If the Blues are genuinely paying this bloke 900k per year, he and Jack Martin will combine for around 2 million dollars per season. 

incredible stuff considering they're not key position players 

good players but i feel like they're eating too big a slice of the salary cap for the output they bring. 

On 8/12/2020 at 12:44 PM, Win4theAges said:

Didn't Papley want $800-900k from Carlton last year?

He's not worth that money. We are near our cap and got players wanting new contracts.

He'll go to a club who don't give a toss about their payment structure and their future list mangement like Ess or Carlton.

And what do you know Zac has decided to go to Carlton.???

That's a real surprise.?

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Tom Browne saying he's pretty much a done deal to Carlton.

Good get for them.

They got there man Carlton. ???

Won’t make any difference to Carlton at all. One player won’t cover a massive amount of issues all over the ground. They are a seriously crap club. 

1 hour ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

If the Blues are genuinely paying this bloke 900k per year, he and Jack Martin will combine for around 2 million dollars per season. 

incredible stuff considering they're not key position players 

good players but i feel like they're eating too big a slice of the salary cap for the output they bring. 

Plus they are paying way overs for McGovern as well. Lot of outlay for not much between the 3 of them. 

5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Officially exploring Free Agency.  Linked to North and Carlton.

dashing-giant-to-explore-free-agency

 

Edit:  Oops, didn't see the new thread...

I can't believe we are not linked to him. He's exactly what we need.

Going by the info being put out, it sounds like Norf offered more but he's going to Carlton anyway.

Another miss for Norf is another win for everyone else, even if he's off to the VISY Blues.

Tom Morris just mentioned at half time that Carlton are paying around the 850 to 900k for Williams ??

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Tom Morris just mentioned at half time that Carlton are paying around the 850 to 900k for Williams ??

Hopefully that leaves Saad to us then. They’ve been linked to him too. I can’t see them fitting him in, but it is Carlton, he can get a role promoting cardboard for a million on the side 

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

I can't believe we are not linked to him. He's exactly what we need.

If the market is willing to pay massive overs, you don't compete with the market like that for a speedy half back flanker. Would be very dumb list management.

That's the thing about free agency. the price of players gets so inflated. i don't think it's worth chasing a big money free agent unless you feel it's the last piece of the puzzle, or it's someone you can build around. someone like Williams is not worth 900k for the role he plays. i'd argue Saad can be equally as damaging and we won't be paying him that much if he comes. 

40 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Tom Morris just mentioned at half time that Carlton are paying around the 850 to 900k for Williams ??

While I think he is a very good player and will be good for Carlton that is crazy money if true. I think he mentioned that GWS’s offer was 700 - 750k per year, they must have a lot of players on minimum wages.

39 minutes ago, trout said:

While I think he is a very good player and will be good for Carlton that is crazy money if true. I think he mentioned that GWS’s offer was 700 - 750k per year, they must have a lot of players on minimum wages.

He's not that good. Glad he chose Carlton and they can have him. If money is correct they will have more problems than fixes. Players will not be happy giving a back flanker who is injury prone and is not a star that sort of cash. Wait for the fall out from Carlton players.

Query with Zac Williams is availability not performance.

Has only once had back to back 22 game seasons and only 3 22 + game seasons.

11, 8, 12, 22, 23, 2, 24, 11*

Whereas Adam Saad

16, 10, 22, 22. 22., 17*

*17 game home and away season.

If you're paying Zac big $ for 5 years your fingers are crossed that he'll be on the park consistently. High reward if he is. Cap risk if he's sitting in the stands.

 

Williams officially announced Carlton as his club of choice. end thread. 

positive news is that it means we are more likely to get Saad then. 

13 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Williams officially announced Carlton as his club of choice. end thread. 

positive news is that it means we are more likely to get Saad then. 

Assuming he leaves and we can make a deal with Essendon. 

39 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Williams officially announced Carlton as his club of choice. end thread. 

positive news is that it means we are more likely to get Saad then. 

saad said to be off to the tigers

7 hours ago, Docs Demons said:

He's not that good. Glad he chose Carlton and they can have him. If money is correct they will have more problems than fixes. Players will not be happy giving a back flanker who is injury prone and is not a star that sort of cash. Wait for the fall out from Carlton players.

Yeah agree, Gary Lyon was very quick to mention that there young key position players would be wanting more than him on their next contracts.

Like what North are doing, by going hard for free agents with over the top offers, it forces other clubs to increase theres beyond the reasonable; impacting their list management. Carlton will now be vulnerable to raids on their younger players.

With players like McGovern, Martin and Williams on massive contracts how are they going to keep their good young players. Let's hope they can't.

McKay OOC next year.

What's potentially missing from this is the ongoing/long term impact from Covid in 2021.

It's not clear things will be back to normal next year, at all.

So what happens if clubs aren't getting gate receipts. Where is the income coming from to fund these contracts, and what does it potentially mean for staffing football departments and ancillary functions of clubs.

We could be at a point of commencing season 2021 across QLD, Radelaide and WC, again.

Interesting times ahead.

I love it how if we got Williams he would've been a gun back flanker that offers speed and foot skills but because we didn't he is definitely not worth that amount of money and isn't that good. lol

4 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

I love it how if we got Williams he would've been a gun back flanker that offers speed and foot skills but because we didn't he is definitely not worth that amount of money and isn't that good. lol

I'd be filthy at the club if we had coughed up that much coin for him. Its not so much that he isn't good, because he is a great footballer, but no way in hell is he worth that money.

Carlton are a laughing stock.

He’s nominated Carlton as his club of choice, so he’s no longer of direct relevance to the MFC recruiting drive. 

Shipping this thread off to the Melbourne Demons Board where it will stay unless the situation changes.