POSTGAME: Rd 11 vs North Melbourne

[Brownie 5,988]

50 minutes ago, DSP said:

Another strong finish by the boys. % could be the make or break come finals time considering the snake and ladders that is 2020.

I hope Weeds continues the upward curve, along with Tracca.

There needs to be some sort of investigation about the umpiring though. Bloody horrible.

Norf won the free kicks 19 vs 13 while losing by 10 goals.

2 good wins where we've run the game out really well.

Can we do it when we're playing the better sides and the pressure is really on?

Looking forward to the pies game now.

[DeeZee 7,445]

It’s the best crop of youngsters we’ve had in a while.

Kozzie, Jackson, Rivers, Sparrow,Lockhart, Spargo.

Gives the group real energy, and some potential stars amongst that lot.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

Fantastic Football Dees really shoved it deep and hard down where the sun don't shine for the Roos.

Fortress Adelaide to the fore, if we can't play at the G get all our home games at the Oval.

We are dead set specials in Adelaide.

No sign of the Woo hoo man he's as mysterious as Jack the Ripper.

Gussy welcome back, Lever on another level, Weed just doing Weed things, Action growing into a reliable performer.

Ball movement was brilliant in parts tonight but North are weak as a prolapsed butt hole.

Jonesy was good tonight, Spargs was surprisingly decent tonight, pat on the back keep it up.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Win4theAges

[nosoupforme 3,085]

Petracca , Oliver , Brayshaw , Action Jackson  and TMac They dominated the middle after quarter time. 12 goals 10 behinds to  2G 3 B 

22 shots at goals to 5  after quarter time. it was one way traffic . It was a demolition !  They always seem to match up well however not this time.  FINALLY.

 

[Gunna’s 2,104]

Will the afl fixture us at the Adelaide Oval again? 
I feel we play the ground pretty well, like marvel vs mcg under Goodwin. We were pantsed at the Gabba.  Therefor I’m guessing our remaining games will be at Optus and Gabba. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,305]

1 hour ago, brendan said:

Don’t forget pies play in Adelaide Tuesday then fly to Brisbane to play us with 4 days break while we get a decent 1 now so big chance to roll them 

Plus without De Goey, Howe, Treloar and probably Pendlebury we really should out them away if we're fair dinkum

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

Trac, Clarrie, Viney & Gus.

Clarrie in the middle is a non-negotiable, Trac is about to become our premier mid (if he hasn't become so already) and Gus has shown that whilst talented in the middle, is lost elsewhere.

Which begs the question, what do we do with the one extra we have? Where do we play Jack?

 

[Adam The God 30,421]

45 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

I see a solution, drop Harmes and keep one of Spargo, Sparrow, Hannan or Rivers consistently in the side and rotate Brayshaw and Viney through the middle with Trac and Oliver. Harmes has been incredibly poor and ill disciplined for basicalyl the entire season. Viney has been brilliant, shouldn't be a question over his spot.

There should be if his inclusion makes us a less effective team. Viney should take forward stoppages and that's about it. Forwardline the rest of the time or when Gus is resting on the bench. 

1 hour ago, MurDoc516 said:

We losts the clearences and got decimated in the hitouts... we are getting way too excited here over beating a team that nearly turned it over more than Adelaide did.

I really don't see how Gawn or Viney not staying in the midfield makes us better. I think we just need to be smarter with the overall balance in the team. Do we need Vanders, Harmes(clearly way out of form) and Jones in the side? 3 guys who wants to be in the thick off it when Viney is better than all 3 of them and we could do with some more outside run and better ball users being brought in. Now if that comes from within or from trade/draft that's another story.

Our midfield destroyed them in effective clearances and then our mids got involved around the crowd. Is there really much more to say? 2017 and 2018 without Viney, Gus is A grade, with him, he's nowhere. I think Gus is a better, more damaging player than Jack. There's three and a half seasons of evidence really...

[titan_uranus 25,045]

OK everyone. Put the lid back on.

North was absolutely abysmal tonight. D-grade tripe. We've won two games and absolutely done what we needed to do (win and build percentage), but our opposition both weeks was horrendous.

Yes, we ran all over them in the last. They were down to two on the bench and had two players carrying corks.

Yes, Brayshaw looked better today than previously. But, again, the opposition was shocking. I don't necessarily agree that this is definitive evidence that we're "better" with Gus in the middle instead of Viney.

Now, with that out of the way, let's talk positives.

Oliver and Petracca have led from the front the past fortnight. Something's clicked for Clarry and he's now bursting from stoppages and releasing others with long, forward handpasses. That, as much as anything, has made us more dynamic through the middle.

Weideman's confidence is growing. He's commanding the ball and he's bringing it to ground when he can't mark it. If he'd kicked those early ones he missed (he should have kicked all of them), his confidence would have gone through the roof. Really impressive stuff, IMO.

