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30 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

Keep trading forward next year's first until we look like sinking back down the ladder in the 2030s rebuild

Why not stay in contention forever like the Cats? 

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    Just now, Fat Tony said:

    Why not stay in contention forever like the Cats? 

    As long as, unlike them, we win them!

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    22 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

    Keep trading forward next year's first until we look like sinking back down the ladder in the 2030s rebuild

    Except the AFL rules state you have to take a first round pick within a certain window.  Not sure of the exact numbers.

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    15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Except the AFL rules state you have to take a first round pick within a certain window.  Not sure of the exact numbers.

    Every four years need to use at least one first rounder at the draft.

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    1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Except the AFL rules state you have to take a first round pick within a certain window.  Not sure of the exact numbers.

    We used two last year so we're in credit.

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    4 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

    Every four years need to use at least one first rounder at the draft.

    Close. Every four years you need to use at least 2.

    We used 2 last year so therefore don't need to use on until 2024.

    https://www.afl.com.au/news/202143/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

    -       Clubs can trade one year in the future only.

    -       Clubs must make at least two first-round selections in each four-year period. If they don't, they will face restrictions from trading any further first-round draft picks.

    -       If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selection from that same draft. But if a club keeps its future first-round selection, it can trade any of its future selections from other rounds.

     

     

     

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    I honestly think that we need to start specifically targeting guys that are straight kicks for goal. I'm not sure if we can carry Fritsch, Weideman, Pickett, Jackson and Gawn (when forward). All are pretty bad set shot kicks for goal. Ironically its Ben Browns best asset but he isn't in the 22 at the moment. I feel that we need someone who consolidates opportunities better. Like a Luke Breust type would be perfect in my opinion and I reckon the hawks would be open to trading him given the demographics of their list.

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    On 6/26/2021 at 2:33 PM, Ethan Trembley said:

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    I normally love your work Ethan, but really struggling for context with this one?

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    4 hours ago, Left Foot Snap said:

    I normally love your work Ethan, but really struggling for context with this one?

    Triple J Presenter from back in the day, Maynard. 

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    1 hour ago, Ethan Trembley said:

    Triple J Presenter from back in the day, Maynard. 

    Ah, thanks.

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    We know the Doggies are spoilt for choice in the midfield department and it seems they will also face similar list challenges in their forward line. With Bruce, Naughton and English already settled and JUH knocking on the door, they have a conundrum in what to do with their tall forward stocks. 

    Is a forward line of English, Naughton, Bruce and JUH with a rotating Bont too tall? I think someone, somewhere will be squeezed out. Bruce/English are probably a lock for FF with English rotating in the ruck and Naughton is an absolute lock as your spearhead CHF. 

    I wonder if JUH is gettable. We should definitely pick up the phone to his management and make a play. 

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    22 minutes ago, CYB said:

    We know the Doggies are spoilt for choice in the midfield department and it seems they will also face similar list challenges in their forward line. With Bruce, Naughton and English already settled and JUH knocking on the door, they have a conundrum in what to do with their tall forward stocks. 

    Is a forward line of English, Naughton, Bruce and JUH with a rotating Bont too tall? I think someone, somewhere will be squeezed out. Bruce/English are probably a lock for FF with English rotating in the ruck and Naughton is an absolute lock as your spearhead CHF. 

    I wonder if JUH is gettable. We should definitely pick up the phone to his management and make a play. 

    Age footy podcast contemplated this in latest one.....

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    30 minutes ago, CYB said:

    We know the Doggies are spoilt for choice in the midfield department and it seems they will also face similar list challenges in their forward line. With Bruce, Naughton and English already settled and JUH knocking on the door, they have a conundrum in what to do with their tall forward stocks. 

    Is a forward line of English, Naughton, Bruce and JUH with a rotating Bont too tall? I think someone, somewhere will be squeezed out. Bruce/English are probably a lock for FF with English rotating in the ruck and Naughton is an absolute lock as your spearhead CHF. 

    I wonder if JUH is gettable. We should definitely pick up the phone to his management and make a play. 

    They also have Luke Darcy's kid as a F/S coming through

     

    What would they ask for JUH? Probably want an early 1st rounder plus a key back like Petty/Tomlinson or 2 first rounders minimum.

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    13 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    They also have Luke Darcy's kid as a F/S coming through

     

    What would they ask for JUH? Probably want an early 1st rounder plus a key back like Petty/Tomlinson or 2 first rounders minimum.

    whatever it is, they'll come out laughing considering JUH was gifted to them. 

