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Love hunty but he really needs to learn to stick a tackle. Every time he attempts one he gets shrugged off

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    3 minutes ago, Elegt said:

    Love hunty but he really needs to learn to stick a tackle. Every time he attempts one he gets shrugged off

    Can agree with that but gee he has some weapons.

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    3 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

    Can agree with that but gee he has some weapons.

    The frustrating thing is that he was a fierce tackler in 2017, he would frequently run opponents down and win htb. Now he can't even stick one

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    9 hours ago, McQueen said:

    His role is less ‘physical’ than what it was in 2017. Back then it was the bash and crash attack no matter who you were. I’m seeing less full blown defensive efforts where he puts his body on the line but more of the run, speed, link up and overlap play we know he’s built for,

    And as far as the experts online goes, we all have an opinion and sometimes it doesn’t turn out right. 

    I still think he is best suited where he can get the ball and run, like wing and hbf. He has adapted as a forward because that is where he is being played. He is an accurate and long kick, can take a mark and has pace, but to me he is not a natural forward, like say a Breust or a Papley. I think his best footy is straight line running and line breaking,  like he did earlier in his career.  
    The forward line can be a graveyard, where possessions are few and limited opportunities  have to be taken to be effective there. 
    I think he has been unfairly marked by many on here, as a result of being played out of his best position . 

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    9 hours ago, Elegt said:

    Love hunty but he really needs to learn to stick a tackle. Every time he attempts one he gets shrugged off

    Melksham and several other Demons say hello. 
    Out tackling has been poor the last 2 years, since late 2018 when it was ferocious. 
    IMO we should get a rugby guy in who can teach them to take the body down and not be shrugged off, or simply avoided.

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    On 9/16/2020 at 2:44 PM, Spud said:

    Nah, This is Cale Morton's best highlight reel and most fitting.

    Hunt has some attributes to be good player, but as others have mentioned, lacks the natural footy nous to be a great player. Needs a role, whether it be us or another club and he can be of value IMO. I'd like to think he could become a bit of a Tom Lynch from Adelaide type? He is good overhead and has good pace, just needs to learn running patterns on where to get to to and a tank and he could be very valuable? He probably lacks that nous to be as effective as Lynch when he was at his best, but he could still be an important contributor.

     

     

    Another example of our lack of Developing  a player.

    Hunt Fritta Kossie ANB Weid All have ability but need more education and development in forward Craft.

    Yes some forward play is instinctive and this is where natural players such as Trac and Fritta at times Make it look so easy!

    who is our Forward  coach ??? Isnt it Chaplain  a defender Need a Roughead type.

    Snd goalkicking coach Stafford a ruckman!!!

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    34 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    I still think he is best suited where he can get the ball and run, like wing and hbf. He has adapted as a forward because that is where he is being played. He is an accurate and long kick, can take a mark and has pace, but to me he is not a natural forward, like say a Breust or a Papley. I think his best footy is straight line running and line breaking,  like he did earlier in his career.  
    The forward line can be a graveyard, where possessions are few and limited opportunities  have to be taken to be effective there. 
    I think he has been unfairly marked by many on here, as a result of being played out of his best position . 

    Redleg I normally agree with your posts

    But...

    If a bloke kicks 4 goals from 6 possessions it's a bit rough to say he's not a natural forward.

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    1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

    Redleg I normally agree with your posts

    But...

    If a bloke kicks 4 goals from 6 possessions it's a bit rough to say he's not a natural forward.

    Players can kick goals and might not be natural forwards. Lockhart kicked goals but everyone says he is a defender. I actually believe he is a better forward. Hooker and Tom Mac played most of their footy in defence, but kicked goals when moved forward. Are they natural forwards or adaptable. 
    I think natural forwards are the guys like Breust, Papley, A.MacTipungwuti, Miers, Betts, De Goey, Gray, Ryan, Stephenson,  Walters and past players like Cyril, Flash and the Wiz etc, who can make goals out of nothing and take their opportunities. 
    Pickett will be our next one, once he starts converting his chances.
    Anyway as others have said, opinions are just that.

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    Dare we say it with greater "connectivity" could be anything ... clearly benefited  by "narrowing the focus" and  playing his "role for the team." Swooper stood up and "controlled what he could control,”... Well, that is the "takeaway" from  last rounds "learnings". Everything else is just "fugazi".

