thing he has done all year. 

how is it wrong regarding petracca? This is his first year playing fulltime mid. Why couldn't he be playing full time mid at least 1 or 2 seasons ago?  I'm yet to hear a reason. It doesn't take 5 years to build an aerobic base good enough to play midfield.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

8 minutes ago, Siren said:

Melbourne’s current stance is that Tom will not play another game for the MFC and will be traded. 
Obvious with only one game to go, but a lot will need to change for Tom to be on the list next year 

Is this your opinion or fact? 

[Kent 2,909]

58 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Yep, trade value won't be high, but I think IF he goes it's because he wants to leave not because we want to ship him off.

He has little  value to us in my opinion and is looking more and more like a liability when he plays

as I said our best outcome is that he comes good (Doubtfull) and plays a meaningfull role for the remainder of his contract

Edited September 16, 2020 by Kent

[Lord Nev 13,512]

15 minutes ago, Siren said:

Melbourne’s current stance is that Tom will not play another game for the MFC and will be traded. 
Obvious with only one game to go, but a lot will need to change for Tom to be on the list next year 

Heard similar-ish, hence the thread. Was told he has requested a trade.

Didn't want to start a thread with that as there's a clique here that like to whinge when people post that kind of thing.

[Siren 156]

18 minutes ago, CYB said:

Is this your opinion or fact? 

Fact

[Smokey 4,389]

16 hours ago, Dr.D said:

just joined the list of many players that have gone backwards under Goodwin.

(Harmes, brayshaw, hunt, Melksham, Fritsch, jetta)

Laughable comment, Harmes had his best year in 2018 and Brayshaw came third in the Brownlow. 

You literally have no idea. 

[Dr.D 1,771]

10 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Laughable comment, Harmes had his best year in 2018 and Brayshaw came third in the Brownlow. 

You literally have no idea. 

and since then? what do you put the decline down to?

[Redleg 40,907]

30 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Heard similar-ish, hence the thread. Was told he has requested a trade.

Didn't want to start a thread with that as there's a clique here that like to whinge when people post that kind of thing.

Not me. I love to hear rumours.

[Smokey 4,389]

2 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

and since then? what do you put the decline down to?

Like you, I could only speculate. Which is why I do not come on here and try to ram my speculation down others throats as if it were fact.. 

Tom Mitchell is down on form this year; do you blame Clarkson for that? 

[jumbo returns 6,741]

I blame Roos

Left 3 years too soon

We'd have a flag by now

[Pulp Fritschon 739]

Send Tmac to North for Polec. Both contracted on good coin and on the outer. 

[Deemania since 56 6,635]

17 hours ago, Dr.D said:

just joined the list of many players that have gone backwards under Goodwin.

(Harmes, brayshaw, hunt, Melksham, Fritsch, jetta)

Should he depart, there is another bonus. OMac won't get game and will have to leave, too.

[Deemania since 56 6,635]

5 minutes ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

Send Tmac to North for Polec. Both contracted on good coin and on the outer. 

It is very likely that the acquisition of Polec, a very good player on his day, will suit him immensely - and suit the style of game that our coaching wizards are trying to instil in our team. He gets the ball, has run and carry, and kicks effectively with a pre-disposed, upfield eye. 

[jumbo returns 6,741]

17 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

It is very likely that the acquisition of Polec, a very good player on his day, will suit him immensely - and suit the style of game that our coaching wizards are trying to instil in our team. He gets the ball, has run and carry, and kicks effectively with a pre-disposed, upfield eye. 

So why was he dropped this year by Norf?