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    10 hours ago, Dr.D said:

    I honestly think that we need to start specifically targeting guys that are straight kicks for goal. I'm not sure if we can carry Fritsch, Weideman, Pickett, Jackson and Gawn (when forward). All are pretty bad set shot kicks for goal. Ironically its Ben Browns best asset but he isn't in the 22 at the moment. I feel that we need someone who consolidates opportunities better. Like a Luke Breust type would be perfect in my opinion and I reckon the hawks would be open to trading him given the demographics of their list.

    I like Breust as a target and also think we should be going for players who are deadly in front of goal. But you are being a bit harsh on your list.

    Fritsch has kicked 28.13 this year. He was ordinary last year but he has been excellent this year.

    Weideman kicked 19.8 last year and he has had the yips this year. He has kicked 49.29 for his career.

    Pickett and Jackson are second year players and don't appear to have fundamental techincal flaws. We should be confident that they will be at least average in front of goal.

    Gawn will always be 50/50.

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    juh's interest in afl is, anecdotally, about the edges of the afl lifestyle rather than an afl life in an of itself

    as beveridge has alluded to, he needs to get serious about being an afl player before he'll be an afl player

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    20 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

    I like Breust as a target and also think we should be going for players who are deadly in front of goal. But you are being a bit harsh on your list.

    Fritsch has kicked 28.13 this year. He was ordinary last year but he has been excellent this year.

    Weideman kicked 19.8 last year and he has had the yips this year. He has kicked 49.29 for his career.

    Pickett and Jackson are second year players and don't appear to have fundamental techincal flaws. We should be confident that they will be at least average in front of goal.

    Gawn will always be 50/50.

    I think those numbers flatter Fritsch a little, he has definitely had a few not register a score or go out of bounds on the full

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    I am sure our cap is full to the brink. In saying that, I think forwards and outside midfielders are the most needed from an MFC list perspective. Here is a list of players I would think about:

    Charlie Curnow would be a player who could be anything and could be convinced in the need for a fresh start. It would be a risky move but could be a risk worth taking.

    The Saints seem to be keen on Ben King and so Tim Membrey could be potentially on the move.

    Breust is still a clever player who would add to our side.

    Gunston would be worth considering.

    Sidebottom is a player who the Pies might be willing to let go for the right pick.

    De Goey is another player the Pies may look to let go for cap reasons.

    Seedsman is a very good player.

    Ed Richards is finally getting an AFL game but would suit our side.

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    2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    They also have Luke Darcy's kid as a F/S coming through

     

    What would they ask for JUH? Probably want an early 1st rounder plus a key back like Petty/Tomlinson or 2 first rounders minimum.

    Yep exactly - i just dont know how they'd be able to keep all of those players on their list. We will definitely be going [censored]-for-tat with this mob for the next few years. 

    JUH is unproven so i doubt it would command anything more than a top 10 pick (in terms of trade value). I think they'd be after a mature age player (key back) plus a 2nd rounder. I cant see how Petty factors into that mix unless he really has some top ranking performances between now and end of year. 

    I really liked the mix of May, Tomo and Lever so would be unwilling to let go of Tomo for an unproven forward. 

    I reckon the Doggies are in the drivers seat here and could take JUH to any club for a key backman... Imagine what a Darcy Moore would do for that team!

     

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    Not sure whether we will look to trade any players in this year. We will lose some older players not getting a game trough retirement and delisting of some others that have been around for a while.

    Injuries for the remaining part of the year may affect trade in decisions.

    We may trade in to get a ready made depth players depending on assessed progress of our recent draft picks, Bowey, Laurie, DeClasse, Turner etc.

    Interesting the Twomey on the AFL website has ranked our NGA player Andrew Mac at 9 in his rankings. Typical if he goes top 20 we cannot match this year. There are a number of clubs looking for mobile rucks. Talk about crappy timing. 

     

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    Dogs could win the flag and have effectively the top pick in the draft for the last two years, with Darcy now being touted as possible number 1 pick.

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    12 hours ago, Redleg said:

    Dogs could win the flag and have effectively the top pick in the draft for the last two years, with Darcy now being touted as possible number 1 pick.

    yeah 100% the most unfair system going around. 
     

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    Given we will likely lose a bit of experience this year, I'd like to see the club seek out a few older players happy to take a pay cut for a crack at a flag.

    Likely outs: Jones, Jetta, Baker, vandenBerg, Nietschke, Bradtke & Smith.

    Potential options: Seedsman, Sidebottom, Breust, Billings, Gunston plus I'm sure there are more.

    Also look to add Maynard and a few draftees and we are set for another crack in 2022.

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