godees 913 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said: Obviously there's confirmation bias at play but the top 13 in the betting market have all been nominated. The first without one is Bailey Scott at $81 which really should be $8001. Very rarely is there a Rankine like performance and especially later in a season when most of the standouts have been nominated. The impact of betting alone means the AFL won't let a genuine contender go without a nomination as the season rolls towards the 20 week mark. The most likely case is a chronically underrated key defender who doesn't get a lot of stats but these days key defenders are racking up intercept marks and possessions so it really won't be an issue. It's not the worlds best design award by any means but that doesn't mean the best player from those eligible won't get a nomination at some stage. The far greater concern is the impact the media and group think has on the award and the judges. Serong $1.50 and Anderson $4 despite nearly identical seasons is a great example of it. Agreed. I’m really surprised there is that much difference in the betting. Anderson has been very good and I’d argue, actually significantly better than Serong. Quote
deebug 1,754 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 We were robbed again? next year Rivers will get a better award when we win the flag? Quote
Demon Dynasty 17,165 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 10:17 AM, Deemania since 56 said: Heart in mouth, maybe with more experience and some excellent development and encouragement, we may have another Hardeman coming along. For me, Gary was the best CHB I have ever seen, and since then, we have had quite a few greats in that position. He is not a Neitz, but smaller like Hardeman and has that poise coming along, nicely. If he gets anywhere near Gary's status i won't be complaining 56 1 Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 11:44 PM, deebug said: We were robbed again? next year Rivers will get a better award when we win the flag? Will he still be eligible? I forget what the maximum amount of games you can play is. Quote
ding 5,126 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Pates said: Will he still be eligible? I forget what the maximum amount of games you can play is. To be eligible for nomination, the player must be aged 20 or under on 1 January that year, and have played ten or fewer AFL games as of the start of the season.[9] A player can only be nominated once per season; if a player is suspended during the season, he may be nominated, but will not be eligible to win the award.[ Dont care if he wins tbh. Kids gonna be a star anyway. 1 Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, ding said: To be eligible for nomination, the player must be aged 20 or under on 1 January that year, and have played ten or fewer AFL games as of the start of the season.[9] A player can only be nominated once per season; if a player is suspended during the season, he may be nominated, but will not be eligible to win the award.[ Dont care if he wins tbh. Kids gonna be a star anyway. Totally agree, he’s a really smooth user and while the winning goal may have not been exactly what he wanted his fist goal looked beautiful off the boot. 1 Quote
jnrmac 20,375 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 I guess the good news is rivers is still eligible next year... Unless we make finals this year 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 He's got something special this kid.... Again he stood up when the pressure was on. His contest then tackle in the last stopped their run on & helped turn the game back in our favour. He lifted when we needed him. 3 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 He was good again. I think he’s group of games warrants the rising star award this week ! ??? 2 Quote
Dr.D 1,771 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 looks a player. could fix his disposals up a bit just like the rest of the team but he brings much needed speed. 1 Quote
Leopold Bloom 406 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 His 14 touches v Dons is probably a shade short of what’s required. Lauchlan Sholl of Adelaide who got shafted last week picked up 19 possessions v Tigers. Quote
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 He's a beast this kid. 1 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 It's his defensive efforts that have won me over. He really seems to get those smothers, tackles, blocks, taps, etc in at the right time, and then to double it down his few disposals have been very clean and penetrating. 1 Quote
Dockett 32 1,239 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 To get the three young kids all playing some exciting footy in their first year, is a big take away from this year. 2 Quote
Elegt 872 Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 Riv is playing great footy. Would love him to put on a bit more muscle and hopefully get some midfield time next year 2 Quote
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 This is a long bow but Rivers has a game not a million miles away from the great Gavin Wanganeen. I'd like Rivers to develop his game along those lines. That much needed spring off half-back but the capacity to provide a meaningful presence in the midfield or up forward. Whether he gets nominated for a Rising Star is, for mine, probably neither here nor there. The football world recognise him as a talent. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 What about his tackle in the last 2 minutes. Stop another bombers centre clearances and spilled footy went to Melksham to Fritsch to kick the relieving goal. 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,676 Posted September 20, 2020 Posted September 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Elegt said: Riv is playing great footy. Would love him to put on a bit more muscle and hopefully get some midfield time next year Doesn’t need a lot of muscle, needs a tank. The 16 minute quarters have helped him. Needs to match his mate Jackson once they get back to Perth over summer Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 Did we sign Rivers up for a few extra years ? I’m offering him 5 year deal right now. Quote
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said: Did we sign Rivers up for a few extra years ? I’m offering him 5 year deal right now. No Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 Get the lad a pen. When I watch the finals, he is a player that can stand up in the heat of the action. Only about a dozen of our current group have the finals intensity. Rivers is one already. Quote
Lord Travis 10,819 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Was surprised Jackson won best young player ahead of Rivers. Jacko might have a higher ceiling, but Rivers clearly performed better this season. West Coast apparently keen on luring Rivers back to WA in the coming years. We’ll need to lock him away! Edited October 2, 2020 by Lord Travis 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,548 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 Yeah no doubt WC will be into him. Give the boy a long contract please. Will be the best player out of he, Kozi and Jackson. Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,548 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord Travis said: Was surprised Jackson won best young player ahead of Rivers. Jacko might have a higher ceiling, but Rivers clearly performed better this season. I was surprised too. Jackson played 3 less games and only played well against the bottom 4 sides. Rivers played a brilliant game against GWS in a mini elimination prime time Saturday night game, including kicking the sealer. Edited October 2, 2020 by Bring-Back-Powell 3 Quote
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