    Edited by Tarax Club

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    Weed took 5 year to get consistency in his game. Hunty may  well be the same.  Maybe the penny has finally dropped. Next year may be his year.

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    He is better than Spargo, ANB and Bedford and I leave Pickett on potential ahead of him.  So second best small forward on our list

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    29 minutes ago, manny100 said:

    Weed took 5 year to get consistency in his game. Hunty may  well be the same.  Maybe the penny has finally dropped. Next year may be his year.

    might be too little too late from a list management perspective 

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    On 9/14/2020 at 4:00 PM, Pates said:

    Jeez looking at those highlights, 2016 in particular, makes you wonder how we haven’t been able to make a player out of him. 

    What was interesting looking at the 2016 highlights was that he sat on the outside a lot at times for others to extract the ball out and then when he received he would just take off. 

    I’m definitely keen to give him another year, and I think it’s as much on the coaching staff as it is for Hunt to make something of him. 

    Other than being played out of position for too long by Goodwin, and as a 'fill-gap' player at that with useless 'mates of Goodwin' occupying slots without meaningful returns for the regular selections, it is my firm belief that the alleged 'game plan - brand -  lessons learned - contested horse droppings' of the coach have worked badly to ruin his game, opportunities and match readiness, as well as those of so many of his teammates. 

    Goodwin's preference, longer-term, for Hunt has been to keep him at a distance from the team to act as 'available depth' . Hunt produces excellent space-oriented plays, runs like the wind, carries the ball very quickly and bounces without fault, kicks like Aaron Davey could over distance and in shorter passes, with tremendous accuracy across the averages. Can't get a game....

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    5 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    Other than being played out of position for too long by Goodwin, and as a 'fill-gap' player at that with useless 'mates of Goodwin' occupying slots without meaningful returns for the regular selections, it is my firm belief that the alleged 'game plan - brand -  lessons learned - contested horse droppings' of the coach have worked badly to ruin his game, opportunities and match readiness, as well as those of so many of his teammates. 

    Goodwin's preference, longer-term, for Hunt has been to keep him at a distance from the team to act as 'available depth' . Hunt produces excellent space-oriented plays, runs like the wind, carries the ball very quickly and bounces without fault, kicks like Aaron Davey could over distance and in shorter passes, with tremendous accuracy across the averages. Can't get a game....

    Yes Deemania

    In a nutshell What the hell is goodwin doing?

    Other coaches would kill for a player with Hunts natural attributes

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    15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Does he get another contract off the back of today's game??

    Yep definately, same goes for Brown!

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    15 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

    You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. 

    A Natural Forward with speed to burn,  can take a grab and a great leg to boot.

    Hunt will never be more than a bit player

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    6 hours ago, Redleg said:

    I still think he is best suited where he can get the ball and run, like wing and hbf. He has adapted as a forward because that is where he is being played. He is an accurate and long kick, can take a mark and has pace, but to me he is not a natural forward, like say a Breust or a Papley. I think his best footy is straight line running and line breaking,  like he did earlier in his career.  
    The forward line can be a graveyard, where possessions are few and limited opportunities  have to be taken to be effective there. 
    I think he has been unfairly marked by many on here, as a result of being played out of his best position . 

    I think he is a natural forward kick 21 goals last year, has played his best games as a forward this year, with his pace he is good on the lead, and finds space because of his pace, could have kicked 5, if he did not pass off to Langdon just before 3 QTR time, 50 out straight in front, that's his sweet spot. Turns it over by foot too much, but he is a dead idick.

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    17 hours ago, Elegt said:

    The frustrating thing is that he was a fierce tackler in 2017, he would frequently run opponents down and win htb. Now he can't even stick one

    He stuck one on Petracca

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    Hunt has not been the same since he badly knocked himself out running flat out into that Crows ruckman hip a few years back!

    Still has speed to burn, can take a mark and can kick goals, just needs to have some impact on his quiet days!

    That is the major challenge for Many small / mid forwards at the Demons, their good can be very good, but in the not so good games, they are not sighted. Hannan, ANB, Hunt, Spargo to name a few!

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    3 hours ago, deegirl said:

    Hunt will never be more than a bit player

    Go and watch and learn you obviosely have no idea 

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    1 hour ago, Kent said:

    Go and watch and learn you obviosely have no idea 

    Don't need to watch and learn. I just happen to have a different option to the rest of you fan boys on this thread. 

     

    Your username suggests that maybe you ain't the best judge of footballing talent

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