POSTGAME: Rd 14 vs St. Kilda

[binman 44,533]

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Viney gets very, very, close to the protected zone on Kent's kick. I freaked out, I must admit.

Me too. Times 1000.

There have been at least 4 paid against this year that are no different.

If in an alternative universe i was a mad saints fans and regularly posted on a footy forum under the name namnib and a Paul Callery avatar i'd be banging on that fellow posters should be worried about the clear 50 we weren't paid not the goal/point by the player who if we we had any clue about recruiting should be in our team.

[sue 9,195]

The enforcement of the protected zone is a farce.  In every game I’ve watched there are several infringements ignored.  The rule needs a major rethink.  Very often the offending player poses no threat to the player with the ball. But the penalty is enormous. 

Edited August 31, 2020 by sue

[Pates 9,675]

47 minutes ago, old dee said:

They don’t waltz out with Spargo there PSD? He is close to the worst tackler in the team.

I’d be watching the last 5min again then if I were you, he laid some of the most important tackles of the team. Far more than AvB and Hannan did who are also there to pressure the opposition. 

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

Rewatching the game:

Hannan out.  AVB and Jones on notice.

Kozzie did better than i gave him credit for, although he had a real chance to do much better.  Brown, Wagner (save his first pickup) were good inclusions.

Tommo and Spargo both ok.  OMac did well most of the night, just got caught out on that one lead.

Max will only get better for the run

we were very poor disposing of the ball and very lucky to win. Our defensive pressure dropped off in Q2, but came back, luckily.

If that is one of the best midfields in the comp, I’m your mothers brother Robert.  They were hopeless in the middle, thrashed around the ball.  Only a few late moments to admire.  Gotta sort this out.

[Jaded No More 68,975]

3 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

That loss to the Cats that @Delusional demon 82 referred to above was the most devastating H&A loss I can recall - it gutted me.

If Kent had kicked the sealer on Saturday night after a 50 I think that would have topped it.

I will never forget that loss. I was in China on a work trip and it was monsoon season. I watched on my iPad while the windows of the hotel shook. I also ate something dodgy during the game and was violently ill for the following 24 hours, which was fitting to how I felt about that game. 

[Moonshadow 17,678]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Me too. Times 1000.

There have been at least 4 paid against this year that are no different.

If in an alternative universe i was a mad saints fans and regularly posted on a footy forum under the name namnib and a Paul Callery avatar i'd be banging on that fellow posters should be worried about the clear 50 we weren't paid not the goal/point by the player who if we we had any clue about recruiting should be in our team.

The AFL has said that umpires must give opponents some time to leave the protected area. Listening to the umps mics, they usually say "leave the area" at least twice before paying a 50. Viney was next to his opponent in the zone when the mark was taken and followed him away

Kent played on immediately, which may also remove the protection zone

But as we all know, it's a lucky dip with umpiring decisions.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

19 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I will never forget that loss. I was in China on a work trip and it was monsoon season. I watched on my iPad while the windows of the hotel shook. I also ate something dodgy during the game and was violently ill for the following 24 hours, which was fitting to how I felt about that game. 

There was a smudge on my screen covering the ‘g’ when I first read this and I thought you’d eaten something doggy. You still may have actually. 

[Jaded No More 68,975]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

There was a smudge on my screen covering the ‘g’ when I first read this and I thought you’d eaten something doggy. You still may have actually. 

At least it wasn’t a bat... I think

Even tho I am not a vegetarian, when I arrive in China I turn into one instantly. Have heard too many horror stories about the “meat”. 

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

A broad few questions for those upset that we lost the midfield.

Is it ok to lose clearances, and win the game?

Is it ok to lose clearances from time to time throughout the season ever?

Does it mean that there are systemic problems? 

Is it meaningful from a belief, structure, effort perspective, that we lost the midfield and won the game?

Signed

Perplexed. 

 

[hardtack 10,861]

Nice to see that our sponsors are across what the club is up to ???
 

[sue 9,195]

2 wins against C’wood makes a great year. But we shouldn’t have let them get so close the second time. 

[monoccular 17,642]

6 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Viney gets very, very, close to the protected zone on Kent's kick. I freaked out, I must admit.

I will take another look at it. 
Who actually knows what the protected zone is in a practical sense?