Jackson's coming along faster than I expected him to. His spread from stoppages is really valuable. He's so fast and agile for someone his size. Can't wait to get some more muscle onto his frame so he can compete in the ruck and in the air more.

Pickett was great today IMO. He does so much right: creating space, releasing others, pressure. Spargo deserves all the credit he's getting: if he can maintain this form, he really adds to our forward line.

Lever was fantastic again. Yes, he peeled off in the third and we conceded a goal as a result, but it was his willingness and ability to zone off and intercept that stopped North getting it past the middle of the ground from quarter time onwards. He and May are working better together by the week.

And we did this all with passengers: Harmes, Jones, Sparrow and Melksham all struggled, and I personally thought TMac was way off it, his tackles notwithstanding. 

The season is set up for us now. Our next two games are against sides right around us on the ladder. If we're competing for a top 8 spot, it's against Collingwood and the Dogs. Great to pocket these two wins, and percentage, and hopefully some confidence, but the true test is yet to come.

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

Oliver  -   17 k   14 h   31 dis    I goal 

Petracca  -  13 k   16 h   29 dis   1 goal

Brayshaw -  17 k    12 h    29 dis   1 goal

Ripped through the heart of North Melbourne. Awesome midfield display. Will watch the Brownlow count for Round 11 results with pleasure.?

 

[Sigil 1,001]

34 minutes ago, AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey said:

I think our best setup is players like Viney and Tmac taking more of a backseat role within the team. Not to underplay the importance of both, Viney has been phenomenal through the middle of the ground this year and Tmac has proved tonight that he's better used up the field. Viney's spot in the side takes away from the output of Brayshaw, who in my opinion, is a more damaging player with ball in hand. We need to move Viney forward. His tackling pressure is fantastic, has a good goal sense and can chop out in the middle when needed. TMAC needs to be played further up the field, as a forward flank/CHF between the arcs. He offers a great bail out kick and lead up and is actually quite a good field kick - leave Weideman and Jackson further forward as our main targets. Sacrifices have to be made for success and I think both Viney and Tmac can adapt their roles for the betterment of the team whilst still providing crucial elements to our output. Great win tonight regardless and go stick that up ya spargo haters. Go Dees !!

You could be wrong. But I enjoyed reading that paragraph and nodded along.

Thanks!

[Demonland 73,163]

 

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

1 hour ago, Stevienic23 said:

Exactly right. That was like facing a bowling machine at 70mph dishing up half volleys...you're bound to look good. Two '8 point' games coming up with teams around us. We'll be judged on those games not these soft kills. That said, some good form coming in is always welcomed.

That said, i am happy. I thought we would lose 1 of them

So we did the job well

[titan_uranus 25,045]

Pop the champagne: we're 9th on the ladder, the highest we've been since 2018!

[dl4e 5,851]

We have just beaten 2 very poor sides with North having a lot of injuries. We play a depleted filth next and should win that but I will start to take notice if we can beat the dogs. North were crap so I can't take anything from that victory except weeds 1st half and Brayshaw who must play in the middle.

[Nelo 813]

Great win. Should have been 100 points but I’ll take it. Let’s wait for Garry Lyon’s negative comments tomorrow morning on SEN. 

[Adam The God 30,421]

1 hour ago, binman said:

Has someone hacked you account A F?  

Gawn, if fit should come back? Should?

if Viney is going to play again? if?

I know Goodwin has made some bewildering selection decisions this year, but not selecting his AA captain and vice captain would be brilliantly surreal!

There's a difference between what will happen and what should, mate. I'd like to see how our mids go again without Max. Goldstein was probably the best ruck in the competition coming in to tonight and he had little to no influence.

[Bay Riffin 1,480]

2 hours ago, GCDee said:

Norf fans would be ropeable they essentially traded him away for the most dubious first round pick in ever between the father sons, academy picks and the fact there is no footy being played because of COVID 

 

this was a significant game because they have our first rounder. If we finish bottom 3 they get a massive gift, but if we win just 3-4 more game I beleive they will finish with a pick 15+ due to academy picks. It may not seem so silly after all. but we need to keep winning !!

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

58 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Trac, Clarrie, Viney & Gus.

Clarrie in the middle is a non-negotiable, Trac is about to become our premier mid (if he hasn't become so already) and Gus has shown that whilst talented in the middle, is lost elsewhere.

Which begs the question, what do we do with the one extra we have? Where do we play Jack?

 

Simples... Out ANB in Viney to play a Forward/Mid role....in that order.

[Elegt 872]

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

OK everyone. Put the lid back on.

North was absolutely abysmal tonight. D-grade tripe. We've won two games and absolutely done what we needed to do (win and build percentage), but our opposition both weeks was horrendous.