So inconsistently adjudicated. 
Needs revision and some common sense, which would be very novel on the part of AFL. 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

5 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I will take another look at it. 
Who actually knows what the protected zone is in a practical sense?

So inconsistently adjudicated. 
Needs revision and some common sense, which would be very novel on the part of AFL. 

Hit it on the head right there mono!

Who actually knows the interpretation this week or ..... by this.... or that umpire.

I can live with rules (most times) . What I can't live with with is inconsistency.

[jnrmac 20,276]

4 hours ago, sue said:

The enforcement of the protected zone is a farce.  In every game I’ve watched there are several infringements ignored.  The rule needs a major rethink.  Very often the offending player poses no threat to the player with the ball. But the penalty is enormous. 

It's a lottery whether it gets paid or not. You'll see 4 or 5 examples of it and then 1 will be plucked out at an inappropriate time

But players need to be aware (Melksham particularly) and don't run the gauntlet

[jnrmac 20,276]

3 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Rewatching the game:

Hannan out.  AVB and Jones on notice.

Kozzie did better than i gave him credit for, although he had a real chance to do much better.  Brown, Wagner (save his first pickup) were good inclusions.

Tommo and Spargo both ok.  OMac did well most of the night, just got caught out on that one lead.

Max will only get better for the run

we were very poor disposing of the ball and very lucky to win. Our defensive pressure dropped off in Q2, but came back, luckily.

If that is one of the best midfields in the comp, I’m your mothers brother Robert.  They were hopeless in the middle, thrashed around the ball.  Only a few late moments to admire.  Gotta sort this out.

Seriously watch again. His 2nd efforts opponent on several occasions was terrible. He has the slowest reaction time of anyone in the team.

[binman 44,533]

5 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Seriously watch again. His 2nd efforts opponent on several occasions was terrible. He has the slowest reaction time of anyone in the team.

You want him to watch the game a third time to confirm your confirmation bias?

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

12 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Seriously watch again. His 2nd efforts opponent on several occasions was terrible. He has the slowest reaction time of anyone in the team.

He was last man on the goal line to mark.  He took the ball and distributed it well through half back.  He was in good position and his skills were good in general.  He was often first man Jon defensive chains, and didn’t get caught or turn it over badly.  Which second efforts concern you?  I saw him zoning and positioning himself off the key backs.  Anyway, each to their own.  He may not have a matchup vs Sydney.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,444]

On 8/30/2020 at 9:55 PM, Ethan Tremblay said:

Teachers use to tell me I had Aspergers, I always thought they were calling me an AssBurger though. 

 

[dee-tox 4,835]

6 hours ago, old dee said:

They don’t waltz out with Spargo there PSD? He is close to the worst tackler in the team.

Seriously? He's one of those whose tackles at least stick. His defensive pressure has been good since coming back into the team. Those two tackles he laid in the final 60 seconds were superb. 

[Beetle 4,710]

5 hours ago, Jaded said:

At least it wasn’t a bat... I think

Even tho I am not a vegetarian, when I arrive in China I turn into one instantly. Have heard too many horror stories about the “meat”. 

That’s why I only eat dim sims. Can’t go wrong, always know exactly what you’re getting.

Edited August 31, 2020 by Beetle

[hardtack 10,861]

5 hours ago, Jaded said:

At least it wasn’t a bat... I think

Even tho I am not a vegetarian, when I arrive in China I turn into one instantly. Have heard too many horror stories about the “meat”. 

I love the food in China! So many choices and different styles of cuisine that we never get to see here. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

15 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Viney gets very, very, close to the protected zone on Kent's kick. I freaked out, I must admit.

Steele was right next to him.

Calm down.

 

[old55 23,834]

Watched the last 2 minutes again. Dean Kent got 2 of his 9 disposals in the last minute. Maybe the zenith of his career will be that goal he kicked for us in Perth in 2018.

Was seen barracking hard against us vs North in the last round of 2019, he either hates us or had a wager on the game ...

[titan_uranus 25,176]

3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Steele was right next to him.

Calm down.

 

He's clearly trying to impact Kent's kick though, hence why I freaked out at the time.

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

And just quietly no wonder Freo are struggling. Last year they lost Langdon and Brad Hill. The year before Lachie Neale. That is a lot of talent to walk out of the place.