Yes, we ran all over them in the last. They were down to two on the bench and had two players carrying corks.

Yes, Brayshaw looked better today than previously. But, again, the opposition was shocking. I don't necessarily agree that this is definitive evidence that we're "better" with Gus in the middle instead of Viney.

Now, with that out of the way, let's talk positives.

Oliver and Petracca have led from the front the past fortnight. Something's clicked for Clarry and he's now bursting from stoppages and releasing others with long, forward handpasses. That, as much as anything, has made us more dynamic through the middle.

Weideman's confidence is growing. He's commanding the ball and he's bringing it to ground when he can't mark it. If he'd kicked those early ones he missed (he should have kicked all of them), his confidence would have gone through the roof. Really impressive stuff, IMO.

Jackson's coming along faster than I expected him to. His spread from stoppages is really valuable. He's so fast and agile for someone his size. Can't wait to get some more muscle onto his frame so he can compete in the ruck and in the air more.

Pickett was great today IMO. He does so much right: creating space, releasing others, pressure. Spargo deserves all the credit he's getting: if he can maintain this form, he really adds to our forward line.

Lever was fantastic again. Yes, he peeled off in the third and we conceded a goal as a result, but it was his willingness and ability to zone off and intercept that stopped North getting it past the middle of the ground from quarter time onwards. He and May are working better together by the week.

And we did this all with passengers: Harmes, Jones, Sparrow and Melksham all struggled, and I personally thought TMac was way off it, his tackles notwithstanding. 

The season is set up for us now. Our next two games are against sides right around us on the ladder. If we're competing for a top 8 spot, it's against Collingwood and the Dogs. Great to pocket these two wins, and percentage, and hopefully some confidence, but the true test is yet to come.

this is spot on mate

[MurDoc516 1,529]

North Melb : 13
Melb: 2

1. against Harmes soft punch to thigh of north player
2. against Oliver holding to north no.14
3. against Harmes for chop of arms to Larky
4. against Weideman for high contact on north player who lead with his head
5. against Spargo for not looking at ball and attempting to spoil
6. out on the full by north
7. against Hibberd for high contact (more of a sheperd off the ball than anything)
8. against Tomlinson for holding Larky
9. against VanderBerg for running across the mark
10. against Oliver for a push in the back (literally a hip on shoulder in the contest) on North no. 14
11. against north no. 35 for holding the ball
12. against Pickett for holding the man (the man was actually in possesion of the ball?) to North no. 16
13. out on the full by melbourne
14. against Harmes for high contact on Goldstein who ducked to shrug the tackle.
15. against Salem for high contact on north no. 44

1st qtr free kick count btw. Highlighted our free kicks

[Earl Hood 6,101]

1 hour ago, Brownie said:

Norf won the free kicks 19 vs 13 while losing by 10 goals.

2 good wins where we've run the game out really well.

Can we do it when we're playing the better sides and the pressure is really on?

Looking forward to the pies game now.

I love modern umpiring. Last week Max had a serial pest charging into him repeatedly off the contest but that’s OK. Tonight Harmes takes a Mark with an opposition player coming front on at him. He throws a a clenched fist at the players thigh to let him know he didn’t appreciate the attention but wait that is a free kick! A north player runs back with the flight of the ball and gets collected, not high but that again is a free? I could go on about the tackles that start correctly but the player ducks their head so an arm goes over their head and that is a high tackle, then you get Kossie running onto a loose ball only to be obviously retarded right in front of the umpire but that is play on. I no longer know what the rules of the game are. 

[Bay Riffin 1,480]

People are right to put things into perspective. the true test is yet to come but let me say this. 

I want to put things into another perspective. for so many years I've seen us capitulate to North and experience gut wrenching losses, sometimes when I thought we were definitely the best team but alas not on the scoreboard. We've had time when we had players down, critical umpiring decisions against us etc culminating in heart breaking losses.Time and time again.

Yes North were men down tonight for the last quarter but we've had our fair share of bad luck against this side in close games culminating in a ridiculous run of losses. Tonight it went our way injury wise and we beat them emphatically. 

We deserve to celebrate the win. God knows we absolutely deserve it. 

 

Edited August 9, 2020 by Bay Riffin

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

I'm no fan of Carlton, but gee, the umpires stitched them up with the inconsistent calling of HTB. A Carlton player was wrapped up by Darling the same second he took possession of the ball with it held to his chest - HTB -  West Coast goal. A Carlton player was slung around like a rag doll (shades of ANB) and thrown to the ground while the ball spilled out - play on. 

Carlton players want clarification on the rule. With so many clubs and fans confused and upset, something needs to be done about this shocking state of affairs.

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

Good win. It’s a concern that our diet consists exclusively of low-hanging fruit, but at least we’re not going hungry, I guess.